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intelligence debate terrorists on bloomberg

Postby donia » Sun Sep 26, 2010 1:53 pm

this is a debate on bloomberg on whether or not terrorist should be treated as enemy combatants or as criminals....as in should they be given the criminal rights to a lawyer and trial or should they be tried in a military venue. the two for criminal rights are lawyers who 1)has represented many terrorists captured and housed in gitmo and 2)was the lawyer for ok city bomber timothy mcvey....
the one that represented many in gitmo stated that if he captured bin laden that he would NOT torture him and that if it caused a happening that there were scores of american deaths (as happened on 9/11) that he would be ok with that, as long as bin laden was given his rights to trial :evil: :evil: and he is a lt. colonel in the air force.

the overwhelming facts have been put out there that 95% of the terrorist leaders and perpetrators of terrorism against us are gitmo alumni and the opposing debate still says that everthing that gitmo represents is wrong and that all should be released and gitmo closed, permenantly.

....and some people wonder how we have gotten to the point that we are hogtied when it comes to terrorist and terrorism against America....

there was a vote before the debate and it was almost equal with for, against, and undecided...afterwards, another vote was taken and the undecided votes all leaned toward criminals instead of enemy combatants. i'm not sure why i was surprised at the outcome, since it is bloomberg...lambasting all that is republican (the 2 for enemy combatant status were republican and the 2 for criminal status were democrats).


*another thing that was said, that kind of haunts me - one that was pro enemy combatat was a former head of the cia, made it as his final statement...(paraphrased) "for far too many Americans, the drive to the office on sept. 12, '01...was no different than the drive to the office on sept. 10, '01, and that is the most dangerous way of thinking we could have." in other words, too many think that it isn't possibly going to happen, again.

ok, i gotta stop now, my pressure is climbin a lil too high
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Re: intelligence debate terrorists on bloomberg

Postby LostBoy » Sun Sep 26, 2010 8:38 pm

Just kill 'em. Can't try a corpse.
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Re: intelligence debate terrorists on bloomberg

Postby jacksbuddy » Mon Sep 27, 2010 8:55 am

Ok, maybe I'm just a little ignorant here. I mean, I only have 2 college degrees, so I'm really not the smartest person in the world; BUT - -

If the terrorist is a U.S. Citizen, doesn't he/she deserve to be treated as an accussed citizen in the courts? i.e. - Timothy McVey was provided a jury trial, this 'jihad jane' sk@nc should get the same, etc.

And if the terrorist is NOT a U.S. Citizen, why should they be afforded any of these such rights? I thought that the Constitution to the United States of America, only pertains to and offers protection for Citizens of The United States of America.

If the Constitution applies to everyone, regardless of their citizenship, then shouldn't the laws of other countries apply to everyone regardless of their citizenship? If so, I want to abide by the financial laws of the tax free Bahamas. :wink:

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Re: intelligence debate terrorists on bloomberg

Postby donia » Mon Sep 27, 2010 9:21 am

nor am i, but we both see it as common sense, or what i feel is common sense on the issue.
the criminal side argued that America should take the moral high ground to set an example for the rest of the world...... :evil: .....for what? to show that you can come in, impose you're foreign ideals and priciples on us, be it in a passive or aggressive fashion, and we'll bow down and comply? BS!!!

we're in the proverbial "handbasket" and well on our way if we don't do something to either bust the basket or change its course
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