River is fixing to get serious, boys!!!

[1010]

This flood could affect lands OUTSIDE the levees, too....imagine what the delta will look like, if all of the bayous, rivers, and streams are already backed outta their banks from the River flooding, THEN, another 5-6 inches of rain falls....no where for it to go, except spread across the delta.

UHHHH we are inside the levees The river is OUTSIDE the levees! Yea I would say it's definately going to effect all lands outside the levee!

Most everything in the south delta is getting some water on it now. Appx 87 ft MSL at the south end now. Theres prolly already 100k plus acres under water in the south delta now.

Now as far as you people trying to guess wether or not a certian river stage MIGHT get you or not why dont you simply have your elevations shot? No guessing then. 48 fett on and old AR City guage 3 years ago I can bet you won't be the same today! Use their conversion factors to find out the MSL levels for your area then you will know.


EX: Helena 0 nav is 141.7
take that figure then add it to the projected crest and you have the elevation in MSL that it will cover or reach.
AR City is now 96.7
Greenville is 74.9
Vicksburg is 46.2

So if you are in the Greenville area say on Woodstock and Greenvill is expecting a 60 ft river then everything under 140ft land elevation in that vicinity will be under water! Don't think there is much land on any of those islands that high!

UHHHH I think the river is inside (between) the levees, we are outside (not between) the levees, At least that is the way i see it.
How bout river Side and land Side

X2 haha!! WTH

[Gant]

Br59 I hope some land stays out at woodstock. I don't think any of the houses have gotten water in the past. From what I understand, woodstock is one of the highest points on the river in that area. I would hate to lose all of those big deer we have raised for years. I guess we will find out pretty soon.

[TODO]

Br59 I hope some land stays out at woodstock. I don't think any of the houses have gotten water in the past. From what I understand, woodstock is one of the highest points on the river in that area. I would hate to lose all of those big deer we have raised for years. I guess we will find out pretty soon.

Its been my experience that the deer will swim out to higher ground and come right back when it goes down. My club is one of the lowest around and we flood nearly every year. We have a pile of deer. Now on some islands and places they might not be able to find any higher ground before they drown. I got a feeling that this flood is gonna take awhile to overcome. I always heard my old man say that the 73 flood changed the woods a lot. If this is several feet higher, then who knows.

[stang67]

I think duration of this flood is going to be the most damaging and unique part of it.

[Jelly]

Br59 I hope some land stays out at woodstock. I don't think any of the houses have gotten water in the past. From what I understand, woodstock is one of the highest points on the river in that area. I would hate to lose all of those big deer we have raised for years. I guess we will find out pretty soon.

Its been my experience that the deer will swim out to higher ground and come right back when it goes down. My club is one of the lowest around and we flood nearly every year. We have a pile of deer. Now on some islands and places they might not be able to find any higher ground before they drown. I got a feeling that this flood is gonna take awhile to overcome. I always heard my old man say that the 73 flood changed the woods a lot. If this is several feet higher, then who knows.

+1

[Hambone]

My experience is that the deer head right over the Levee at our place and come right back after the water leaves, no worse for wear. The turkeys are a different story - there will not be a 2011 hatch. Fortunately, the 2010 hatch was good.

[deltadukman]

Guy I know talked to some COE guys and they are fairly worried about the integrity of the Steele Bayou structure.....roughly how high is a pivot?

[Gant]

I just got word that if it goes to 61ft the entire island will be under. It could be devastating for our deer. Our deer can't just walk over a levee. They have to swim off the island, and you hope they swim toward the levee and not the wrong way. Well mother nature will take care of things.

[no fly zone]

The effects on the wildlife will all depend on how long it stays up. 2008 water didnt get off until late august. No vegetation or browse in the river bottoms all summer equaled huntin sucked behind the levee and alot of does didnt drop fawns where there was little to no food. Deer will come back if there s something to eat during the growing season.

Hopefully water will come up and go down in a reasonable time frame but with as high as its gonna get, and predicted rainfall looks doubtful.

[Jelly]

Black Bayou radio collared some deer years back and they all went outside the levee when it flooded and they all came back. they are smart

[juliodux]

What is the latest predictions.

