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Postby eastwoods » Mon Aug 02, 2004 8:10 pm

Where's my gun? Where's my bullets? I don't know which way to shoot.

There aint anything christian or godly about this war, except giving unto Ceaser what is Ceasar's and if you believe that and God ordained all gov'ts you have to believe he placed Sadaam in power just like Bush. There aint nothing special about this nation in God's eyes. "All have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God", Get the beam out of your eye Ridgeland. Wars are for national interests not christian interests. Christains have always done better under persecution. If you doubt it look at China right about now.

Now about that book written by men. Those were inspired men. After Emperor Nero and others bad guys and 300 yrs after the death of Christ christian friendly and later converted Constantine got ol' Eusebius to gather all the books he thought was the Bible which he did and which numbered about 50 in Greek. About 400 AD Jerome translated the same to Latin. Bibles were handcopied for for 1400 years in several different languages, but out of reach of the poor common man. About 1550 the German Gutenberg's printing press changed everything making the Bible available to all which led to the Protestant movement. The first English Bible was done in 1396 by Wycliffe which he translated from Jerome's Latin Vulgate written 405 AD. The King James was 1611 and a real committee type work. Anyway, I say all that to say this, in the last 50 years there have been many manuscripts that date back pre Jesus that are exactly the same as what came down and was preserved through history. So nothing is lost and nothing needs to be added. Believing in it is another thing entirely, but it is an accurate account.
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Postby eastwoods » Mon Aug 02, 2004 9:54 pm

Earth the center??????????????

God told Job:
"Where were you when I laid the foundations of the earth, Tell me if you have understanding. Who determined it's measurements? Surely you know! Or who stretched a line upon it? To what were it's foundations fastened? Or who laid it's cornerstone?................Tell me if you know this. Where is the way to the dwelling of light? And darkness, where is it's place. That you may take it to it's territory, That you may know the paths to it's home? Do you know because you were born then, Or because the numbers of yours days is great...............Can you bind the cluster of the Pleides, or loose the belt of Orion? Can you bring out Mazzaroth in it's season? Or can you guide the Great Bear with its clubs? Do you know the ordinance of the heavens? Can you set their dominion over the earth?..........Now prepare yourself like a man; I will question you and you shall answer me:"

edited????????????????????
Yes, to do proper exigesis one must take several translations and even the original greek, latin, and hebrews and come to the proper conclusion which means absoultely nothing to us today that it did not mean to the original people it was written to, which in small way man does disagree upon, but the canon is whole and and nothing to great of a difference that makes one hill of beans in the grand scheme of things.

Noah??????????????????????????
Can the creator destroy what he created, seems logical given the difference see what he told JOB above. Can the creator save 2 of everything he made seems logical. He made it, surely he can preserve it.

Bottom line: Once you have faith and understand the difference between the creator and the created you become like Job where before you heard with your ears, but now you see with your eyes. Things to wonderful to know and understand; therefore who are we of faith and the created to question God the creator.
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Postby peewee » Tue Aug 03, 2004 12:21 pm

"Research" ---- Comes BEFORE Results -----

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Good answer for the uniformed.
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Postby eastwoods » Tue Aug 03, 2004 7:17 pm

I to believe in an old earth. No where in the Bible says it's only 6,000 years old. 4,000 before Christ and 2,000 since. The 6,000 years comes from the human mind that thinks 6 days to God is 6 days to man and looking at the recorded geneaologies in both the Bible and secular history. There is also a bunch of lost time in the Garden and right after before Noah. You know it's real ironic that the millions of year old theories of the origin of the earth and the evolution of the species goes in the exact same order as God's 6 days which is the first page and a quick read. Even though I believe in an old earth and microevolution I do not believe in speciation or macroevolution. That is new species are created through mutation. All new species were created by God, that's why a mule can't breed. Mutation always leads to death or inability to breed which goes along with Darwin's survival of the fittest. Believing in God is great and a good start, but not enough for the Jews according to Jesus. So the questions are: do you belive in the OT and NT, just the old, or just God? Did the creator not want a relationship based on his thoughts? If the created can not comprehend the thoughts of the creator then are we any more than single celled organisms? It's a faith thing pure and simple followed by obedience.
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Postby eastwoods » Tue Aug 03, 2004 8:27 pm

Ever seen a picasso? rembrandt? deVinci? VanGoh? Seen one you seen them all. A Benny deke spread, seen one seen them all. A single creator would make things orderly seems logical to me. You know a giraffe has the same number of neck vertebra as we do. Did they evolve to reach high into the tress perhaps yes, but they can't have viable offspring with rhino.
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Postby eastwoods » Tue Aug 03, 2004 9:00 pm

your always to much fun.

That penguin may turn into a mammal but it's still a penguin and wont breed with any other mammal successfully unless maybe produce a mule.

