Whats the law on dog hunting

[strongriverducker1]

I don't believe in the ticket, until you have hunted with a pack on a buck running full speed sometime you just cant cut them all off. I have seen them go 5 miles in a day on these big tracts of land. Problem is as they try to come home they jump another deer and then own your land. Same as someones dog coming to your house because your dog is in heat, you would be pissed if they held your dog and charged you. Now if they turn loose on your place thats another problem but doing a fine that is uncalled for. I love still hunting just like y'all but love to run the dogs.

[legends of the lower mars]

Just remember, whatever you do, it's not the dogs fault.

Well said my friend!

[greenheadgrimreaper]

I used to run dogs as a kid with my dad and nearly everyone else in Winston/Neshoba/Kemper county. Still hunting slowly made its way in as the preferred way to hunt, but there are still a few pockets of dog hunters here and there. With that being said, for years I would defend dog hunters and their actions. Partly because of my disdain for the hardcore still hunters and their constant bitching and moaning for peace and quiet in the woods thinking it should all belong to them. Partly because I was a kid and dog hunting had a sentimental spot in my brain for memories of the past, and partly because I hadn't experienced dogs running on my land.

After living in the place I was at last year and hunting the land, all I can say is dog hunters are going to take care of their own heritage. They are their own worst enemy, and the walker hound breed had better hope coon hunting makes a big comeback because they are destined to be a rare lapdog breed.

Never in my life have I experienced such complete and total disrespect and disregard for private landowners and their RIGHTS. What dog hunters have obviously forgotten, is their "hunting" is a privilege, not a right. In contrast the private landowner, who by sheer statistical measures is probably not as sentimental to hunting as a whole as I am, has a Constitutional Right that will trump a dog hunter's heritage and sport. When those in the majority- those who are neither for or against hunting- start getting pissed...well then, you had better believe mamma is going to be listening and do something about it.

The way those dogs were let out in September and ran until they were no longer needed is sickening. There would be dead dogs, sick dogs, starving dogs- it got old, quick. And as bad as PETA and pop culture would love for it to be so- I think it is clear that the majority of hunters are animal lovers in every sense of the word. Just look at this thread- all sorts of folks sticking up for the well-being of the dogs. We just like to kill and eat our own food.

I surely hate to see any hunting or fishing heritage go down in the books as history, especially one that I have such special ties to as dog hunting. I'd hate to think of the look on my old man's face if he were alive and someone told him and those other fine men who were fine sportsmen, who enjoyed the chase, who enjoyed the dogs running moreso than the deer getting killed, that dog hunting had been banned. In a sense it was just like quail hunting and the dogs used for it- the quail were a means to an end in order to experience the thrill of the dog, a critter that mankind is very obviously fascinated with.

So even though I am in the minority and right there with dog hunters in the big picture, I am in the majority as far as the hunting and fishing community goes when I say I do not dog hunt for deer. And the argument of, "Oh, anti's love to see this (in-fighting), ya'll are just whittlin' away at ALL of our hunting priveledges when you turn against us!"- is stupid and ludicrous. It is in the majority's best interest to purge ourselves of issues and "outdoorsmen" who are detrimental to the future of hunting and fishing. And from what I experienced first hand, if dog hunters do not get their issues sorted out, it might be in the best interest of the outdoor community to not so much take aim at banning the sport, but at the very least "watch it burn" by withholding support for it when it does come up to the chopping block. Make no mistake- dog hunting will see judgment day and soon.

P.S. One thing I have noticed when this topic comes up is when anyone comes up with a solution (like the $100) idea, that dog hunters always have some reason as to why it won't work. Ya'll had better learn some give and take, and come up with your own ideas and solutions to police yourselves because someone else going to do it for you. The solutions dog hunters are currently using are not working.

[cagoodwn]

I used to run dogs as a kid with my dad and nearly everyone else in Winston/Neshoba/Kemper county. Still hunting slowly made its way in as the preferred way to hunt, but there are still a few pockets of dog hunters here and there. With that being said, for years I would defend dog hunters and their actions. Partly because of my disdain for the hardcore still hunters and their constant bitching and moaning for peace and quiet in the woods thinking it should all belong to them. Partly because I was a kid and dog hunting had a sentimental spot in my brain for memories of the past, and partly because I hadn't experienced dogs running on my land.

After living in the place I was at last year and hunting the land, all I can say is dog hunters are going to take care of their own heritage. They are their own worst enemy, and the walker hound breed had better hope coon hunting makes a big comeback because they are destined to be a rare lapdog breed.

Never in my life have I experienced such complete and total disrespect and disregard for private landowners and their RIGHTS. What dog hunters have obviously forgotten, is their "hunting" is a privilege, not a right. In contrast the private landowner, who by sheer statistical measures is probably not as sentimental to hunting as a whole as I am, has a Constitutional Right that will trump a dog hunter's heritage and sport. When those in the majority- those who are neither for or against hunting- start getting pissed...well then, you had better believe mamma is going to be listening and do something about it.

