One Thing About Kerry

[Poke]

Hey Ben..seeing as how it seems your the man with the "avatar" know how..think you could cook me up something along the line of a right wing /neocon /democrat baiting / republican supporting / waterfowl hunting addicted / manly man logo?

Any effort put forth will be greatly appreciated...if you choose to tackle this...be sure to use your humor.

[Poke]

Hey thanks man...I think it's entirely appropriate from your point of view.

Now how do I attach that sucker to my name? I'm functionally illiterate on PC use.

Baboons have mothers too you know...Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

I'm suprised you did'nt use the south end. Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Thanks again for going to the effort.


hold the pressess...I figured it out.

[mdb1]

Bufflehead-'stupid white men' was a reference to a book by Michael Moore, not a shot at any particular individual. Thanks for promoting Gephardt to the senate, I thought Mo. had two republican senators (Bond & Talent).

[Po Monkey Lounger]

My bad, Gephart is just a representative. No matter, he is still a joke.

Didn't catch the Michael Moore reference. I have never had a desire to read his books, watch his movies, or perpetuate and support his lunacy. A Southern man don't need him around anyhow.

[tunica]

heres a little known fact Most Vietnam vetrans did not die because they were Flag totin Republicans Most died for something alot less complicated. They died because they were trying to keep their buddy from getting killed. IF you think I forgive jane for sitting at a table with POW's and calling them war criminals well hell aint froze yet. Do I think the goverment told us the truth No...But forgive any of them I can't its personal.

[mudsucker]

Just read all the rants for the first time today. Benny and the Jets, It has nothing to do with "loving Bush". It is a damn shame what "Hanoi Jane" did in N. Vietnam. Treason more like it. "Bagadad Swawn Penn" is another one. What makes the leftist of hollywood think that we give a chit about what they think. Many people may share their views but do not have the "platform"(media exposure) to get it out there. It just makes me not want to support their movies or their bottom line. I think it is an abuse of or manipulation of "free" press! Screw Hollywood and the likes of Jane and Shawn!!!!

[gyver]

ww1 and 2, korea, vietnam.
about a million US soldiers lost.
libya
iran hostage situation
north korea making nukes
Democrats in the whitehouse.

who's the warmongers ?
when reagan took office khomeini and khadafy dropped out of sight.
saddam got wupped all the way back to baghdad and then jr just flat out kicked his booty
north korea is saying hey maybe we should cooperate now like libya and iran are so as we don't get the sheet kicked out of us to.
THE U.S. DOES NOT HAVE TO HAVE THE FRENCH, RUSSIAN OR GERMAN'S APPROVAL TO KICK A$$AND TAKE NAMES NO MORE !!!

an instructor of mine in college told the class one night that the higher the education you receive the more likely you are to vote republican.
as far as the issues go the republicans say study hard, get a job and make something of yourself.
the democrats say take it easy we'll lower the bar for you ,and raise everyones taxes to pay your bills.just let "us" make all your decisions for you. sort of like the communist. heil
as far as big money goes the democrats get the majority of their money from large donors, 1,000,000 to 1,000,000 while the republicans get their's from alot of people dropping $20 donations.

[mallardhunter]

He voted for the recent War with IRAQ, but now thinks we should not have gone to war.

He has said very clearly numerous times that when he voted for that war,
Bush told them there was an imminent threat, (a lie) and that he had WMD's (another lie) and that we would do this with a coilition, (another lie) and that the UN would have a big role in it (another Bush lie)

If that is indeed what Kerry said, at least he told a partial truth, which is better than a total lie. Kerry's own party members had been saying that WMD's were real and a real threat for years.

There was ex-(and impeached) president Clinton

"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998.

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998.

Clinton's advisers

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999.

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

Al (the inventor of the internet) Gore

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002.

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002.

Ted (Mary Jo who?) Kennedy

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002.

Hillary (I have no memory of that) Clinton

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

Various Democrat colleagues of Kerry's

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998.

"There is no doubt that . Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."
Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL,) and others, Dec, 5, 2001.

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them."
Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002.


"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002.

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years . We also should remember we have alway s underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
Sen. Jay Rockerfeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002,

"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do."
Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002.

And, of course, John Kerry, before he was a candidate and decided that it was Bush who misled America on this issue.

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others Oct. 9, 1998.

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force - if necessary - to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002.

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction. "[W]ithout question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation. And now he has continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real ...
Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003.


And now Kerry wants us to believe that it was Bush who misled the American people.

