The great spinner debate continues......

[chopper30]

If the bird
is coming he's coming with or without a spinner. If he flares, he probably would flare if there wasn't a spinner within
100 miles of him.

I know 100% that's not true. Why do you think they started making those things with remotes?

[fireplug]

Why do you think they started making those things with remotes?

My guess would be to save the battery.

[70 sprig]

You see , to me it's not so much how deadly spinners are , it's the company the damn things keep

Hey wait a minute! I resemble that remark.

Come on guys. If the booty clowns that would set up on you are using spinners, don't you think they would still set up
on you if they weren't. Spinners don't make that much of a difference if any at all. I have done the research myself. If the bird
is coming he's coming with or without a spinner. If he flares, he probably would flare if there wasn't a spinner within
100 miles of him.

Again , I'm not pickin on anybody , but you do kinda make my point for me .
Alot of those " booty clowns " that set up on top of you with their spinners would figure out in short order that they couldn't wack a duck if it flew down their gun barrell , without the aid of their spinner .
Therefor they'd learn how to respectfully HUNT ducks or they'd take up basket weaving , either of which is fine with me .

[three11]

Just for arguments sake.......

Let's ban mud motors too. There is nothing that I hate worse than walking in knee deep mud for an hour and getting soaked after stepping in a beaver run, only to have some topwater with a Go-devil come flying by with a twenty foot rooster tail slinging crap all over me and beat me to the hole. Besides, my Papaw didn't use one, and that means that mudmotors go against all that is holy in the world of waterfowling.


I don't own a spinner, and I never intend to buy one. But I don't really care if you do. I don't understand how someone can condemn them, yet use every other modern convenience known to man and still pass judgment on somebody that uses a spinner.

Again, just for arguments sake......

Who is the topwater here? Joe Blow with a $15,000 boat/mud motor, GPS, a $10,000 lease, diesel powered well to guarantee water, lanyard full of high dollar calls, field trail champion lab that someone else trained, but no spinners!.......
or...
Randy that works down at the body shop that can't blow a call worth a damn, carries a dozen carry-lites and two spinners, has to paddle to his hole because his 1980 model evinrude won't crank when it's cold, on already overcrowded public land.....?

Is it the guy who is 'buying' an advantage over the poorboys?
Is it the guy with the two spinners that has an 'unfair' advantage.


I like to use technology just as much as the next guy, and I am not trying to pass judgment on anyone. But as far as I am concerned, using a battery powered decoy is no different that using a gasoline powered engine to get you to your hole.


I think I'll just deer hunt,

-Three





Disclaimer: I have a boat/motor, 4-wheeler, some nice calls, lots of decoys(no spinners, but I'll still hunt with you if you do), a 4wheel drive, diesel power units, and lots of other stuff, too.

[RockBottom]

Just for arguments sake.......

Let's ban mud motors too. There is nothing that I hate worse than walking in knee deep mud for an hour and getting soaked after stepping in a beaver run, only to have some topwater with a Go-devil come flying by with a twenty foot rooster tail slinging crap all over me and beat me to the hole. Besides, my Papaw didn't use one, and that means that mudmotors go against all that is holy in the world of waterfowling.


I don't own a spinner, and I never intend to buy one. But I don't really care if you do. I don't understand how someone can condemn them, yet use every other modern convenience known to man and still pass judgment on somebody that uses a spinner.

Again, just for arguments sake......

Who is the topwater here? Joe Blow with a $15,000 boat/mud motor, GPS, a $10,000 lease, diesel powered well to guarantee water, lanyard full of high dollar calls, field trail champion lab that someone else trained, but no spinners!.......
or...
Randy that works down at the body shop that can't blow a call worth a damn, carries a dozen carry-lites and two spinners, has to paddle to his hole because his 1980 model evinrude won't crank when it's cold, on already overcrowded public land.....?

Is it the guy who is 'buying' an advantage over the poorboys?
Is it the guy with the two spinners that has an 'unfair' advantage.


I like to use technology just as much as the next guy, and I am not trying to pass judgment on anyone. But as far as I am concerned, using a battery powered decoy is no different that using a gasoline powered engine to get you to your hole.


I think I'll just deer hunt,

-Three





Disclaimer: I have a boat/motor, 4-wheeler, some nice calls, lots of decoys(no spinners, but I'll still hunt with you if you do), a 4wheel drive, diesel power units, and lots of other stuff, too.

+1 Nice post

[DUCKAHOLIC]

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[70 sprig]

Just for arguments sake.......

Let's ban mud motors too. There is nothing that I hate worse than walking in knee deep mud for an hour and getting soaked after stepping in a beaver run, only to have some topwater with a Go-devil come flying by with a twenty foot rooster tail slinging crap all over me and beat me to the hole. Besides, my Papaw didn't use one, and that means that mudmotors go against all that is holy in the world of waterfowling.


I don't own a spinner, and I never intend to buy one. But I don't really care if you do. I don't understand how someone can condemn them, yet use every other modern convenience known to man and still pass judgment on somebody that uses a spinner.

Again, just for arguments sake......

