Jury Verdict in on Rebs

[hottytoddy]

Analysis is Ole Miss sucks, have sucked, and will continue to suck until they start increasing the amounts of their recruit/player handshakes.

Now that's the pot calling the kettle black. Maybe Ole Miss should take a lesson from M$U on this one and show us how it's done. Yall aren't even good at cheating.

[hottytoddy]

There is definitely a difference in "The Fight" in the players this year than the last 2 years. If "Hooty" was still coaching we'd be 0-3 right now and would have lost 99-0 this past weekend. Ole Miss is several years behind teams in the SEC thanks in part to Houston's lackadaisical and lazy (I don't give a f@#*) approach as a coach and that stupid booty Boone for allowing this chit to go on.

[stang67]

Now that's the pot calling the kettle black. Maybe Ole Miss should take a lesson from M$U on this one and show us how it's done. Yall aren't even good at cheating.

Ask CJ Johnson who should be giving the lessons.

[hillhunter]

Coming from a State fan, it really looked like OM has improved tremendously from last year in one major category, effort. I think the team two years ago probably had more talent overall, but the overall effort wasn't there. This years team has some young playmakers which seem to be hungry for success. The only quarters where they resembled the past two years were the first two of the season.

Texas was their first real test. Did they pass? Maybe in the effort department, but Texas also exposed some holes that other teams with any talent on either side of the ball will probably take advantage of. Their secondary wasn't that great and as a young team tended to fall for the PA pass quite often. Big plays killed them. Moncreif is a huge playmaker, who could probably play for anyone in the SEC, including Bama (which is scary for a State fan cause we can give up more big plays than anyone).

Sad as it may seem, some of these comments are startling similar to comments made by most State fans during Mullen's first two years. While we havent played any non-conference foes close to Texas stature, we were able to "hang in there" and "had good effort" against some descent teams.

As far as State goes, we should have lost this weekend. They not only played down to the competition, but below it. They outplayed us in every category except turnovers. Our team played with no emotion, no sense of urgency the whole game which has me worried. A team like ours cant afford to come out flat against any opponent. Which is what has me worried about the OM game. The team with the most emotion will win that game. State may be slightly better from a talent standpoint but aside from the AU game has not come out very pumped all year.

[camlock]

Coming from a State fan, it really looked like OM has improved tremendously from last year in one major category, effort. I think the team two years ago probably had more talent overall, but the overall effort wasn't there. This years team has some young playmakers which seem to be hungry for success. The only quarters where they resembled the past two years were the first two of the season.

Texas was their first real test. Did they pass? Maybe in the effort department, but Texas also exposed some holes that other teams with any talent on either side of the ball will probably take advantage of. Their secondary wasn't that great and as a young team tended to fall for the PA pass quite often. Big plays killed them. Moncreif is a huge playmaker, who could probably play for anyone in the SEC, including Bama (which is scary for a State fan cause we can give up more big plays than anyone).

Sad as it may seem, some of these comments are startling similar to comments made by most State fans during Mullen's first two years. While we havent played any non-conference foes close to Texas stature, we were able to "hang in there" and "had good effort" against some descent teams.

As far as State goes, we should have lost this weekend. They not only played down to the competition, but below it. They outplayed us in every category except turnovers. Our team played with no emotion, no sense of urgency the whole game which has me worried. A team like ours cant afford to come out flat against any opponent. Which is what has me worried about the OM game. The team with the most emotion will win that game. State may be slightly better from a talent standpoint but aside from the AU game has not come out very pumped all year.

when talent difference is not a major factor (ie. Texas/Ole Miss, LSU or Bama/anybody) motivation and confidence is an amazing thing in college athletics...why i don't bet on em!

[Long Cut]

Hell our little "sucky" team put up 31 on Texas not J State and not Troy but Texas. That's pretty good considering where we have been the last few years and where everyone says we will be at the end of this season. Dang right its a moral victory, when you're trying to rebuild a burned down house you'll take what ever victory you can get to help rebuild. Y'ALL remember the Croom years?

Anybody that was at the game Saturday night in Oxford will tell you that Texas was huge, fast, deep and talented. As stated above they left the first team in for a reason because they were were worried about something. The Texas team that I saw play would have spanked MSU's butt just about as bad as they did the Rebs and if you think any different than you my friend are delusional. Congrats on beating Auburn and J State and Troy and on being 3-0 and yeah I'm not betting money on OM to get 6 wins this year or beat State but if I was wearing the maroon and white I wouldn't be in Full Strut just yet.

In sports and in in life there are people who when you are down will cheer for you to get back up. Some people will cheer for you to stay down but most will reserve their judgement because they want to see how you react after being down. As for me, I think many people and not just Reb fans are beginning to see that the team is responding pretty well after being down for so long.