[your-pal-al]

don't you just love the way they put a spin on this now to make it all george bush. either they have a short memory or are very stupid.

al

[mallardhunter]

don't you just love the way they put a spin on this now to make it all george bush. either they have a short memory or are very stupid.al

I don't think they are stupid or have a short memory at all. They merely assume that the voters are stupid enough to lap it all up - and, oddly about 1/2 of them do.

Here's a few things the Demos will not bring up.

The stuff you don't hear about on CNN?

Let's start with electrical power production in Iraq. The day after the war was declared over, there was nearly 0 power being generated in Iraq. Just 45 days later, in a partnership between the Army, the Iraqi people and some private companies, there are now 3200 megawatts (Mw) of power being produced daily, 1/3 of the total national potential of 8000 Mw. Downed power lines (big stuff, 400 Kilovolt (Kv) and 132 Kv) are being repaired and are about 70 percent complete.

Then there is water purification. In central Iraq between Baghdad and Mosul, home of the 4th Infantry Division, water treatment was spotty at best. The facilities existed, but the controls were never implemented. Simple chemicals like Chlorine for purification and Alum (Aluminum Sulfate) for sediment settling (the Tigris River is about as clear as the Mississippi River) were in very short supply or not used at all. When chlorine was used, it was metered by the scientific method of guessing.

So some people got pool water to drink and some people got water with lots of little things floating around in it. We are slowly but surely solving that. Contracts for repairs to facilities that are only 50 percent or less operational are being let, chemicals are being delivered, although we don't have the metering problem solved yet ( ... but again, it's only been 45 days).

How about oil and fuel? Well the war was all about oil wasn't it? You bet it was. It was all about oil for the Iraqi people! They have no other income, they produce nothing else. Oil is 95 percent of the Iraqi GNP. For this nation to survive, it must sell oil.

The Refinery at Bayji is [operating] at 75 percent of capacity producing gasoline. The crude pipeline between Kirkuk (Oil Central) and Bayji will be repaired by tomorrow (2 June). LPG, what all Iraqis use to cook and heat with, is at 103 percent of normal production and we, the U.S. Army, are ensuring it is being distributed fairly to all Iraqis.

You have to remember that only three months ago, all these things were used by the Saddam regime as weapons against the population to keep them in line. If your town misbehaved, gasoline shipments stopped, LPG pipelines and trucks stopped, water was turned off, power was turned off.

Now, until exports start, every drop of gasoline produced goes to the Iraqi people. Crude oil is being stored and the country is at 75 percent capacity right now. They need to export or stop pumping soon, so thank the U.N. for the delay.

All LPG goes to the Iraqi people everywhere. Water is being purified as best it can be, but at least its running all the time to everyone.

Are we still getting shot at? Yep.

Are American soldiers still dying? Yep, about one a day from my outfit, the 4th Infantry Division, most in accidents, but dead is dead.

If we are doing all this for the Iraqis, why are they shooting at us?

The general Iraqi population isn't shooting at us. There are still bad guys who won't let go of the old regime. They are Ba'ath party members (Read Nazi Party, but not as nice) who have known nothing but and supported nothing but the regime all of their lives. These are the thugs for the regime who caused many to disappear in the night. They have no other skills. At least the Nazis [in Germany] had jobs and a semblance of a national infrastructure that they could go back to after the war, as plumbers, managers, engineers, etc. These people have no skills but terror. They are simply applying their skills ... and we are applying ours.

The above is 8 months old and is from a US soldier writing home.

[gyver]

was watching the history channel one night. said desert storm 1 was pretty much about oil to. when iraq took kuwait they seized a very large oil reserve. the next country would have been saudi arabia, who happens to have the largest reserve in the world. now if saddam had control of all of that he could pretty much control fuel prices all over the world. 3,4,5$ a gallon for the cheap stuff. tanks, planes and copters need alot of fuel to run, if you can't keep 'em running you can't use them right? right.
we did the world a bigger favor by taking his but down than anybody could ever know.
look at the domino effect it's created. north korea is willing to abandon it's nuclear program along with libya, and iran.
the clinton admin. overlooked all that stuff right along with enron and other big companies.

W 4 more years.

[BoogaBottom]

Hey BEN A...how bout some BUSH IS A MOW RAWN avatars or logos for the smart ones on here ?

[DuckyDan]

Why does everyone love to hate Bush so much? Give me some good logic on why Kerry, or any other Democrat, is more qualified and let me argue my point.

I think some of you die hard Democrats have been reading some of Karl Marx's writings.