Who is the topwater here? Joe Blow with a $15,000 boat/mud motor, GPS, a $10,000 lease, diesel powered well to guarantee water, lanyard full of high dollar calls, field trail champion lab that someone else trained, but no spinners!.......
or...
Randy that works down at the body shop that can't blow a call worth a damn, carries a dozen carry-lites and two spinners, has to paddle to his hole because his 1980 model evinrude won't crank when it's cold, on already overcrowded public land.....?

Is it the guy who is 'buying' an advantage over the poorboys?
Is it the guy with the two spinners that has an 'unfair' advantage.


I like to use technology just as much as the next guy, and I am not trying to pass judgment on anyone. But as far as I am concerned, using a battery powered decoy is no different that using a gasoline powered engine to get you to your hole.


I think I'll just deer hunt,

-Three





Disclaimer: I have a boat/motor, 4-wheeler, some nice calls, lots of decoys(no spinners, but I'll still hunt with you if you do), a 4wheel drive, diesel power units, and lots of other stuff, too.

Mud motors ......I'd say that whoever invented the mud motor was a duck hunter that new how to kill ducks , he was just having a tuff time gettin to them . Hell " Randy's" a mechanic , why don't he build him one ?


The guy with the 15,000 dollar boat and the 10,000 dollar lease is prolly pretty passionate about duck huntin or he wouldn't be throwing down that kinda jack on it , I doubt he allows spinners at his place , and he's prolly too busy working to pay for his duck hunting passion to have time to train his own dog .
BTW , tell him congrats on that FC . ( I kinda doubt Randy's lap dog is much fun to hunt with , just a hunch . )

I've paddled into many over crowded public holes myself , I certainly ain't the dude with the 15,000 dollar boat and the 10,000 dollar lease , but I didn't take spinners with me .

Ole randy was alright in my book right up to the part where he started totin a couple spinners , so in this case , the topwater award goes to him .

BTW , some folks is just cut out to be deer hunters ........nuttin wrong with that .

[torch]

Man you ain't duck hunted until you have had 3 Vortex's, 5 mallard machines, 105 wing thangs and about 15 mojo's hangin from trees and poles.

I had to get and exercise bike in the blind and hook up a 160 amp delco alternator just to keep the battery's charged enough to run this stuff for one morning.

Me and Outlaw Josey wales lost about 20lbs a piece peddling that damn bike.

[tombstone]

Just for arguments sake.......

Let's ban mud motors too. There is nothing that I hate worse than walking in knee deep mud for an hour and getting soaked after stepping in a beaver run, only to have some topwater with a Go-devil come flying by with a twenty foot rooster tail slinging crap all over me and beat me to the hole. Besides, my Papaw didn't use one, and that means that mudmotors go against all that is holy in the world of waterfowling.


I don't own a spinner, and I never intend to buy one. But I don't really care if you do. I don't understand how someone can condemn them, yet use every other modern convenience known to man and still pass judgment on somebody that uses a spinner.

Again, just for arguments sake......

Who is the topwater here? Joe Blow with a $15,000 boat/mud motor, GPS, a $10,000 lease, diesel powered well to guarantee water, lanyard full of high dollar calls, field trail champion lab that someone else trained, but no spinners!.......
or...
Randy that works down at the body shop that can't blow a call worth a damn, carries a dozen carry-lites and two spinners, has to paddle to his hole because his 1980 model evinrude won't crank when it's cold, on already overcrowded public land.....?

Is it the guy who is 'buying' an advantage over the poorboys?
Is it the guy with the two spinners that has an 'unfair' advantage.


I like to use technology just as much as the next guy, and I am not trying to pass judgment on anyone. But as far as I am concerned, using a battery powered decoy is no different that using a gasoline powered engine to get you to your hole.


I think I'll just deer hunt,

-Three





Disclaimer: I have a boat/motor, 4-wheeler, some nice calls, lots of decoys(no spinners, but I'll still hunt with you if you do), a 4wheel drive, diesel power units, and lots of other stuff, too.

good post 311

[mudsucker]

Spinners------I'd say who ever invented THEM knew how to duck hunt too! So what was your point again, 70 sprig?

[70 sprig]

Just for arguments sake.......

Let's ban mud motors too. There is nothing that I hate worse than walking in knee deep mud for an hour and getting soaked after stepping in a beaver run, only to have some topwater with a Go-devil come flying by with a twenty foot rooster tail slinging crap all over me and beat me to the hole. Besides, my Papaw didn't use one, and that means that mudmotors go against all that is holy in the world of waterfowling.


I don't own a spinner, and I never intend to buy one. But I don't really care if you do. I don't understand how someone can condemn them, yet use every other modern convenience known to man and still pass judgment on somebody that uses a spinner.

Again, just for arguments sake......

Who is the topwater here? Joe Blow with a $15,000 boat/mud motor, GPS, a $10,000 lease, diesel powered well to guarantee water, lanyard full of high dollar calls, field trail champion lab that someone else trained, but no spinners!.......
or...
Randy that works down at the body shop that can't blow a call worth a damn, carries a dozen carry-lites and two spinners, has to paddle to his hole because his 1980 model evinrude won't crank when it's cold, on already overcrowded public land.....?