[Double R 2]

MISSISSIPPI RIVER STAGES TO SET 75-YEAR RECORDS
(Stoneville) --- According to current projections by May 20, Mississippi River stages will reach their highest flood elevation since the 1927 flood at the Vicksburg gauge (chart attached). It should be noted that the 2011 information is from Sunday, April 24, National Weather Service forecasts which have not yet been fully adjusted for the 5” – 9” accumulation of rainfall that is projected across the Arkansas and Ohio River basin later this week. It is estimated that this rainfall accumulation could account for another May, 2011 adjustment at Vicksburg, of possibly as much as 1.0’ – 1.5’.
“According to our information from the Corps of Engineers, there will be a significant flood fight on the Mississippi River levees throughout the Mississippi Delta, but there is no immediate cause for concern relative to levee failure. A flood of this elevation should always be considered extremely serious, since we experience under-seepage which weakens the levee in all major floods such as this, “stated Travis Satterfield, Chairman of the Delta Council Executive Committee.
Other than the river-side developments of hunting clubs and other structures built on the west side of the Mississippi River levee, the most vulnerable of Delta properties are those in the South Delta which are not protected by backwater levees, on the east side of the Whittington Auxiliary Channel along the Yazoo River. Specifically, there are areas between Satartia and Yazoo City, which includes the Panther Swamp National Wildlife Refuge, highly productive cropland in the area, county roads and the Wolf Lake area. These areas are predicted to experience 2’ – 3’ more water than existed in the April 2008 high water event which inundated the same areas.
The river side stage elevations at the Steele Bayou outlet will be 103’, as compared to 100.1’ in 2008. The current crest projection for the Yazoo backwater area on the land side at the Steele Bayou gate will be 91’.
“A Mississippi River flood of this magnitude is always unsettling in the Mississippi Delta and we encourage everyone to monitor these stage elevation forecasts daily, as they will be adjusted regularly between now and May 15,” stated Satterfield, the Bolivar County farm leader.
Official reports from the Corps of Engineers state that Sardis, Enid and Grenada Lakes are in a good position relative to storage capacity for rainfall events that might occur throughout the Yazoo basin in the coming weeks. Until the precipitation is measured after the rainfall event later this week, it is currently unknown about the storage capacity of Arkabutla Reservoir. Currently, Arkabutla is positioned to manage its storage and the forecast rainfall later this week, which is scheduled to fall over its watershed.

Historical MS River Flood Data
Gauge 1927 1973 2008 2011*
Helena 56.7 50.1 46.9 51.5
Arkansas City No Data 47.6 45.3 47.5
Greenville 54.6 58.2 57.3 59
Vicksburg 58.4 51.6 51 52.5
Steele Bayou (riverside) 100.1 103
*Projection based on 4/24/2011 data, to be revised daily.


Date of Crest
Gauge 1927 1973 2008 2011*
Helena 4/26/1927 5/11/1973 4/18/2008 5/10/2011
Arkansas City No Data 5/12/1973 4/16/2008 5/12/2011
Greenville 4/21/1927 5/14/1973 4/17/2008 5/12/2011
Vicksburg 5/4/1927 5/13/1973 4/20/2008 5/13/2011
Steele Bayou (riverside) 4/23/2008 N/A
*Projection based on 4/24/2011 data, to be revised daily.

Delta Council Clarification:
It should be noted that these are main stem MS River floods and should not be compared to 1973 or 1991 for South Delta backwater flooding since current projections for Backwater area flooding are at 91’.
Also, it should be emphasized that these stage elevations on the MS River will adversely affect those South Delta lands which are on the east side of the Whittington Auxiliary Channel in the Satartia-Rocky Bayou area (Wolf Lake crest elevation was 100’ in 2008 and is predicted to reach 102’-103’ elevation in 2011). The crest will reach Vicksburg between May 15th and May 20th, as of this printing.

[deltadukman]

Ramset, are yall preping WB for water? Call me crazy, but Im going up to Holly Bluff to put my stuff up this week and bring some stuff home. I've got a bad feeling about the interior Delta.

[tombstone]

The talk here is absolutely crazy. It is getting difficult to tell fact from fiction. Mandatory evacuations for residents behind the levee, moving all livestock from levee, cutting power, people loading stuff into 18 wheelers, and a super saturated levee all add to the high level of anxiety.

[Deltaquack]

The talk here is absolutely crazy. It is getting difficult to tell fact from fiction. Mandatory evacuations for residents behind the levee, moving all livestock from levee, cutting power, people loading stuff into 18 wheelers, and a super saturated levee all add to the high level of anxiety.

They called me and asked if they could cut my power yesterday. I went three days in a row.......and the water was 1 1/2-2 foot higher each day........moving faster than the NOAA website was saying. It was supposed to go over our road today.....but when I got there last night it was moving over it in two spots.........an hour later when I left..........it had filled in a 100 yard of previously unflooded road.