Timber Buyers

[G dog]

Does anyone have the names and numbers for timber buyers they have dealt with and would recomend? The land is located behind the MS river levee around Clarksdale.

[timberjack]

Contact Mississippi Forestry Commission in the county where the timber is located. They usually have a list of timber buyers for the area.

[ScottyLee]

you can usually do better using a consultant to work with them. might wanna talk to one just to see if its something they can help you with.

timber buyers try to get your timber for little of nothing. and a good consultant makes sure that doesn't happen. he'll at least tell you if bids are garbage and not worth fooling with, or if it is something to do.

Just more food for thought

[hdforester]

Thank you but Timberjack may disagree. Not trying to start nothing.

you can usually do better using a consultant to work with them. might wanna talk to one just to see if its something they can help you with.

timber buyers try to get your timber for little of nothing. and a good consultant makes sure that doesn't happen. he'll at least tell you if bids are garbage and not worth fooling with, or if it is something to do.

Just more food for thought

[timberjack]

Everyone is entitled to their opinion so here's mine, I edited it for you:

Sometimes you can do better using a consultant to work with them. might wanna talk to one just to see if its something they can help you with.

Some timber buyers may try to get your timber for little of nothing. and a good consultant might make sure that doesn't happen. he'll at least tell you if bids are garbage and not worth fooling with, or if it is something to do.

Just more food for thought

[stitch]

Hire a consulting forester and sell it on a sealed bid basis only. Make sure the forester has all the timber companies show up......they put their bis in an envelope, person paying the highest price gets the timber. It's the ONLY way to sell. That being said, if it were me.......if you can wait 4-5 years to sell you will get much more $$$$. Lumber prices suck right now

[ScottyLee]

Hire a consulting forester and sell it on a sealed bid basis only. Make sure the forester has all the timber companies show up......they put their bis in an envelope, person paying the highest price gets the timber. It's the ONLY way to sell. That being said, if it were me.......if you can wait 4-5 years to sell you will get much more $$$$. Lumber prices suck right now

yep, and a GOOD consultant will also tell you what you should be getting based on the market, if the bids are les than what's expected he'll tell you not to take it, if you can wait.

but you are exactly right, timberjack; you have to do leg work and ask people who have used consultants for the referrals and good and bad. not necessarily the first one that pops up in the phone book.

[hdforester]

Can't argue with any of that. Just like any profession there are good ones and some not so good. Word of mouth satisfied clients is the best way to find one. As for the bids in an envelope, I haven't seen or done that in 15 years or more (as a consultant). All done with faxes these days. Use to be everyone would sit around the table, drink coffee, and put your envelope in the middle. Could then make fun of each others bids. Ah, the good ole days. Lost a lot of mill capacity since then. As for sucking lumber prices, that's pretty true- depends on what you are selling. Most pine product prices are dismal. Some hardwood products are pretty decent.

Hire a consulting forester and sell it on a sealed bid basis only. Make sure the forester has all the timber companies show up......they put their bis in an envelope, person paying the highest price gets the timber. It's the ONLY way to sell. That being said, if it were me.......if you can wait 4-5 years to sell you will get much more $$$$. Lumber prices suck right now

yep, and a GOOD consultant will also tell you what you should be getting based on the market, if the bids are les than what's expected he'll tell you not to take it, if you can wait.

but you are exactly right, timberjack; you have to do leg work and ask people who have used consultants for the referrals and good and bad. not necessarily the first one that pops up in the phone book.

[Roach]

I've been going through this with some of my timber...reading the Market Bulletin it appears to me that we won't see a sizeable increase in pine for pushing 10 years.
I'm putting mine up for bids.

[timberjack]

I've been going through this with some of my timber...reading the Market Bulletin it appears to me that we won't see a sizeable increase in pine for pushing 10 years.
I'm putting mine up for bids.

Me too, there may not be a timber market in 4 or 5 years.

[timberjack]

FYI: Copied this from another forum

This timber report is from the 8-15-11 Mississippi Market Bulletin. It is very bearish on standing pine timber prices over the next 5 years and beyond.

The second quarter 2011 Mississippi
timber price report (available
at www.msucares.com/forestry)
indicates the lowest prices for pine
sawtimber and chip-n-saw (CNS)
since the beginning of the national
housing construction downturn that
started in 2006. The state average
for April, May, and June was $24.50
for pine sawtimber, representing a
decline of 49.6% from early 2005
prices during the peak of the U.S.
housing bubble.
Similarly, pine CNS also dropped
to a recent record low of $13.23,
which is a 49.9% decline for that
same time period. Mississippi’s pine
timber market is highly dependent
on U.S. residential construction, and
that market is in the worst condition
ever seen in recent
history since 1959. The
U.S. Census Bureau has
reported housing starts
and residential home
construction continues
at a sustained record low
level since 2008.
Historically, the housing
market rebounds
quickly during or just
after a recessionary period,
but that has not
been the case with this
most recent recession.
Many housing construction
forecasts point to a
resumption of normal
home construction levels by 2016.
The implications for Mississippi’s
pine sawtimber are low demand until
2016.

The other troubling concern is on
the supply side of our timber market.
How much has Mississippi’s
timber inventory increased since the
timber market began its downturn?
Obviously timber inventories are
growing. Timber harvest volumes
of pine sawtimber have continually
declined since 2005.
Mills are consuming less timber
as there is less need for lumber. Also,
more timber growers are holding
timber hoping for better prices. So
the question is once timber demand
begins to strengthen, hopefully by
2016, how long will it take to reduce
supplies of standing timber such
that timber prices begin to rise?
The point of this question is to
help the reader realize that pine
timber prices likely will not return
to 2005 levels until sometime well
after 2016. The future is always uncertain
but consider the information
discussed in this article and make
your own judgment as to the future
direction of pine timber prices.

[msudog4]

great post Timberjack.