[MSDawg870]

I think the Rebs will give Tulane fits this weekend.

[Po Monkey Lounger]

Well, this thread about the Ole Miss - Texas game, and the Rebel program, really went to schit.

Interesting to note that there is not a single thread about MSU's big win over Helen of Troy. While there is little doubt that no one else in the world of college football could give two squirts of piss about the MSU v Troy game, does the lack of discussion here on this MSU dominated board indicate: 1) that even the MSU fans (and apparently the players) didn't really care about the game either; or 2) that MSU fans would rather discuss an Ole Miss loss than an MSU win?

Even after 3 straight wins, and a 3-0 start, and a recent ranking in the top 25, the MSU fans here are more worried about someone saying something mildly positive about the struggling Rebel team/program than discussing their own team. Just can't stand it. And the positive comments were all couched in terms of possibility and reasonable/decent chance, not anything close to bragging (as there is nothing really to brag about). Yet, some MSU fans here still like playing the straw man argument game, and exaggerate any positive statements by Rebel fans in order to create something to argue about. Hell, there is no Rebel fan here that would disagree with the premise that the Rebels might not win more than 4 games. I agree. That is certainly a possibility. We may not win more than 3 games. Our own coach has said our program is in the wilderness. No one has predicted much of anything good for the Rebels. When folks say there is a chance to win 6, it means exactly what was said. There is no secret code here that requires deciphering. Based upon the poor play of some of our opponents who we thought were going to be better, there does indeed seem to be a better chance for the Rebels to win 6. In case you haven't noticed, Vandy, Arkansas, and Auburn ain't looking too hot right now. Our schedule, pre-season ranked as one of the toughest in the country, isn't looking quite as daunting right now.

Hell's bells, Arkansas was talking about winning a national title before the season began. And started out the season ranked in the top 10. Arkansas even made a sneaky schedule switchero, moving the Ole Miss game to Little Rock and the LSU game to Fayetteville thinking this move would give them a better chance to beat LSU in their pursuit of the national title. And they didn't think they needed the Ozark home field advantage to easily beat Ole Miss., which historically has played well against the Hogs in Little Rock and will bring a lot of fans (which is why they moved the Ole Miss game to Fayetteville in the first place). I'll bet they are and will be questioning that decision later.

Vandy was talking mighty big before the season began with some prognosticators buying in, but the only team they've beaten so far is Ol Suziannah's blind sisters of the poor. And Auburn certainly was thought to be better than it has shown to-date. The poor QB play at Auburn is rather shocking, to be honest, with a certain deer in headlights, brick throwing quality to it, that I haven't seen since the days of Michael Spurlock at QB for Ole Miss, or any of the 3 QBs who played for MSU during the 2008 Egg Bowl.

Of course, all three of these teams could miraculously get their act together and improve as the season progresses, and the Rebels could succumb as expected. But, I don't think any of these teams will intimidate the Rebel football team this year one bit (or anyone else for that matter).

So, to my MSU brothers here, my advice is to stop worrying about what the Rebels are doing until the Egg Bowl, and turn your concerns toward your own team. Celebrate the big wins against JSU, Auburn and Troy that have the entire college world buzzing. And start dreaming about the Sugar Bowl and that national title Mullen predicted at the SEC media days. Its coming. IMO, ya'll are really, really close (like a midget whisker). MSU should start this season 7-0 with no problem and be well on their way. I've even got an MSU fever, and the prescription is more cowbell.

http://www.laughness.com/snl-gotta-have ... -skit.1126

[davidees]

Hell our little "sucky" team put up 31 on Texas not J State and not Troy but Texas. That's pretty good considering where we have been the last few years and where everyone says we will be at the end of this season. Dang right its a moral victory, when you're trying to rebuild a burned down house you'll take what ever victory you can get to help rebuild. Y'ALL remember the Croom years?

Anybody that was at the game Saturday night in Oxford will tell you that Texas was huge, fast, deep and talented. As stated above they left the first team in for a reason because they were were worried about something. The Texas team that I saw play would have spanked MSU's butt just about as bad as they did the Rebs and if you think any different than you my friend are delusional. Congrats on beating Auburn and J State and Troy and on being 3-0 and yeah I'm not betting money on OM to get 6 wins this year or beat State but if I was wearing the maroon and white I wouldn't be in Full Strut just yet.

In sports and in in life there are people who when you are down will cheer for you to get back up. Some people will cheer for you to stay down but most will reserve their judgement because they want to see how you react after being down. As for me, I think many people and not just Reb fans are beginning to see that the team is responding pretty well after being down for so long.

Texas would not come to DWS and hang 61. They'd be very lucky to leave with a W.

[REBEL DUCK]

State don't play anyone but Lsu and bama they should have a heck of a year. Texas would of skull drug state also and if you think different your high.

