Meetings with the MDWFP

[coonman]

Read this if you want to know a little about what people think about Missouri's new Quick Draw.

http://www.missouriwhitetails.com/forum ... tid=154115

[Wingman]

Rbsdrake, Do you honestly think that by setting up what, 6 meetings across the state, that MDWFP is trying to make it harder for you to attend?

Honestly, I don't know what is the driving force behind the draw and the $5 application fee, but I do know that many people who are drawn never show up. So if $5 means more people show up who are actually supposed to show up, I think it is a good idea. If that means standby guys don't get to hunt, then I hate it for y'all.

I'd very much like my local wma to be something other than draw (for deer and duck) so I could drive 5 miles over there and hunt whenever I wanted, but it's a draw and it probably always will be. I've seen idiot duck hunters set up right on top of you and refuse to move down so if a draw means less of that I'm all for it. You can't teach a grown man how to respect others. All we have now days is the "I'm gonna get mine and I don't care who I step on to get it" attitude. We need to have some state-sponsored butt whoopings to teach some of these punks how to act and what happens if they behave like spoiled little rich kids. Sometimes I just wish they'd turn me loose with a 2x4 and a taser.

Seriously though, I think what set the whole draw-hunt snowball to rolling was the mahannah pre-daylight fiasco a few years ago and the lack of respect on some of these wma's. Then the duck hunting public complained and the result was to limit the number of hunters on an area at any given time. Then the lack of attendance by folks who put in for the draw probably sparked the "pay to apply" thing we're seeing this year. I don't see how you can blame MDWFP for it.

[vicksburg]

Rbsdrake, Do you honestly think that by setting up what, 6 meetings across the state, that MDWFP is trying to make it harder for you to attend?

Honestly, I don't know what is the driving force behind the draw and the $5 application fee, but I do know that many people who are drawn never show up. So if $5 means more people show up who are actually supposed to show up, I think it is a good idea. If that means standby guys don't get to hunt, then I hate it for y'all.

I'd very much like my local wma to be something other than draw (for deer and duck) so I could drive 5 miles over there and hunt whenever I wanted, but it's a draw and it probably always will be. I've seen idiot duck hunters set up right on top of you and refuse to move down so if a draw means less of that I'm all for it. You can't teach a grown man how to respect others. All we have now days is the "I'm gonna get mine and I don't care who I step on to get it" attitude. We need to have some state-sponsored butt whoopings to teach some of these punks how to act and what happens if they behave like spoiled little rich kids. Sometimes I just wish they'd turn me loose with a 2x4 and a taser.

Seriously though, I think what set the whole draw-hunt snowball to rolling was the mahannah pre-daylight fiasco a few years ago and the lack of respect on some of these wma's. Then the duck hunting public complained and the result was to limit the number of hunters on an area at any given time. Then the lack of attendance by folks who put in for the draw probably sparked the "pay to apply" thing we're seeing this year. I don't see how you can blame MDWFP for it.

Rob,
Everything you said above, i agree with,...I like the $5 feee idea...however, what your missing is they are now going to predraw every hunting position instead of half, like the previous years. Not everyone can afford a $100,000 per year lease and these people may only get to hunt on a moments notice when they get a spare minute off of work. The department needs to leave the number of pre season draws that were selected in the years past the same for these reasons.

[Wingman]

I know not everyone can afford a $100,000 lease. That's why they made the MS River.

I see your point about the stand by spots. I just don't understand the whining about the meeting locations, laziness about not having to be there early in the morning, etc.

[CBRADGO]

I know not everyone can afford a $100,000 lease. That's why they made the MS River.

I see your point about the stand by spots. I just don't understand the whining about the meeting locations, laziness about not having to be there early in the morning, etc.

Because people want to bitch about a solution and not do anything about it. It's the culture of today: instant gratification, no work involved, I reap the benefits, ME ME ME. 1/2 standby and 1/2 draw is the way to go but if it isn't addressed properly the MDWFP will do as they see fit, common sense and opinion be damned...

[rbsdrake]

[quote="Wingman"]Rbsdrake, Do you honestly think that by setting up what, 6 meetings across the state, that MDWFP is trying to make it harder for you to attend?

Honestly, I don't know what is the driving force behind the draw and the $5 application fee, but I do know that many people who are drawn never show up. So if $5 means more people show up who are actually supposed to show up, I think it is a good idea. If that means standby guys don't get to hunt, then I hate it for y'all.

I'd very much like my local wma to be something other than draw (for deer and duck) so I could drive 5 miles over there and hunt whenever I wanted, but it's a draw and it probably always will be. I've seen idiot duck hunters set up right on top of you and refuse to move down so if a draw means less of that I'm all for it. You can't teach a grown man how to respect others. All we have now days is the "I'm gonna get mine and I don't care who I step on to get it" attitude. We need to have some state-sponsored butt whoopings to teach some of these punks how to act and what happens if they behave like spoiled little rich kids. Sometimes I just wish they'd turn me loose with a 2x4 and a taser.