Things evolve and perhaps Adam was black, God as well, but a man can't breed with a chimp successfully that is produce viable offspring.

When we were young they taught us how the industrial revolution changed the white moths in Europe to black you know hiding from predators on the sutty trees. Walla' proof of evolution!!! Guess what the envirnomental regulations has cleaned up the air and walla' they teach our kids the moths are white now. That moth may become a bird that can't fly in a million years, but whatever species it is it will stay that way or become extinct.

Give me one positive mutation for me to cypher upon that leads to life, besides sickle cell africans don't get malaria because I got bullets for that one.
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Postby eastwoods » Tue Aug 03, 2004 9:40 pm

Nobody ever said that two distinct species breed to make a new species.

That's true and correct!!!

One animal does however change into a completely different animal in time. Our gene strings have been traced to a tiny rodent similar to a mouse during the time the dinasours were here, 25,000,000 + ago. Animals change into other animals, it just takes a long damn time to do it,

BS, You may think a Great Dane can't breed a chiwawa, but give me some KY and a latex glove and I'll show you the ugliest dog you ever seen.

"It's still a dog" Hello!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

I need a specific example or the "missing link" to argue so until then I'll consider your theory just another one.

Speaking of theories. Why can't the freaking science books put in the theory of creation, just as plausible as other theories. Some believe the big bang, let the kids decide from all the theories.
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Postby Seymore » Tue Aug 03, 2004 10:05 pm

Dang!!! All those years wasted in Sunday School when Benny has the meaning of life right here on MS Ducks. And to think that I actually believed the Tower of Babylon story as the explanation for the different races.

Dang!!!! Where's Po Monkey? I am gonna sue me somebody for all that lost time. 8) :lol: :lol:
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Postby eastwoods » Tue Aug 03, 2004 10:23 pm

theory theory theory, can't be proven or disproven, that's whats so cool about science and theory, why can't it be cool with creation. We stopped thinking about missing links a long time ago. Poof Another theory up in smoke. Mutations only lead to death and no offspring. POOF!!! another theory up in smoke. Oh let's hang our hats on millions and billions of years, that theory will last a long time.

Guess how long it would take to make a new species based on that theory. A heck of a lot longer than age that those that say the oldest age of the earth. POOF another one.

You got to start with something to get that first Carbon atom brother, where did that come and how long to make the first chain and how long to form a double helix and how long to form a germ and how long to form plant and how long to form a chimp that turned into a man not mention how long it took the galaxies to form. Compare that time with those with a little Carbon 14 dating kit which by the way is what they use to age the earliest bible manuscripts and you get two different theories. Both aint right.

:wink: POOF!!!
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Postby SoftCall » Tue Aug 03, 2004 10:51 pm

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Postby peewee » Wed Aug 04, 2004 9:26 am

I wonder why we have not had any fossil evidence that shows evolution in affect. With all the fossils they are finding you would think they would find one specimen.
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Postby riverrat » Wed Aug 04, 2004 5:34 pm

question for the "all wise" :roll: Benny.

you talk about your love for hunting and how good you are at it. what happens when your "heinz bottle squeezing" president gets into office and his tree hugging, animal humping, peta supporting wife takes your guns and right to hunt away?

question 2.

your president claims to support hunting when he really doesn't, and you still support him?

why don't you support the real one who gave you something to hunt and the right to hunt? :lol:

i love listening to your comments and never ending arguments even though i don't agree with ya i still enjoy your side of the story :lol: [/i]
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Postby riverrat » Wed Aug 04, 2004 5:58 pm

fraidy pants?

i feel as secure as anybody that i have a commander and chief who is not scared to protect my freedom.

fraidy pants, this will be so true when car bombs are more prevalent in this country whenever your savior becomes president.

by the way you didn't answer all my questions.
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Postby DuckyDan » Fri Aug 06, 2004 2:24 pm

Damn! I leave town for a week and get back on here and Benny has already got another rukus started up.

Edwards was in Memphis this week while we were up there....I think he's the one who busted up my vehicle....he probably didn't like my bumper sticker. :lol:
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Postby riverrat » Fri Aug 06, 2004 10:09 pm

i finally agree with you on how strong America and her people are, but what makes this nation strong is our government including the president and his staff who is running it. when 9/11 hit, it was a direct attack on our since of freedom and security that we so thankfully have, and who do people rally with during times of uncertainty, your commander and chief. they tried to break us and W called their bluff and sent it right back up their arses :twisted: .

what do ya think the market is going to do after the worst attack on American soil in history, duh retard :shock: .

no you didn't answer all my questions like what about your right to own a gun and use it to do supposedly your favorite sport, hunt, being this is a hunting forum that is why i am shutting up now because i would rather talk about the sport i love than waste my time arguing with a no brained booty clown like yourself. :lol:
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