Anyone ever dealt with this gun law?

[southernvaughan]

And remember what the law states...if there is a SECURE location for you to park, you cannot bring in a firearm.

My office here in Vicksburg has a chainlink fence with a pad lock on the gate. So, I CANNOT bring a firearm on the premise.

Now, our office in Terry, Edwards, Utica, Flora have nothing securing these sites.

Also, this would still not allow me to take a firearm inside of our building.

That's how I understand it. Like you some of our facilities do have fences and gates and such, but the one I work at does not.

[mudsucker]

Their signs and policies hold no legal weight about your vehicles or even carrying on your person under the enhanced permit. The only thing they can do is fire you and if you refuse to leave, press charges for trespassing. There will be no "gun related" charges. I don't bat an eye at "no weapons" signs anymore! I couldn't/wouldn't work somewhere that thought so little of me they stripped my right to defend myself!

Don't you work on a family farm?
Good thing you do not work on a ship. This being a Govt. ship(ACOE), it is an even bigger deal. No firearms or yo booty gets removed. Usually on Merchant ships, Capt. is allow one in his safe. This is per Coast Guard rules and you travel to different states and countries. Do not think they are gonna honor your little Miss. CC card!

[chevy01234]

No, I don't work on a family farm. What does it matter where I work? My statement remains true, I couldn't/wouldn't work like a sheep relying on a "security professional" with a flashlight to protect my life.

Unfortunately government employees often get the shaft when it comes to "rules", this is no different.

As far as different states honoring my "little Miss cc card"..we have reciprocity with 25 other states. Obviously other countries would not honor a foreigners gun permit.

[Buckwabit]

In the Federal Handbook..there is one thing that can get you fired on the spot

You would think it would be some of the following

Don't do your job
Don't show up for work
Steal from you place of employment
Sexual harrass coworkers
Get in a fight
Watch Porn all day


NOOOOOO!! You can stay here with all that going on. But they will fire you on the spot with a Firearm!!!

[cwink]

So you are trying to tell me that with my enhanced carry permit, I can ignore my employers signage and carry my CCW into my work place? You are an idiot if you believe that!!!!!

None of us are saying you should ignore the signage. What we are saying is that according to the law, if you carry your firearm into your workplace even if they have a sign up, you are not breaking the LAW. Now you will be breaking a company policy, which if caught you will most likely get fired, but you won't go to Jail. So its a personal decision on your part. Do you carry your firearm and risk getting fired, or do you choose to be able to defend yourself. Your call...

[Buckwabit]

^^ I would have to choose my Income and my family's well being. I can defend myself with my pocket knife if worst comes to worst

[cwink]

^^ I would have to choose my Income and my family's well being. I can defend myself with my pocket knife if worst comes to worst

And that is the option that many people take.. I'm not going to criticize that decision, at least we have the oppurtunity to choose in this country.

[IttaBenaKilla]

Well I know in Louisiana your car is considered an extention of your home and with that being said, nobody can tell you that you cant have a gun in your home. But thats what makes my state a "Little Slice of Heaven"

The good ol' Mississippi has the same law.

[SFDdelta1]

Well I know in Louisiana your car is considered an extention of your home and with that being said, nobody can tell you that you cant have a gun in your home. But thats what makes my state a "Little Slice of Heaven"

The good ol' Mississippi has the same law.

Yep

Also there was a federal law enacted after 911 I will have to get a new copy of it. Off duty law enforcement officers local, state, and federal are allowed to carry their weapon at all times off duty.

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[chevy01234]

Well I know in Louisiana your car is considered an extention of your home and with that being said, nobody can tell you that you cant have a gun in your home. But thats what makes my state a "Little Slice of Heaven"

The good ol' Mississippi has the same law.

Yep

Also there was a federal law enacted after 911 I will have to get a new copy of it. Off duty law enforcement officers local, state, and federal are allowed to carry their weapon at all times off duty.

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Called the Law Enforcement Officer Safety Act also known as HR 218. Great law for LEO's Off duty safety!

[levi127]

Well I know in Louisiana your car is considered an extention of your home and with that being said, nobody can tell you that you cant have a gun in your home. But thats what makes my state a "Little Slice of Heaven"

The good ol' Mississippi has the same law.

Yep

Also there was a federal law enacted after 911 I will have to get a new copy of it. Off duty law enforcement officers local, state, and federal are allowed to carry their weapon at all times off duty.

