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Postby Greenhead22 » Tue Nov 06, 2001 1:03 pm

benelliboy, first off, Anat has a killer lease in La, and I have the same in MS. Jay gave out too much info on the spot. All he had to say was, I have the possibility of getting a lease in Yazoo Co., how's the duck hunting. But he started talking about the field, DU working on it, etc. I know a lot of people in Yazoo City, I made two phone calls and found out where the lease is, but with having respect for Jay I will not tell where it is. I hunt 25 minutes from Yazoo City, and when I'm killing ducks they are too. I'd say go get the lease before someone else goes in behind your back, my .02 cents!
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Postby take'm » Tue Nov 06, 2001 1:57 pm

All I was trying to do was figure out how good of an area this spot is located in. Nobody can get the lease, I already have it.Thanks GH 22 for not telling everyone more than I already have. Didnt know that I was commiting such an awful sin by asking for some help. Heck, it aint public land so I didnt figure everybody would get off by me asking a few questions about MY lease.
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Postby mallardchaser » Tue Nov 06, 2001 2:39 pm

gh22 and anatidae (sp) who gives a sheeit if jay tells where the field is. it doesn't have anything to do w/ either of you. if he was telling where your fields were or a specific spot about a public place that's different. you sound like a bunch of women. everyone knows hillside, panther , yazoo, malmaison, lake george, and many others have fair to good duck hunting, why whine when someone brings it up. no one is asking for specifics. and if they are they will not get it.
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Postby mallardchaser » Tue Nov 06, 2001 2:40 pm

jay:
i've hunted in that area for a while and know a lot of people up there. i'll be glad to check on your spot w/ some of the locals.
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Postby jbeam17 » Tue Nov 06, 2001 3:47 pm

well said!
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Postby Greenhead22 » Tue Nov 06, 2001 4:03 pm

MC, it's the same thing, putting info on the board about public and private land. I'd say there's about 75 people that post on the board, and 325 others lurking on the outside waiting for someone to give away info on a public hunting area or an available lease on private land. It only takes a couple of phone calls to the right people to find out all the info you need. Jay I'm glad that you went ahead and got the lease, otherwise you were taking a big risk and possibly waiting too late to do so.
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Postby BrianB » Tue Nov 06, 2001 4:28 pm

If that field is partially harvested, then you can not legally hunt it. By the federal guidelines, it is considered baiting. Might want to think about that.
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Postby Anatidae » Tue Nov 06, 2001 4:50 pm

Sounds good, Dan. I'll get your phone # 'fore I leave, so we can keep in touch thru the season.

Hey Jay, I don't begrudge you anything.....I'm real happy you found a spot and hope you have a great season. I'm not tryin' to put anybody down....I'm just tryin' to help ya'll see how easy it'll be to loose a 'spot' when someone else finds out about it and out-bids you, next year. I hope I'm wrong, but wouldn't be surprised if you only hold this place for one season.....enjoy it while it lasts.

Tell ya what....just to show ya'll how sincere I am 'bout NOT steppin' on any more toes, I won't say another thing about this subject....how's that? Ya'll are big boys.....do whatever you want. I'll mind my own business....Have a good season. [img]images/smiles/icon_wink.gif[/img]
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Postby Stillhunter » Tue Nov 06, 2001 5:31 pm

NO DUCKS IN THE ZOO (YAZOO) GO SOMEWHERE ELSE! [img]images/smiles/icon_mad.gif[/img] [img]images/smiles/icon_mad.gif[/img] [img]images/smiles/icon_mad.gif[/img] [img]images/smiles/icon_mad.gif[/img]
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Postby Meeka » Tue Nov 06, 2001 6:28 pm

Anatadae, sorry to see you leave this post. They didn't like your approach, so I'll try the opposite.

Please do not discuss any public area here! (I dont hunt any of those places cause there aint no ducks there and its too crowded, so dont get any ideas) Mallardchaser, this means YOU. Just do me a favor, huh? I know you think this, that or the other is common knowledge, but how about letting them get it somewheres else, by people who don't know a whole lot anyway. And if it really was common knowledge, how come so many people ask so many questions?

I request, as have many others, that you not even discuss names of places. And if you want to know how the hunting is here, it sux, always has, always will. Aint no ducks here. They are all up north . . . or down in Louisiana, and its too hot . . . or too cold, and its too crowded to.

Anatadae, if you are gonna leave this post, maybe you will have some free time to give me a lesson on those damn gremlins.
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Postby Wingman » Tue Nov 06, 2001 7:31 pm

BrianB...I do not agree with the partially harvested part. As long as it is done in a manner that is "normal" agricultural practice, it can be hunted. There is nothing wrong with leaving strips of grain or half a field to hunt. Now if you dump the grain cart in one spot or open the back of the combine up to let the grain fall out in unusually heavy amounts, that is baiting. I may be wrong, but I do not think leaving unharvested stalks or portions of the field is baiting. You can't ride through the unharvested part with your fourwheeler and knock it down( which is another crazy rule) but leaving grain standing, I understand, is okay.

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Postby MSDuckmen » Tue Nov 06, 2001 8:15 pm

Wingman,

A normal agricultural harvest is undertaken for the purpose of gathering a crop. The arrangement of harvested grain in long rows or piles should raise questions about the legality of the area for waterfowl hunting. A normal post-harvest manipulation first requires a normal agricultural harvest and removal of grain before any manipulation of remaining agricultural vegetation, such as corn stubble or rice stubble. You should be aware that although you can hunt doves over manipulated agricultural crops, you cannot hunt waterfowl over manipulated agricultural crops except after the field has been subject to a normal harvest and removal of grain (i.e., post-harvest manipulation).
If, for whatever reason, an agricultural crop or a portion of an agricultural crop has not been harvested (i.e., equipment failure, weather, insect infestation, disease, etc.) and the crop or remaining portion of the crop has been manipulated, then the area is a baited area and cannot be hunted for waterfowl.


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Postby MSDuckmen » Tue Nov 06, 2001 8:22 pm

It is also in the regs, I just missed it.
As long as you make no attempt to harvest the standing crop you may hunt.

Agricultural lands offer prime waterfowl hunting opportunities. You can hunt waterfowl in fields of unharvested standing crops. You can also hunt over standing crops that have been flooded. You can flood fields after crops are harvested and use these areas for waterfowl hunting.
The presence of seed or grain in an agricultural area rules out waterfowl hunting unless the seed or grain is scattered solely as the result of a normal agricultural planting, normal agricultural harvesting, normal agricultural post-harvest manipulation, or normal agricultural soil stabilization practice

No manipulation is the key word for standing crops
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Postby MSDuckmen » Tue Nov 06, 2001 8:26 pm

Manipulation is defined in the Regs as:

Manipulation means the alteration of natural vegetation or agricultural crops by activities that include but are not limited to mowing, shredding, discing, rolling, chopping, trampling, flattening, burning, or herbicide treatments. The term manipulation does not include the distributing or scattering of grain, seed, or other feed after removal from or storage on the field where grown

Hope this helps ....
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Postby MSDuckmen » Tue Nov 06, 2001 8:32 pm

The way I read this and I'm fairly sure that I'm right.
If the standing crop is connected to the part of the crop that has been taken and is not solely on it's own and seperate piece of land then it is a crop that is not completely harvested. That means it is Manipulated plain and simple. You are surly taking a chance if the wardens know the law....

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