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Re: big island below mayerville

Postby Wildfowler » Fri Oct 16, 2009 7:15 am

quack_a_tack wrote:Not sure how the rules apply to La. I asked a GW when I got checked opening morning on an oxbow how they establish what is legal and what is trespassing. He told me that legally they can't do much until the River was at flood stage. You are safe hunting most water along the main channel of any lake or river. How ever once the River hits flood stage all backwater is conscidered private anything over 100 or so yards off the channel is considered by Ms state law as trespassing. He also said that Arkansas was the same way but nothing about La.


It sounds like you're answer was given by a MS game warden. The lands on the LA side of the river around this particular area are East Carrol Parish, LA which is where the controversy began.

If you hunt in LA, in particular East Carrol Parish, the local sheriff will issue you a trespassing violation.


It probably won't be too much longer before some "fellow" duck hunter pizzes off the wrong MS river landowner, who's willing to take it to court. I'm sure the same federal court ruling that sided with the LA landowner will come into play in any MS case.

I would encourage anyone who is ever asked to leave while hunting in a Miss side of the river situation, to please give strong consideration to leaving. Whatever ruling that may come about on along the MS river could possibly be used against hunters in "inland" oxbow lake scenarios.
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Re: big island below mayerville

Postby hntrpat1 » Fri Oct 16, 2009 8:15 am

Ahole landowners around here already have GW in their pockets and you WILL get a ticket even if the river is below flood stage.
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Re: big island below mayerville

Postby LODI QUACKER » Fri Oct 16, 2009 9:03 am

WHere is around here??
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Re: big island below mayerville

Postby quack_a_tack » Fri Oct 16, 2009 10:25 am

It was a MS GW I have never hunted in La just thought maybe someone on here use what I was told to keep them from getting a fine. He did say that you are not legal if you hunt in a river flooded field or, if you don't use some common sense when hunting the river. They i guess expect hunters to know when to consider land private. Just tryin to prevent someone from a ticket, passsing on the info I was told.
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Re: big island below mayerville

Postby Agua » Fri Oct 16, 2009 11:38 am

Been a while since I looked at that stuff, but wasn't the ruling on that Mississippi River case that there was no federal common law right to hunt or fish on navigable waters? Mississippi has common law hunting/fishing rights on navigable waters.
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Re: big island below mayerville

Postby hntrpat1 » Fri Oct 16, 2009 12:56 pm

They give you a ticket and say we have to side with the landowner. And the judge has to decide who is in the right. It's a big scheme aginst the little man
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Re: big island below mayerville

Postby teul2 » Fri Oct 16, 2009 9:50 pm

First off, there are like 5 islands south of mayersville.
I know for a fact that they are private, as 2 are in a friends camp and in MS. Another is in a diffrent camp and is LA. So, forget it.

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Re: big island below mayerville

Postby redneckduck » Sat Oct 17, 2009 5:57 pm

dang staying home, we are going to shoot them til we die. those islands are duck haven
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Re: big island below mayerville

Postby quack_a_tack » Sat Oct 17, 2009 6:10 pm

I say go ahead and shoot it if ya want but don't be bit*#ing when ya get a ticket.
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Re: big island below mayerville

Postby teul2 » Sat Oct 17, 2009 8:09 pm

I'll call my buddy and let him know you are on the way.

I am sure, as much as he dislikes green jeans, he'll still have Mr. Greenjeans waiting on ya.
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Re: big island below mayerville

Postby Robcat » Sat Oct 17, 2009 8:42 pm

Well said....well said!
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Re: big island below mayerville

Postby sondance » Mon Oct 19, 2009 6:06 pm

This flooded boundary line topic is like Mudsuckers Bronco post in the classifieds. It won't go away. :? :shock:
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Re: big island below mayerville

Postby bpinson1 » Tue Oct 20, 2009 4:24 pm

Sounds like internet trolling to me, same question being asked by Redneckduck on MDWFP forums.
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Re: big island below mayerville

Postby BR549 » Tue Oct 20, 2009 7:44 pm

hntrpat1 wrote:Ahole landowners around here already have GW in their pockets and you WILL get a ticket even if the river is below flood stage.


Well first off let me say this: If it were your land out there you would feel differently about it!

Secondly What makes you think you have a right to anyone eles's property that they paid their hard earned dollars for wether it's dry ground or 15 feet underwater! That would be just like saying well just because you are not home but one or two days a month I can just help myself to anything you got cause you are not using it!

Third: I happen to be one of those landowners on that river and I take offense to that! What makes anyone think that just because you own property around a body of water that fluctuates you don't have the same rights given to anyone else in this country? It's the freakin law for god's sake! If the law says you are tresspassing and the Supreme court of the United States has already upheld it (on more than one occassion) then why keep crying about it! Who died and made you God? You think someone owes you something? The law enforcement officers are just upholding the law of the land. If someone signs an affidavit against you for tresspass and they can show title to it then the officer must do his job! I firmly believe that when you get outside of the main body of water in a river or lake or oxbow if you want to call it that, that is not normally covered in water then you are tresspassing! When you cross the high bank of the river, or when you go up into a cut on one of those islands on the river. Same thing, you are going somewhere outside the normal navigation of that body of water. That makes you guilty of tresspass if you don't own it! END OF DISCUSSION!

Now I know this varies from area to area and possibly from state to state, but that doesn't mean it's not the law of the land! Just because someone sticks their head in an oven and turns the gas on doesn't mean it's safe or right to do does it? This debate has been going on for years and probably will still be going on when we are dead and gone but for now and untill the high court of this land says otherwise that's it! This was going on back in Illinois back in the early 90's I know. On the Mississippi River at that! This is nothing new. Same old sh*t just a different song and verse!
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Re: big island below mayerville

Postby hntrpat1 » Tue Oct 20, 2009 8:52 pm

Law says as long as its below flood plain which is 48 foot here, I was hunting at 32 feet so tell me how I was tresspassing. That's like saying people can't be on the water in front of my camp (which is on the same piece of water) when the water is below 48. Maybe I should call the GW when somebody is fishing "my land" or riding their boats on "my land". Come on man it's a load of crap and you know it.

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