E

Im guessing our company policy keeps him from doing this. Basically boils down to this? Law allows you to do like you all say, but a companies rules override it on their property if its posted or known? Only boards for termination but no charges can be brought on you if terminated for this. I dont see why someone would try and charge anyone anyways for this anyways.
I would hate for him to carry his here. He is basically deaf, has 2 bad knees, blown shoulder and hard time seeing. How he wears a uniform I have no idea honestly. You can be 5 feet from him talking, if he isnt looking at you he has no idea you are even talking.

[chevy01234]

Im guessing our company policy keeps him from doing this. Basically boils down to this? Law allows you to do like you all say, but a companies rules override it on their property if its posted or known? Only boards for termination but no charges can be brought on you if terminated for this. I dont see why someone would try and charge anyone anyways for this anyways.
I would hate for him to carry his here. He is basically deaf, has 2 bad knees, blown shoulder and hard time seeing. How he wears a uniform I have no idea honestly. You can be 5 feet from him talking, if he isnt looking at you he has no idea you are even talking.

Your companies policies are just that company policies, they don't override the law. He abides by the company policies because he doesn't want to risk his job. Just so we are clear company policies DO NOT OVERRIDE ANYTHING legally speaking they just give the company the ability to terminate employment if he breaks it. The "rule" is the same as if he was caught sleeping on the job or not wearing proper safety equipment if required. The only thing you have done if you carry is broken company policy.

[chevy01234]

Look at it from a non-management perspective...

You are in the hood.
You hear gunshots every night.
You are in an area where access is unrestricted meaning anyone could walk up.
Your security guy has a flashlight and a radio that is about as effective as a rape whistle. An active shooter situation and he will be the first one running away!
Your managers think you are on the verge of a killing spree if you have an argument or a bad day so no guns allowed.
You love your family and work hard to provide for them, but you allow yourself to be disarmed when you go in to work at a very "soft target" for a criminal or past disgruntled employee.
If you carry a gun and are caught, you get fired.
If you don't take the steps to protect yourself, you could die.

What good is working your butt off in an environment that could very easily be responsible for leaving your wife a widow and your children fatherless because someone in the ranks thinks guns are bad?


Would you rather have someone who is a good employee, has been vetted through background checks in the permit process as well as has received additional training and an upgraded firearms permit standing next to you or a security guard with a flashlight standing next to you if an employee from five years ago decides he's going to end it all and go out with a big bang by taking as many of you out as possible for ruining his life. He may have been fired before you even got there...point remains, you are in a very dangerous position regarding your personal safety.


People carrying a gun do not assume the role of John Wayne every day when they holster their firearms in some Jekyll and Hyde transformation. You are around a bunch of folks in your day to day life that are armed and you would never know it unless a bad guy needed tending to in order to save your life. People who go through the process of obtaining a firearms permit and then the additional training for an enhanced permit are not who you need to be concerned with in day to day life OR AT WORK. I don't need a permit to carry my gun to commit a crime. I don't need additional training to carry my firearm with me when i'm out looking for trouble and neither do the gangsters and other criminals. I have a permit and carry a firearm because I am a law abiding citizen who refuses to get on my knees and beg for my life while some social degenerate laughs before killing me.

I have sort of gotten off track of the original question but all this stems over not having a gun in your truck? A gun in the truck will do you about as much good as making a gun with your fingers and saying "bang" if there is an active shooter situation but I digress.

I understand the concept behind no carrying at work...do I agree with it? Nope.

Can I fault anyone for not quitting a job over a policy? Nope, I surely won't! Jobs are hard to come by without a doubt!

Do I think it is reckless and irresponsible for employers to deny the rights of their employees to defend themselves ESPECIALLY when there is inadequate security in place? I sure as heck do!

Call me cynical, paranoid, an idiot, or whatever else one may feel necessary. I am pretty opinionated about this subject and it is nothing personal. If I offend anyone, I apologize, I just think think there are some really ridiculous "rules" employers have when it comes to the safety of their employees!

[ducman77]

I had an employee of a federal agency tell me I could not carry a weapon on their property while on duty. I laughed told them to call the police and kept walking. A sign don't mean crap if you have a legal right to carry a weapon as I did you can even call Barry O if you want still would not help.