The last detail - overlooked

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The last detail - overlooked

Postby Anatidae » Mon Dec 06, 2010 8:48 pm

Do you have a product that you use, that is almost perfect.......but there's one little detail that makes you wonder why the company didn't go ahead and finish the design so it WOULD be perfect?

It's almost like they ran out of time......or got tired of working on it and said ......OK, it's good enough - let'er rip!

You don't have to name any here - and I know I probably couldn't do any better, but ........man, they were THAT close to having a perfect product.......and just wrapped it up and put it on the shelf.

There are a lot of companies out there that turn an idea out, half-baked......and let the marketing department make the sale. What ever happened to stuff that was so good that word of mouth was the best advertisement? Let the product speak for itself.
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Re: The last detail - overlooked

Postby Roach » Mon Dec 06, 2010 9:58 pm

I thought this was going to be about forgeting to put the boody wipe in your blind bag!
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Re: The last detail - overlooked

Postby missed mallards » Mon Dec 06, 2010 10:33 pm

Anatidae wrote:

There are a lot of companies out there that turn an idea out, half-baked......and let the marketing department make the sale. What ever happened to stuff that was so good that word of mouth was the best advertisement? Let the product speak for itself.


I believe you know the answer to your question.

First: Marketing
Marketing is awesome. With the right marketing, one can portray a decent product to that of one you can't live without. Were is the need to tie up extra cost when the customers will pay good money for something that is close?

Demand: Economics
In most cases, consumers are looking/demanding the latest and greatest. It's a status symbol for the most part and therefor, doesn't always have to be 'perfect' as it's close enough.
Also, to go along with it, businesses may understand what they lack, and don't follow through for a reason. Say for instance your G&H Decoys, how many dozen have you had to buy to replace the one's you bought back in the first days? Yes, G&H, may look at it as the long haul, but remeber american greed, get what you can, when you can, and don't plan for longetivity. If it works for those who demand it, feels their needs, and turns a profit, why invest more money? It's all about money, plan and simple.

The one question you asked could have a book written discussing why manufactors/people/whomever don't. I'm 100% sure there are plenty. I do wish one day some company producers something that is 'perfect', but I'm not holding my breath. Good topic to discuss over a campfire with a cold drink, but that talk could take a week, and a few gallons of some good home brew :lol: . Note: If you have found the "Perfect" drink, I've been known to get quite long winded LOL.
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Re: The last detail - overlooked

Postby Wingman » Mon Dec 06, 2010 10:34 pm

Yeah, game wardens. Apparently "the company" got most of us nearly perfect then just said to heck with it and put us on the public shelf. Then they marketed us to duck hunters (in the name of saving dux for future generations) who will fall for any gimmick and now we've gone bad. Kinda like "the machines" in Terminator. Where is John Conner now?
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Re: The last detail - overlooked

Postby Bonecollecter1111 » Tue Dec 07, 2010 10:57 am

dang wingy, don't start getting a thin skin on us now.
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Re: The last detail - overlooked

Postby Anatidae » Tue Dec 07, 2010 1:03 pm

:lol:

Thermos: why doesn't Stanley make their thermos in a powder-coated camouflage finish? I tried another brand and am tired of tepid coffee an hour after it comes out of the pot and a lid that allows a teaspoon of brew to spill out after the cap/lid is supposedly closed. I never had those problems with a Stanley but thought a camouflaged thermos would be nice. The assumption was that it would keep stuff hot, with a lid that doesn't allow stuff to leak-out when it's closed.

Prime examples of good ideas (a push-button spout/stopper) that ends-up 'half-baked' (it leaks)..........or a Stanley thermos with a bright, shiney, silver cap (i.e. Not available in camouflage for a huge market - hunters).
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Re: The last detail - overlooked

Postby mfalkner » Tue Dec 07, 2010 1:15 pm

Randy, I sprayed my Stanley thermos with the spray-on bedliner type paint. Matte finish, no skid. Just makes the coffee taste a little like retread. Now, a pushbutton thingy would rock.

I was thinking my iPhone.... But if they made it a perfect device, then people wouldn't upgrade every couple of years.
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Re: The last detail - overlooked

Postby Anatidae » Tue Dec 07, 2010 9:05 pm

Great idea, Mike - I'll try that if Santa brings me a Stanley .........(hint, hint :D )

(Santa also brought me the camoflaged thermos I thought I had to try a few years back)

The camo unit will go on walk-in hunts......the No. 1 Thermos in the World ('Stanley') will be for the boat.
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Re: The last detail - overlooked

Postby Blackduck » Tue Dec 07, 2010 9:12 pm

Four wheeler with a throttle on the left. It is awful hard to run and gun using your left hand to push a right hand throttle. :wink:

GHG layout blind that doesn't lock in the open position. The rear support floats forward when mine is placed in water. One locking pin or cotter pin is all that would be needed.