Seriously though, I think what set the whole draw-hunt snowball to rolling was the mahannah pre-daylight fiasco a few years ago and the lack of respect on some of these wma's. Then the duck hunting public complained and the result was to limit the number of hunters on an area at any given time. Then the lack of attendance by folks who put in for the draw probably sparked the "pay to apply" thing we're seeing this year. I don't see how you can blame MDWFP for it.[/quote]

Rob I know u don't like me but why are u singling me out? I was just talking $#!+ like the others that posted before me. I don't care how far I have to drive or how many meetings I have to go to. I hunt public land only and I love it. If it would help I would pay $50 for a wma permit. I don't care what it cost. That $50 is a hell of a lot cheaper then trying to get in a lease. So what am I supposed to do if I pay for my wma permit $5 per draw application and dont get drawn for a thing. Sit my @ss at home without a place to hunt?

[Wingman]

Who said I didn't like you? Just don't be complaining about 6 statewide meetings. Go to one of them and tell 'em how you feel.

[rbsdrake]

Who said I didn't like you? Just don't be complaining about 6 statewide meetings. Go to one of them and tell 'em how you feel.

It's great they are having all those meetings but are they doing it for convenience or does the meeting in each location effect only the wmas in that area? If so I have to go to 3 different meetings. That's how I'm taking it

[Wingman]

I have no idea. They didn't call me and ask me for input.

BUT! This spring at a WMA meeting I did request some ATV trails be installed FOR DUCK HUNTERS on Sky Lake WMA so that y'all wouldn't have to carry your junk 1/2 mile throught briar thickets in from the road. And I suggested that a short levee that was already in place be fixed up so that folks could at least pull a small boat behind ATV to the edge of the lake for access.

I go up there last week and they are building roads big enough to land a DC-3 on. One goes straight to the lake and 4 others go straight to duck holes.

I prefer the peanut butter moonpies if anybody was wondering.

[PWS]

I have no gripe where they set these meeting’s up because I plan on attending the one pertaining to the South Delta minus a death in the family or a national emergency because hunting public lands mean that much to me. Nor do I have an issue with the $5. I think we should have to, “pay to play” and would not have issues paying that every time I got to hunt on a WMA. What I don’t agree with is taking away the allocations for the Stand By. I hunted on a draw / standby over 20 times last year and other than opening weekend and maybe 3 other time (and those were weather based) they never exceeded the slots available, both stand by and pre-draw. My question is this , If the pre-draw is not being filled/or used to its fullest extent how can you conceive that the way to get more utilization of the WMA is to cut out the standby (which has proven successful) and add more pre-draw. I work for the Government and I fully understand a rampant outbreak of the “GOOD IDEA FAIRY” but for pity sake they need to quit trying to fix what aint broke. The people who are wanting to hunt there are getting that opportunity and I am sure the numbers support that. So if what they are needing is more money because the state and federal budgets are not supporting the need, then they Just need to say it and start charging more.

[msbigdawg1234]

PWS is spot on.....

[ScottBrown]

[quote="msbigdawg1234"]PWS is spot on.....[/quote]

+1

[rawalley]

PWS is spot on.....

Spot on... I wasnt turned away once on stand bye last year... I hope this is the case this year.

[Blake Williamson]

I have no gripe where they set these meeting’s up because I plan on attending the one pertaining to the South Delta minus a death in the family or a national emergency because hunting public lands mean that much to me. Nor do I have an issue with the $5. I think we should have to, “pay to play” and would not have issues paying that every time I got to hunt on a WMA. What I don’t agree with is taking away the allocations for the Stand By. I hunted on a draw / standby over 20 times last year and other than opening weekend and maybe 3 other time (and those were weather based) they never exceeded the slots available, both stand by and pre-draw. My question is this , If the pre-draw is not being filled/or used to its fullest extent how can you conceive that the way to get more utilization of the WMA is to cut out the standby (which has proven successful) and add more pre-draw. I work for the Government and I fully understand a rampant outbreak of the “GOOD IDEA FAIRY” but for pity sake they need to quit trying to fix what aint broke. The people who are wanting to hunt there are getting that opportunity and I am sure the numbers support that. So if what they are needing is more money because the state and federal budgets are not supporting the need, then they Just need to say it and start charging more.

Couldn't say it any better myself!!!

[ScottBrown]

Bump for meetings this week.

The meetings will be from 7-9 pm on the dates and at the locations listed below:
• September 7th: North Delta WMAs at the Enid Fish Hatchery
• September 8th: South Delta WMAs at Hinds Community College – Vicksburg Branch