Whats the law on dog hunting

[jdbuckshot]

I agree with alot of that has been posted, except for the harrassing the dog part.

found three dogs laid up on our place yesterday, radio collar batteries dead, starving, and literally almost ran them selves to death.

i know they have been out since saturday.

walking to the stand, climb up only 30 min later have one trail me all the way to my plot and sit at the tree.

so i get down call the owners name on the collar, no answer, i take them to the road and drop them off.

third hunt in a row wasted by somebody elses deer dog.

I work a regular job just like most others, so when i get a chance to hunt i take advantage of it, only to have it ruined.... Again.

[TODO]

Nobody runs dogs in my neck of the woods so its not a problem, but i can understand the frustration. I think the dog hunters either police themselves or risk it being banned altogether. But long and short of it is theres not much you can do about it at the moment.

[D1]

As a hunter education instructor, we teach in our class that what you do as a hunter reflects on me and what I do as a hunter reflects on me. So like it or not dog hunting is a heritage in the south and as previously we cant do anything about it.

As a dog hunter the crews I hunt with do everything we can to keep dogs off private property and will NOT turn our dogs loose on or in the direction of private property(within reason. if its a small block of woods between where we are and private property we steer awy from it). If we have dogs go around houses we leave or firearms with other people and go try to catch the dogs.

Sure there are some crews that will turn loose right on top a posted sign and use "the dog cant read" excuse, and how many "tree huggers" as we call them here harvest illegal deer(on public land) in front of the dogs, or hug a tree on the property line of your property and harvest a deer you have been scouting or put corn out and shoot anything that walk up to it(private land)and blame it on a dog hunter running deer even by them. Yes dog hunters do it too, however we get the blame for everything.

Someone stated they are to hard to catch when they are running. if you cant catch them while they are running what makes you think they dog hunter can catch them?

The problem with with gps tracking collars, as I have seen stated already, is the battery will only last so long, therefore if a dog gets in an area accessible the battery will die before the owner can get the dog.

If dog hunting is banned where do you draw the line?Is it ok for beagles,labs,pointers, fiest and curs to do what they are bred to do, or do you just ban walker hounds, by the way, fox and coyote hounds run all over private property as well, so why do we bash the deer dogs? Someone stated they have hog dogs, how many time have they been on private property following the game they are running? I have had some of all of these dogs at one time or another and probably will again, and would love to see my grand kids own and train dogs.

As I stated earlier, I teach the HE classes and the conservation officer that does our range portion told the class, some 6 years ago, that the non hunters who dont care if hunting continues hunters in the state, the residents who want to stop hunting in MS. can use the hunters actions against each other(arguing over this very topic) to convince non hunters to side with them to get hunting stopped if it ever comes to a vote, meaning we loose because we cant work together to accomplish anything for our own good.

just this weekend a friend was dog hunting on a goverment road and his 14 year old step son shot a small 4 point(first deer) in the branch on one side of the road while it was headed to the block behind some houses. while trying to find the deer a guy who bought property a half a mile through the woods(backs up to national forest) came up on his 4 wheeler fussing about how they were trespassing and he bought this property so he could have peace and quite and he was calling the cops,when they found the deer started in on how that deer was illegal. My friend told him he needed to check his paperwork and read the regulations on legal deer and go ahead and call the cops so they can write him a ticket for being on an atv in national forest guy left and they havent seen him yet.

just my .02 worth

[randywallace]

As a hunter education instructor, we teach in our class that what you do as a hunter reflects on me and what I do as a hunter reflects on me. So like it or not dog hunting is a heritage in the south and as previously we cant do anything about it.

As a dog hunter the crews I hunt with do everything we can to keep dogs off private property and will NOT turn our dogs loose on or in the direction of private property(within reason. if its a small block of woods between where we are and private property we steer awy from it). If we have dogs go around houses we leave or firearms with other people and go try to catch the dogs.

Sure there are some crews that will turn loose right on top a posted sign and use "the dog cant read" excuse, and how many "tree huggers" as we call them here harvest illegal deer(on public land) in front of the dogs, or hug a tree on the property line of your property and harvest a deer you have been scouting or put corn out and shoot anything that walk up to it(private land)and blame it on a dog hunter running deer even by them. Yes dog hunters do it too, however we get the blame for everything.

Someone stated they are to hard to catch when they are running. if you cant catch them while they are running what makes you think they dog hunter can catch them?

The problem with with gps tracking collars, as I have seen stated already, is the battery will only last so long, therefore if a dog gets in an area accessible the battery will die before the owner can get the dog.

If dog hunting is banned where do you draw the line?Is it ok for beagles,labs,pointers, fiest and curs to do what they are bred to do, or do you just ban walker hounds, by the way, fox and coyote hounds run all over private property as well, so why do we bash the deer dogs? Someone stated they have hog dogs, how many time have they been on private property following the game they are running? I have had some of all of these dogs at one time or another and probably will again, and would love to see my grand kids own and train dogs.