[camlock]

Ole Miss has played 2 winnable games, won both, and played a game that they were going to lose from kickoff. What if Ole Miss loses to Tulane this weekend? What will be the discussions then .........well hey at least we put up 31 against Texas, on your home field, and still got blown out by 35. It would've been 42 if that FB had maned up and gotten in the last minute.

What if State had lost to Troy? Ole Miss should've lost to Texas, State shouldn't have barely escaped Troy...What if Auburn didn't suck and Tyler Wilson hadn't been hurt and Bobby Petrino wasn't a whore....What if OM beat Tulane by 50 and Texas goes 12-0 and rolls numerous opponents? What's your point? Why are you talking in if's?

[camlock]

Because I can.

You Rebs are so sensitive these days. I remember taking so much caca from Reb fans when Jackie started the downhill slide and then during the Croom years. That one winning with Croom was a fluke, which I stated several times I do believe. They played tough and with more effort under Croom, but there wasn't many W's going on the board. Who loses to Maine in football? Miss State

Since I've irritated some Ole Miss fans, I'll put myself in timeout for the foreseeable future. I will not post in any topic discussing Ole Miss, whether good or bad.

ninja please...

[farmerc83]

Ole Miss has played 2 winnable games, won both, and played a game that they were going to lose from kickoff. What if Ole Miss loses to Tulane this weekend? What will be the discussions then .........well hey at least we put up 31 against Texas, on your home field, and still got blown out by 35. It would've been 42 if that FB had maned up and gotten in the last minute.

What if State had lost to Troy? Ole Miss should've lost to Texas, State shouldn't have barely escaped Troy...What if Auburn didn't suck and Tyler Wilson hadn't been hurt and Bobby Petrino wasn't a whore....What if OM beat Tulane by 50 and Texas goes 12-0 and rolls numerous opponents? What's your point? Why are you talking in if's?

Think he was talking if's because of PoMonk's question. As Jeff said, State has won 3 games they should've won....not a lot to talk about. The moral victories are so thick in here that Webbie himself may not be able to get an accurate tally. Either way tho, it seems PoMonk doesn't like for State fans to say anything nice about his Rebs, but if we can't say something nice then we aren't acknowledging the "facts" and are classless.....there is no pleasing you PoMonk

[Po Monkey Lounger]

there is no pleasing you PoMonk

Sure there is. I am always pleased with "intelligent" conversation, even with people who state something that I disagree with. What I don't like, and most should know this by now (not that it really matters), is interupting threads with such astute analysis as "you suck", or some other silly nanny nanny boo boo type of statement. If you think Ole Miss sucks, then join the crowd and the discussion and tell us why you think this Rebel team won't be able to win more than 3 or 4 games for instance, regardless of how poor the future opposition is currently performing. We can all appreciate good discussion and debate.

I haven't commented much on other games, for instance the MSU-Troy game, because I did not see any of the other games. I was in Oxford on the Square at noon, and then later on campus from 3:00 pm until midnight. All I know about the MSU game is what I have read in the paper and what some have said about it here (which is not much). I don't know what happened to Arkansas in its game with the Tide, but it looks on the surface to have been a major beat down. I saw a litte bit of the Auburn game ---- did not see the comeback by ULM or the OT period. It is much easier to get a full appreciation for what happened in a game by witnessing it live. But, if I did comment in a thread about one of these games, I would hope that it would be more than just a "you suck" type of comment.

Just trying (probably beyond hope) to create an atmosphere here where we can all discuss SEC football without every such thread degenerating into nothing more than juvenile smack. There is still a lot of football to be played and good discussion to be had ---maybe. Carry on.

And BTW, can we get a moratorium on the "you cheat more than we cheat posts" and other comments about cheating. These posts, unless part of a specific thread topic about cheating, are almost always thread killers that cause threads to morph into the juvenile smack I mentioned above. Very few of these cheating allegations ever amount to a hill of beans, and aren't really worth discussing much --- its certainly not worth permeating every thread with it. If you think some school is cheating, then report it to the NCAA and the SEC or someone else that matters and who cares. Provide the proof to someone who will matter or shut the f#$% up about it. That goes for all --- Rebels, Dogs, Dawgs, Elephants, Tigers, Hogs, War Eagles, etc. If the shoe fits, then wear it. End of rant.

[stang67]

Just trying (probably beyond hope) to create an atmosphere here where we can all discuss SEC football without every such thread degenerating into nothing more than juvenile smack. There is still a lot of football to be played and good discussion to be had ---maybe. Carry on.

I really hate to be critical of another coach but does anyone else think that John L Smith is a dumb booty goober? And the perfect fit for Arkansas?

For which post was your account hacked into?