Is it the guy who is 'buying' an advantage over the poorboys?
Is it the guy with the two spinners that has an 'unfair' advantage.


I like to use technology just as much as the next guy, and I am not trying to pass judgment on anyone. But as far as I am concerned, using a battery powered decoy is no different that using a gasoline powered engine to get you to your hole.


I think I'll just deer hunt,

-Three

Three 11 that was probably one of the best posts I have ever read on this forum.

And I am here to tell ya......you got all these spinner bashers on here and I will bet the majority own one.....hell I have hunted with the bashers who call and tell me to bring mine so we will have two............you hunt your way and let the next man hunt his.................

Ducka , I can assure you that I don't own one , and furthermore , if you EVER run across a spread anywhere in the world that has one in it then you can bet your sweet booty that I ain't there . You can't make me believe that a duck hunter needs these damn things to kill a duck , I know better . I may be in the minority here , but believe it or not , I've actually killed a duck without one . Course I don't have pictures to prove it so maybe it was all a dream . All I know is I went duckin one opening day and these damn things seemed to be a must for every " sport " that I ran across .

I ain't drinkin that koolaide

[missed mallards]

Mud motors ......I'd say that whoever invented the mud motor was a duck hunter that new how to kill ducks , he was just having a tuff time gettin to them . Hell " Randy's" a mechanic , why don't he build him one ?

For arguments sake, the guy that invented the mojo was probably having a tuff time gettin them in. Doesn't mean he didn't know how to kill'em, just found an easier way too. Same with mud motor, just easier.

The guy with the 15,000 dollar boat and the 10,000 dollar lease is prolly pretty passionate about duck huntin or he wouldn't be throwing down that kinda jack on it , I doubt he allows spinners at his place , and he's prolly too busy working to pay for his duck hunting passion to have time to train his own dog .
BTW , tell him congrats on that FC . ( I kinda doubt Randy's lap dog is much fun to hunt with , just a hunch . )

Not always true. Remember, there are people referred to as topwaters. Some people think since you buy the stuff, your a duck hunter. In some cases, some people want the "look". Hey MAN, come look at my 15K boat, she's a bute ain't she, ain't real sure what a mud motor is, but the salesman said If'n I wanted to be a duck hunter, I had to have one!!

And now on to banning them, why don't we ban them on PUBLIC land, if we ban them at all?

Don't really know why I had to chime in, I've hunted over one 3 times in the last 2 years, they sure as shat didn't help then LOL.

[three11]

Ole randy was alright in my book right up to the part where he started totin a couple spinners , so in this case , the topwater award goes to him .

My whole point is.......

Neither one is a topwater in my book.



If spinners are going to be the one thing that ruins duck hunting, the powers that be will surely ban them, just like they banned punt guns way back when. And if they will in fact ruin duck hunting, then by all means, ban them tomorrow. I just don't see them changing the face of waterfowling forever.

Like I said earlier, I don't own a spinner, and don't condone their use.


I just had an epiphany!
I think what we are trying to do here is not ban spinners, but topwaters in general.

I propose that we ban the breeding groung for topwaters!!

Yes, I know what you all are thinking. "Is this guy serious? Can we really pull this off?"
To quote Barrack Obama, "Yes, WE CAN!"
If we all work together we can wipe out the topwater race by going right for the jugular!!

How do we do this," you may be asking?






By banning all DU events on college campuses!


We can cripple the window sticker industry!
We can bring the spinner industry to its knees!
Call coozies? No more!

Who's with me?

[70 sprig]

Spinners------I'd say who ever invented THEM knew how to duck hunt too! So what was your point again, 70 sprig?

Then WHY DID HE NEED IT ? I'd say he wasn't gettin the results he was lookin for ( for whatever reason , lack of calling skills , lack of knowledge , lack of thinkin like a duck , lack of ability to think like a duck , lack of willingness to work for a duck ? ) Whatever the reason , rather than figure out whatever it was he was doing wrong , he invented him a magic bullet , and now anyone with 75 bucks can go to the wal marks and become an instant killer , don't forget to pick up some stickers while you're there .

[three11]

Ducka , I can assure you that I don't own one , and furthermore , if you EVER run across a spread anywhere in the world that has one in it then you can bet your sweet booty that I ain't there . You can't make me believe that a duck hunter needs these damn things to kill a duck , I know better . I may be in the minority here , but believe it or not , I've actually killed a duck without one . Course I don't have pictures to prove it so maybe it was all a dream . All I know is I went duckin one opening day and these damn things seemed to be a must for every " sport " that I ran across .

I ain't drinkin that koolaide

I can feel your pain, but what do you have against them?

Is it the battery?

Is it because they move?

Is it because the "sports" use them?


Seriously, I don't use one because it just seems to be too much of a hassle to deal with charging the batteries and messing with the wings and stuff. I already have enough crap that doesn't work right. Just curious to know why some people are so against them?