As I stated earlier, I teach the HE classes and the conservation officer that does our range portion told the class, some 6 years ago, that the non hunters who dont care if hunting continues hunters in the state, the residents who want to stop hunting in MS. can use the hunters actions against each other(arguing over this very topic) to convince non hunters to side with them to get hunting stopped if it ever comes to a vote, meaning we loose because we cant work together to accomplish anything for our own good.

just this weekend a friend was dog hunting on a goverment road and his 14 year old step son shot a small 4 point(first deer) in the branch on one side of the road while it was headed to the block behind some houses. while trying to find the deer a guy who bought property a half a mile through the woods(backs up to national forest) came up on his 4 wheeler fussing about how they were trespassing and he bought this property so he could have peace and quite and he was calling the cops,when they found the deer started in on how that deer was illegal. My friend told him he needed to check his paperwork and read the regulations on legal deer and go ahead and call the cops so they can write him a ticket for being on an atv in national forest guy left and they havent seen him yet.

just my .02 worth

As a non-hunting education instructor and dog owner, I will say that the reason deer dog hunters get bashed is because they create the vast majority of dog hunting problems. When was the last time you heard a complaint about a squirrel hunter with a dog? What about a problem with a duck hunter's lab? Sure it has happened, but what folks really get chapped about is a pack of walkers running all over there place for weeks on end and their owners repeating the ol "my dog kant read" line. You may be familar with the problems in the Forest land in southwest MS. If you aren't, suffice to say there were several instances of landowners (some hunters and some not) being threatened by dog hunters. The landowners finally decided to stand up and speak loud enough to get something done. Much like many other areas of the state, the bad apples are ruining it for the legit deer dog hunters down there. Having grown up chasing hounds, I still like a good race. However, I am realistic enough to know why landowners have a problem with deer dogs.

[jdbuckshot]

Saw a deer dog hurt on the side of the road yesterday, obviously was hit by a car - had a collar. was with the wife and kids going to take family portraits, so i couldn't do anything about it.

Who is responsible for the damage to the vehicle? i mean the dog doesn't know not to cross a busy highway, and the dog doesn't have any money ?

[Dux Be Us]

Saw a deer dog hurt on the side of the road yesterday, obviously was hit by a car - had a collar. was with the wife and kids going to take family portraits, so i couldn't do anything about it.

Who is responsible for the damage to the vehicle? i mean the dog doesn't know not to cross a busy highway, and the dog doesn't have any money ?

As far as I know...there would be NO dog owner liability unless inside city limits...then the dog owner WOULD be liable for any damage

[deltadukman]

Saw a deer dog hurt on the side of the road yesterday, obviously was hit by a car - had a collar. was with the wife and kids going to take family portraits, so i couldn't do anything about it.

Who is responsible for the damage to the vehicle? i mean the dog doesn't know not to cross a busy highway, and the dog doesn't have any money ?

As far as I know...there would be NO dog owner liability unless inside city limits...then the dog owner WOULD be liable for any damage

Correct, no leash law in the county. Been through this scenerio with a customer of mine last year.

[strongriverducker1]

I have been hunting with dogs since I was a kid and just love hearing the sound like y'all love watching your labs. Yes there is a good and bad way to do it. I understand the problem and hard feelings. We hunt our club and 4000 acres of national forest and do not run private land on purpose. A few bad apples aways ruins the bunch and it is the same as dog hunting. We send more time looking and tracking dogs than we do in the woods but sometime things happen and they get away and onto private land. In my opion a man that shoots a dog no matter what it is, is the lowest form of life out there. What if I shot your lab for getting in my garbage, what's the difference? Just remeber it's not the dogs fault and deer will run a long way. If the gate is locked and nobody is around hunters can't go on your land and legally get their dogs or you will then get them for trespassing. They have just as much right to hunt as you do and that is why there is dog and still season.

[jdbuckshot]

. If the gate is locked and nobody is around hunters can't go on your land and legally get their dogs or you will then get them for trespassing. They have just as much right to hunt as you do and that is why there is dog and still season.

I agree they have the right to hunt, no doubt about that. but i don't think they should have the right for there dogs to run on my private land and not have any repercussion.

if the dog is found on private property, the Dog owner should recieve a trespassing ticket, if the private land owner wishes.

the excuse that " we try not to run our dogs on private land" is lame> You are correct, its not ethical to shoot a dog under any circumstance unless your are physically threatened.

But is also not ethical to let your dog ruin some elses hunt or land becuase you can't catch them.

[Dux Be Us]

They have just as much right to hunt as you do and that is why there is dog and still season.

EXACTLY....and, a doe season


While I understand your angst...there is room for everybody

[Northbigmuddy]

IMO everyone is free to whatever please them regardless of what I think about their actions or motivations. Where the problem comes up is when someones actions detrimentally affects another. I'm not talking about a verbal or perceived issue I'm talking about physical detriment. Someone's hunt being ruined by someone else's hunt intentionally or not is a shame. Those offending parties need to clean up their act or it will ruin the good time had by responsible folks. I would never shoot another mans dog, but I would do everything within reason to see that the owner is held responsible for their actions.

[flyhi2]

Sounds like the dog owners need some incentive to catch their dog. Let's just put a reward on dogs that are caught hunting on private land. The dog owner pays say $100 to the landowner who caught the dog and everyone is happy. Hunter gets their dog back, and has lots of incentive to catch them next time they are turned out. I would be happy to pay $100 for my lab if she comes up lost.

[jdbuckshot]

These dogs are our place are like machines!!! i mean they must be some well bred dogs, they can run a deer for Days on end.

if i were a dog hunter i would be dang proud of these dogs.

[DRYLOK]

Imagine having to kick the dogs off your front porch just to go in/out your house. This is the scene everyday at my place.

[D1]

Imagine having to kick the dogs off your front porch just to go in/out your house. This is the scene everyday at my place.

see..........the nice dog hunter is trying to catch his dogs before they get on your land..........