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Re: Oak

Postby Model12 » Fri Jun 03, 2011 1:38 pm

I wish I could see an acorn...but...I'm almost sure it's a nuttall....
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Re: Oak

Postby greenheadgrimreaper » Mon Jun 06, 2011 4:31 pm

I'm almost a 100% certain it's an overcup. It's been a long time since FFA and 4H nationals, but I really believe you have an overcup.
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Re: Oak

Postby greenheadgrimreaper » Mon Jun 06, 2011 4:33 pm

It's definitely not a nuttall or post oak. Our forestry teacher always told us the overcup threw folks off thinking it was a post oak because of the "cross" pattern at the top. Also shade leaves and leaves in the sun are two totally different looking things.
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Re: Oak

Postby greenheadgrimreaper » Mon Jun 06, 2011 4:36 pm

Wait...this post is from October...wth..
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Re: Oak

Postby Wingman » Mon Jun 06, 2011 6:06 pm

Have we decided it is an oak tree? :lol:
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Re: Oak

Postby Denduke » Mon Jun 06, 2011 6:12 pm

Don't think it has been determined if it's a white or a red oak yet... :lol: :lol:
Maybe we need a Stihl and cut it down asnd see if the wood is red or white...(favorite technigue of DS "pseudo forresters")...

Guy posted once that he had a pine tree with holes/possible bug infestation...half a dozen on here said cut it down! He later found a retired forrester that said they were peckerwood holes and the tree would prolly out live him... :lol: So much for "Ask DS" :roll: :lol:
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Re: Oak

Postby greenheadgrimreaper » Tue Jun 07, 2011 8:51 pm

Overcup I tell you!
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Re: Oak

Postby novacaine » Sat Jun 11, 2011 1:26 pm

Once again, i am going with RR's call on this one (Delta Post Oak -Quercus Similis).
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Re: Oak

Postby quackheadbp » Sat Jun 11, 2011 8:20 pm

Its a Post Oak. Period.
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Re: Oak

Postby Wingman » Sat Jun 11, 2011 9:00 pm

quackheadbp wrote:Its a Post Oak. Period.
That's a rap, people. Let's move on. The King has spoken. ;)
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Re: Oak

Postby quackheadbp » Sat Jun 11, 2011 9:29 pm

Well I am a Dendrologist. :roll: :D
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Re: Oak

Postby greenheadgrimreaper » Sun Jun 12, 2011 1:31 pm

The lobes are not right for a post oak. If it were early in the season, maybe. But I am assuming these were taken in the fall. Fully mature, no way it is a post oak. Even the shade leaves would be fully formed to give the "cross" appearance. I will say the bark looks more post oak than overcup, but not enough to discredit overcup. Tree bark can be decieving. Post oak leaves are more rounded and larger than overcup. Unless Wingman has tiny midget hands it looks to be a small-medium size leaf. Also it appears to be too thin of a leaf to be a post oak. Post oak leaves are big and thick and chunky looking. Kind of how I like my women.

Post oak: leaves and bark:

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Overcup leaves and bark:

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And finally you have to look at the habitat. I am assuming with it being in the delta and on Wingman's land, it is in a bottomland area. Post oak grows in dry sandy soils, with the exception of delta post oak. And even then it better be on a ridge and in an area that still drains relatively well. Overcup oaks thrive in bottomland, alluvial type soils. Heavy clay and poorly drained areas make conditions even better. It may be a delta post oak, but I doubt it. It is definitely NOT a post oak.
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Re: Oak

Postby greenheadgrimreaper » Sun Jun 12, 2011 1:37 pm

Here are Wingman's pics on the same page for reference:


Wingman wrote:Another installment in my "what's that tree series." :D

Some type of white oak I presume. Leaves and trunk from same tree. Post oak??

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Re: Oak

Postby Plainsman04 » Sun Jun 12, 2011 3:51 pm

I change my vote and agree with greenheadgrimreaper. It's not a post oak. That was a while ago on my original post so I'm not sure what I was thinking. I've moved since then and have an overcup in my front yard and it has leaves like both in the picture. My dendro is usually pretty good but I just had a brain fart on this one.
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Re: Oak

Postby cockandlock25 » Sun Jun 12, 2011 7:31 pm

I'm going with overcup oak too.
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