Stop the Arms Trade Treaty

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Re: Stop the Arms Trade Treaty

Postby jacksbuddy » Wed Jul 25, 2012 11:50 am

Not to completely hi-jack the thread, but we have had some extremely heated comments made on this board regarding the "liberal left" and "those government officials who are out of touch with America" lately. In fact, these comments have been made more so in recent months than in the past. I don't know about all of you, but the comments about defending the Constitution reminded me of why I honestly appreciate the 2nd Ammendment. It really isn't because I enjoy hunting, or I want to be able to defend my home and family from intruders, or even because it is a part of my heritage. I appreciate the 2nd Ammendment because I greatly appreciate the other 26 Ammendments to the Constitution of the United States.

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Re: Stop the Arms Trade Treaty

Postby 3spop » Wed Jul 25, 2012 12:12 pm

Looks like Cochran and Wicker sponsored this bill: http://www.cochran.senate.gov/public/in ... 2baa521831

But I couldn't find where he stated whether or not he was actually for the treaty.
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Re: Stop the Arms Trade Treaty

Postby fireplug » Wed Jul 25, 2012 12:42 pm

jacksbuddy wrote:Not to completely hi-jack the thread, but we have had some extremely heated comments made on this board regarding the "liberal left" and "those government officials who are out of touch with America" lately. In fact, these comments have been made more so in recent months than in the past. I don't know about all of you, but the comments about defending the Constitution reminded me of why I honestly appreciate the 2nd Ammendment. It really isn't because I enjoy hunting, or I want to be able to defend my home and family from intruders, or even because it is a part of my heritage. I appreciate the 2nd Ammendment because I greatly appreciate the other 26 Ammendments to the Constitution of the United States.

Just my $0.02. Thanks for listening.

Exactly, the 2nd amendment was put in place so that the people would have a defense against an out of control government. It wasn't put there for hunting or protecting your home, it was to allow US citizens the right to take a country back by force if the need be. I won't lay down my guns for anyone especially when the government has the military, law enforcement and anyone else that is armed and can do as they wish. That is called tyranny. They are now talking about banning assult weapons and large magazines. If they want to ban them for regular citizens they will have to ban them for the millitary and law enforcement as well.
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Re: Stop the Arms Trade Treaty

Postby davidees » Wed Jul 25, 2012 8:44 pm

fireplug wrote:
jacksbuddy wrote:Not to completely hi-jack the thread, but we have had some extremely heated comments made on this board regarding the "liberal left" and "those government officials who are out of touch with America" lately. In fact, these comments have been made more so in recent months than in the past. I don't know about all of you, but the comments about defending the Constitution reminded me of why I honestly appreciate the 2nd Ammendment. It really isn't because I enjoy hunting, or I want to be able to defend my home and family from intruders, or even because it is a part of my heritage. I appreciate the 2nd Ammendment because I greatly appreciate the other 26 Ammendments to the Constitution of the United States.

Just my $0.02. Thanks for listening.

Exactly, the 2nd amendment was put in place so that the people would have a defense against an out of control government. It wasn't put there for hunting or protecting your home, it was to allow US citizens the right to take a country back by force if the need be. I won't lay down my guns for anyone especially when the government has the military, law enforcement and anyone else that is armed and can do as they wish. That is called tyranny. They are now talking about banning assult weapons and large magazines. If they want to ban them for regular citizens they will have to ban them for the millitary and law enforcement as well.
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Re: Stop the Arms Trade Treaty

Postby DEERHUNT » Fri Aug 10, 2012 11:03 am

Guy since I moved to Kansas I sent the letter to our Gov. Officals and this is an email I just got in response




August 10, 2012


Mr. William Abels



Dear Mr. Abels:

Thank you for contacting me regarding international weapons trade. I appreciate your comments and concerns on this issue.

In 2006, the United Nations Conference to review the illegal trade of small arms and light weapons (SA/LW) served as a platform to discuss the UN Program of Action on the Illicit Trade in Small Arms and Light Weapons in All Its Aspects adopted in 2001. Program goals include effective enforcement, better controls and regulations, safer stockpiling, and weapons collection and destruction of the worlds illegal weapons. Targets of this initiative include illegal arms brokers, corrupt officials, drug trafficking syndicates, and criminals. Specifically, this program requires a comprehensive program for worldwide gun control, an international tracking certificate which would help the UN monitor movement of small arms and light weapons worldwide record keeping on the manufacture, holding, and transfer of small arms and lights weapons, and national registries and tracking lists of all legal firearms. However, the 2006 conference concluded without agreement on an outcome document.

Rest assured, I remain in strong support of congressional efforts to preserve our Second Amendment right to bear arms. Furthermore, I am opposed to actions that infringe on those rights and do not effectively reduce crime and violence. Firearm laws should only be enacted with the intent to punish criminal activity. Rather than chipping away at fundamental liberties backed by the Constitution, we should target the real problemmainly crime.

Throughout my service in the U.S. Senate, I have consistently voted to strengthen sentences for crimes committed with guns, and I have supported provisions to stop violent crime and remove repeat offenders from the streets. Supporters of gun control claim that to reduce crime the government must regulate firearms. This view fails to recognize that criminals do not obey laws, and that passing gun legislation has no effect on removing guns from the hands of criminals. Nationwide statistics prove that states with strict gun laws have little effect on crime rates. In the end, it is only law-abiding citizens who are punished by gun control.

Again thank you for taking the time to contact me. Rest assured, should the UN SA/LW Treaty be considered in the Senate, I will keep your comments in mind. If you would like more information on issues before the Senate, please visit my website at http://roberts.senate.gov. You may also sign up on my home page for a monthly electronic newsletter that will provide additional updates on my work for Kansas.

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Re: Stop the Arms Trade Treaty

Postby SNOT » Fri Aug 10, 2012 2:10 pm

DEERHUNT wrote:Guy since I moved to Kansas I sent the letter to our Gov. Officals and this is an email I just got in response




Specifically, this program requires a comprehensive program for worldwide gun control, an international tracking certificate which would help the UN monitor movement of small arms and light weapons worldwide record keeping on the manufacture, holding, and transfer of small arms and lights weapons, and national registries and tracking lists of all legal firearms.
That was a good response from him - I thought this part was funny.....the UN wants to implement a worldwide tracking system for weapons - sounds like Fast & Furious and the idiots couldn't keep track of a few thousand weapons. I'm sure the UN wouldn't do much better.

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