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Re: The last detail - overlooked

Postby Anatidae » Tue Dec 07, 2010 9:32 pm

Blackduck wrote:GHG layout blind that doesn't lock in the open position. The rear support floats forward when mine is placed in water. One locking pin or cotter pin is all that would be needed.


THANK YOU!!! - that's exactly what I'm talking about - with as much finger-pinchin' pins and alignment nightmares trying to get those things set-up as it is.......what's 2 more pins to keep the headrest in?........and 2 more blood blisters on each thumb to go along with the pre-dawn cuss-fest? :shock:

I just ran self-tapping metal stud framing screws in mine......and Anne's headrests.

And they have a whole pro-staff that claims set-up is quick and easy........and it's easily transportable (as long as the headrest doesn't fall out on the way to the 'X').

(Needless to say I'm in the market for another ground blind)

And how bout the stubble straps that you could stick the 'meat'-end of a baseball bat through?
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Re: The last detail - overlooked

Postby mfalkner » Tue Dec 07, 2010 9:43 pm

Thermos = genius. Keeps hot stuff hot and cold stuff cold. How it know?

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Re: The last detail - overlooked

Postby donia » Wed Dec 08, 2010 8:50 am

Anatidae wrote::lol:

Thermos: why doesn't Stanley make their thermos in a powder-coated camouflage finish? I tried another brand and am tired of tepid coffee an hour after it comes out of the pot and a lid that allows a teaspoon of brew to spill out after the cap/lid is supposedly closed. I never had those problems with a Stanley but thought a camouflaged thermos would be nice. The assumption was that it would keep stuff hot, with a lid that doesn't allow stuff to leak-out when it's closed.

Prime examples of good ideas (a push-button spout/stopper) that ends-up 'half-baked' (it leaks)..........or a Stanley thermos with a bright, shiney, silver cap (i.e. Not available in camouflage for a huge market - hunters).



http://www.shopstanley-pmi.com/detail/TCL+10-00164-000 i've got this one and it is a dull gray (i took a sharpie to the visible orange ring to black it out). unscrew the top a revolution or so and pour (channels in the top let you pour w/out taking the stopper completely out)...i hate the push button spouts! fill it with boiling water, put the stopper back in, and let it sit for 15-20mins to temper it and it will keep coffee, or whatever, hot all day and still relatively warm the next morning.
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Re: The last detail - overlooked

Postby JaMak84 » Wed Dec 08, 2010 11:50 am

Blackduck wrote:Four wheeler with a throttle on the left. It is awful hard to run and gun using your left hand to push a right hand throttle. :wink:


along those same lines, why doesn't someone make a model with a twist throttle or jet ski type trottle? On long cold rides, you really can build up some soreness in your thumb. They make aftermarket twist adapters, but wouldn't it be a better product from the manufacturer.
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Re: The last detail - overlooked

Postby Wingman » Wed Dec 08, 2010 1:43 pm

Anatidae wrote:
Blackduck wrote:GHG layout blind that doesn't lock in the open position. The rear support floats forward when mine is placed in water. One locking pin or cotter pin is all that would be needed.
THANK YOU!!! - that's exactly what I'm talking about - with as much finger-pinchin' pins and alignment nightmares trying to get those things set-up as it is.......what's 2 more pins to keep the headrest in?........and 2 more blood blisters on each thumb to go along with the pre-dawn cuss-fest? :shock: I just ran self-tapping metal stud framing screws in mine......and Anne's headrests.And they have a whole pro-staff that claims set-up is quick and easy........and it's easily transportable (as long as the headrest doesn't fall out on the way to the 'X'). (Needless to say I'm in the market for another ground blind) And how bout the stubble straps that you could stick the 'meat'-end of a baseball bat through?


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Re: The last detail - overlooked

Postby Shmelton » Wed Dec 08, 2010 2:25 pm

You know if the buddy heater had a completely squared off wire cage it would make a great place to heat up biscuits, or warm up coffee. you can make it work the way they are now, but it would be nice if there wasn't that angle.

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