The way those dogs were let out in September and ran until they were no longer needed is sickening. There would be dead dogs, sick dogs, starving dogs- it got old, quick. And as bad as PETA and pop culture would love for it to be so- I think it is clear that the majority of hunters are animal lovers in every sense of the word. Just look at this thread- all sorts of folks sticking up for the well-being of the dogs. We just like to kill and eat our own food.

I surely hate to see any hunting or fishing heritage go down in the books as history, especially one that I have such special ties to as dog hunting. I'd hate to think of the look on my old man's face if he were alive and someone told him and those other fine men who were fine sportsmen, who enjoyed the chase, who enjoyed the dogs running moreso than the deer getting killed, that dog hunting had been banned. In a sense it was just like quail hunting and the dogs used for it- the quail were a means to an end in order to experience the thrill of the dog, a critter that mankind is very obviously fascinated with.

So even though I am in the minority and right there with dog hunters in the big picture, I am in the majority as far as the hunting and fishing community goes when I say I do not dog hunt for deer. And the argument of, "Oh, anti's love to see this (in-fighting), ya'll are just whittlin' away at ALL of our hunting priveledges when you turn against us!"- is stupid and ludicrous. It is in the majority's best interest to purge ourselves of issues and "outdoorsmen" who are detrimental to the future of hunting and fishing. And from what I experienced first hand, if dog hunters do not get their issues sorted out, it might be in the best interest of the outdoor community to not so much take aim at banning the sport, but at the very least "watch it burn" by withholding support for it when it does come up to the chopping block. Make no mistake- dog hunting will see judgment day and soon.

P.S. One thing I have noticed when this topic comes up is when anyone comes up with a solution (like the $100) idea, that dog hunters always have some reason as to why it won't work. Ya'll had better learn some give and take, and come up with your own ideas and solutions to police yourselves because someone else going to do it for you. The solutions dog hunters are currently using are not working.

What he said. I've never met a respectful dog hunter.

[greenheadgrimreaper]

I never said I have never met a respectful dog hunter. In fact, that is why is was so hard to come to grips with the fact that maybe dog hunting as a whole isn't how I remembered it as a kid- those men were respectful dog hunters who never had any trouble. But then again dog hunting was huge back then and we ran on thousands of acres of continuous blocks of land.

[strongriverducker1]

Yes it is sad that a few bad apples ruin the whole bunch. But where we hunt the dog hunters feel the same about the still hunters that park on top of you on public land and steal your stands and stuff out of the truck and shoot a dog that is going through the woods. We hunt the large tracts and don't run private land on purpose, but sometimes the dogs do go that way after a deer . But I have never had a still hunter complain when they killed a buck in front of a dog.

[jdbuckshot]

We hunt the large tracts and don't run private land on purpose, but sometimes the dogs do go that way after a deer . But I have never had a still hunter complain when they killed a buck in front of a dog.

I'm pretty sure there are alot more complaints about your dog not purposfully trespassing than there are private land owners congratulating your dog for doing his job.

if you cant control your dog from running on another mans land, keep him in the box. you don't pay for the land, the taxes, the upkeep..... then why should your dog get to run on it. i mean its another Mans property that you are dealing with here.

any dog hunter who's dogs go onto another mans land with out permission is being DISRESPECTFULL -

[Rowdy53103]

^ what he said

I am sick of deer dogs....ban it

[strongriverducker1]

That's the funniest thing I have have heard. How do you tell an animal a mile away what to do. Like I said there are people who do it wrong, but why hang the good guys out to dry.

[jdbuckshot]

That's the funniest thing I have have heard. How do you tell an animal a mile away what to do. Like I said there are people who do it wrong, but why hang the good guys out to dry.

Thats the exact point i'm making.

Its not the dogs that landowners are mad at, its the IRRESPONSIBLE DOG OWNERS who let there dogs out to run where ever they wish. If a man owns land and doesn't want cows on his land is he required to put up a fence? no he's not.

if you can't control the dogs, leave them in the box.

[ScottyLee]

it should be required just like on the hnf. that all deer dogs etc, have the gps collars... it will help insure that the hunters do their dangdest to pick up their dogs, and will also help with the problem of dogs never getting picked or getting picked up 2 weeks later... etc... the collar rule and the permit for each dog has really helped the situation there, no doubt about it.

[stang67]

but why hang the good guys out to dry.

Because you aren't doing a good enough job of policing your own. It's cliche to say the good shouldn't suffer with the bad, but we all know that that is the way life and society works.

It pains me to condemn the way anyone chooses to enjoy hunting season. However, in this case, too many are enjoying it carelessly, at the expense of the enjoyment of others. It can't continue. Last season changed my mind on the topic -- for good.

[quackerkiller]

An example of dog hunters being disrespectul to our property is this....... The club which has around 10,000 acres, that I have been in the past 3 years, choose to turns their dogs loose about 300 yards from our property line........ The setup has road frontage, a large creek on the opposite side, and 13 year old cutover on the other end..... Which leaves a narrow strip, or funnel should I say, that leads to the cutover....... EVERY time they turn out the dogs run tight to the creek straight up the middle of our property.... EVERY TIME..... So why is it that if you politely discuss the problem with the hunters, and the dogs read the script ( figuratively speaking) everytime, why do they continue to do it over and over? They will have the whole road lined up "lookin/listening for the dogs"...... If that's right of them and isnt disrespectful, I'll kiss your booty! Not to mention the club president set a hog trap 50 yards from one of my treestands(ihave permission to hunt the adjoining property) and poured corns all over the place and even across the fence and down into the hollow in front of the stand that I now cannot hunt because of bait...... I have been a dog hunter the past few years bc the club I was in runs dogs and it's right by my house...... I still hunt in the mornings, go get in the race when I get out, and head back to the stand in the evening....... I'm not beaching about ALL dog hunters, I know there are some decent folks around that try their best..... But I know there are alot of arseholes out there that have a I don't give a chit attitude....... One bad example can put a negative stereotype on people even if they are doing right....... I have hog dogs..... They run hogs..... They are silent on track, and do not bark until they have a hog stopped and are lookin at him..... Have they crossed onto private land? Absolutely..... They have a passion for catching hogs.... I have bayed one as far as 5.5 MILES as crow flies from his strike up point....... BUT if or when they cross onto private land, I find the landowner or someone who has permission to be there, and I go get my dogs and the pig.... Of course if you tell someone you have a hog bayed and you need to go get the dogs, 99% of the time they won't let you finish your sentence....... Man yea go right ahead... Or follow me...... And as far as shooting a dog, I'll put it this way..... Unless you have vacation, short term disability, or have the money to not have to go to work, you best keep em pointed in a safe direction!

[strongriverducker1]

but why hang the good guys out to dry.

Because you aren't doing a good enough job of policing your own. It's cliche to say the good shouldn't suffer with the bad, but we all know that that is the way life and society works.

It pains me to condemn the way anyone chooses to enjoy hunting season. However, in this case, too many are enjoying it carelessly, at the expense of the enjoyment of others. It can't continue. Last season changed my mind on the topic -- for good.

So your saying it is my duty to police all the dog hunters in the state? Right!! This is a debate that will go on forever that was started years ago by a bunch of rich guys that wanted it all. There is a place for dog hunting and also a place that it won't work. I love to still hunt but also dog hunt because that is what my dad does so we doing that together. You want to point fingers, then what about that still hunter that hunts over a pile of corn or taters, or the one that we catch every year hunting on our land, the guy that put his hand over the camera so his buddy could drag the deer he killed down the road and not get caught. Or here are my two favorite, the guy that cut the fence to my pasture so he could drive and shoot across it when he thought I was out of town or the one that took a dump in my wife foodplot. The list could go on, still hunters can be bad too. I hunt with the best group of guys out there that try to do right and spend all night trying to catch dogs. Us as sportsman need to find a way to work together in Mississippi so all can enjoy the outdoors.

[jdbuckshot]

but why hang the good guys out to dry.

Because you aren't doing a good enough job of policing your own. It's cliche to say the good shouldn't suffer with the bad, but we all know that that is the way life and society works.

It pains me to condemn the way anyone chooses to enjoy hunting season. However, in this case, too many are enjoying it carelessly, at the expense of the enjoyment of others. It can't continue. Last season changed my mind on the topic -- for good.

So your saying it is my duty to police all the dog hunters in the state? Right!! This is a debate that will go on forever that was started years ago by a bunch of rich guys that wanted it all. There is a place for dog hunting and also a place that it won't work. I love to still hunt but also dog hunt because that is what my dad does so we doing that together. You want to point fingers, then what about that still hunter that hunts over a pile of corn or taters, or the one that we catch every year hunting on our land, the guy that put his hand over the camera so his buddy could drag the deer he killed down the road and not get caught. Or here are my two favorite, the guy that cut the fence to my pasture so he could drive and shoot across it when he thought I was out of town or the one that took a dump in my wife foodplot. The list could go on, still hunters can be bad too. I hunt with the best group of guys out there that try to do right and spend all night trying to catch dogs. Us as sportsman need to find a way to work together in Mississippi so all can enjoy the outdoors.

Agreed,

the issue at hand is not outlaws,

the issue at hand is that the state law allows dog hunter to run there dogs where ever they wish with no recoarse for the dogs whereabouts.

if i own the land, and wish for no deer dogs to be on my land, it should be against the law for a dog hunters dog to cross my land.

If you can't controll your dogs where abouts, keep him in the box.

remember you are ruining someone elses fun just to have yours.

and if your dog is a mile away, how in the world are you going to shoot that far ?