Any news on 2008 pond counts?
Any news on 2008 pond counts?
I am afraid we may be in for 45 day season since saskatchewan and mannitoba have been reported to be dry. I saw wisconsin had numbrs of birds up from 2007, but can't find anything out from other areas yet. California posted theirs a while back, but doesn't effect Mississippi flyway.
Anyone have websites with info
Anyone have websites with info
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Re: Any news on 2008 pond counts?
I don't think it has come out yet but numbers are predicted to be low. I am sure they will still somehow figure a way to get a 60/6 in there.
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Re: Any news on 2008 pond counts?
It is here...
Lemme see if I can post the link...
http://216.247.247.59/Trend_Report_2008a.pdf
7.724 million Mallards
4.431 million ponds
AHM should point to "Liberal" with room to spare...
Remember, you heard it here first!
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Lemme see if I can post the link...
http://216.247.247.59/Trend_Report_2008a.pdf
7.724 million Mallards
4.431 million ponds
AHM should point to "Liberal" with room to spare...

Remember, you heard it here first!

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Re: Any news on 2008 pond counts?
Thanks for posting that!
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Re: Any news on 2008 pond counts?
Preciate that
"The middle of the road is where the white line is -- and that's the worst place to drive." Robert Frost
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Re: Any news on 2008 pond counts?
Is is just me? I can't get the link to work. I could care less about mallards what about everything else? Teal, pintail, canvasbacks?
Re: Any news on 2008 pond counts?
30 - 45 - 60 - Dry - whatever.......it'll be what it is, when it gets here.
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It's a bloody mary morning...
Re: Any news on 2008 pond counts?
Below is a cut and paste from another board, it is a summary of USF&W service report.
Jeff, Teal are ok, greys are down, but still above long term average
Pintail and canvasback are down, so that may cut into your bag
From the Breeding Grounds: It's Dry...Real Dry...Bad Dry
BISMARCK, N.D. -- What a difference a year makes.
Last year the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service's annual Waterfowl Breeding Population and Habitat Survey painted a rosy picture -- Canada had the fourth-highest pond count in recorded history and five duck species were in record or near-record territory.
The 2008 breeding population survey, released this week by the Service, shows a 39 percent decline in Canadian ponds and double-digit percentage drops for 5 of the 10 most abundant species in the traditional survey area.
"Overall, the duck numbers aren't as bad as they might have been, but don't look for much production this year," says Dr. Frank Rohwer of Louisiana State University, Delta Waterfowl's scientific director. "Those areas across the breeding grounds that are wet are not the productive areas, and the most productive areas are dry...real dry...bad dry."
The combined May pond count for the United States and Canada was 4.4 million, a drop of 37 percent from a year ago and 10 percent below the long-term average. The mallard population was surprisingly strong, down just 7 percent to 7.7 million breeding birds. Total ducks dropped 9 percent from 41.1 million to 37.3 million.
Among the biggest surprises of the survey was the canvasback, which fell 44 percent from last year's record 865,000 to just 489,000 this year.
Northern shoveler dropped 23 percent from last year's record high of 4.6 million to just 3.5 million, northern pintail fell 22 percent from 3.3 million to 2.6 million, gadwall slipped 19 percent from 3.4 million to 2.7 million and American wigeon numbers slid 11 percent from 2.8 million to 2.5 million.
On the positive side of the ledger, scaup numbers jumped 8 percent from 3.5 million to 3.7 million, making it the third most-abundant species; redheads rose 5 percent from last year's record high of 1 million to 1.1 million, and green-winged teal edged up 3 percent to 2.9 million, the second-highest population ever for the No. 2 bird in harvest.
Dry conditions across the prairie breeding grounds took a toll on mallard numbers. The eastern Dakota mallard population was down 24 percent from last year, Montana and the western Dakotas slipped 36 percent and Saskatchewan was down 12 percent. Increases in mallard numbers were seen in the "bush" regions of the northern provinces, suggesting the birds over-flew the prairies.
"When the prairies are dry, a lot of mallards will over-fly the prairies and sit out the summer up north," says Delta President Rob Olson. "We don't get a lot of production from those birds."
Olson says mallard and pintail numbers in Alberta continue to be a concern for Delta scientists. "Alberta's pond count is still 15 percent above the long-term average, but the pintail population there is down 66 percent from its long-term average and mallards are 20 percent below their long-term average.
"When Alberta is the one bright spot in terms of spring habitat, we would have hoped for a better result there. We haven't seen a response for mallards or pintails in Alberta, despite good wetland conditions."
The story is different in the eastern Dakotas, where the mallard population is still 75 percent higher than its long-term average despite a 16-percent drop in wetlands long-term. "That's a function of the Conservation Reserve Program (CRP), which put millions of acres of undisturbed grass nesting cover on the landscape," Olson says.
"The mallard breeding population across the duck factory is still above the long-term average because of CRP, but at the rate we're losing CRP, it's going to be difficult to maintain those levels."
In the eastern survey area, mallards were unchanged at 450,000, black ducks dropped 13 percent to 496,000, green-winged teal were up fractionally at 261,000, ring-necked ducks dropped 17 percent to 551,000, goldeneyes fell 7 percent at 424,000, mergansers dropped 4 percent to 412,000, wigeon lost 40 percent to 8,000, scaup rose 4 percent to 32,000, bufflehead climbed 93 percent to 30,000 and scoters lost 17 percent to 86,000.
The survey is conducted annually by the Fish and Wildlife Service and the Canadian Wildlife Service.
Jeff, Teal are ok, greys are down, but still above long term average
Pintail and canvasback are down, so that may cut into your bag

From the Breeding Grounds: It's Dry...Real Dry...Bad Dry
BISMARCK, N.D. -- What a difference a year makes.
Last year the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service's annual Waterfowl Breeding Population and Habitat Survey painted a rosy picture -- Canada had the fourth-highest pond count in recorded history and five duck species were in record or near-record territory.
The 2008 breeding population survey, released this week by the Service, shows a 39 percent decline in Canadian ponds and double-digit percentage drops for 5 of the 10 most abundant species in the traditional survey area.
"Overall, the duck numbers aren't as bad as they might have been, but don't look for much production this year," says Dr. Frank Rohwer of Louisiana State University, Delta Waterfowl's scientific director. "Those areas across the breeding grounds that are wet are not the productive areas, and the most productive areas are dry...real dry...bad dry."
The combined May pond count for the United States and Canada was 4.4 million, a drop of 37 percent from a year ago and 10 percent below the long-term average. The mallard population was surprisingly strong, down just 7 percent to 7.7 million breeding birds. Total ducks dropped 9 percent from 41.1 million to 37.3 million.
Among the biggest surprises of the survey was the canvasback, which fell 44 percent from last year's record 865,000 to just 489,000 this year.
Northern shoveler dropped 23 percent from last year's record high of 4.6 million to just 3.5 million, northern pintail fell 22 percent from 3.3 million to 2.6 million, gadwall slipped 19 percent from 3.4 million to 2.7 million and American wigeon numbers slid 11 percent from 2.8 million to 2.5 million.
On the positive side of the ledger, scaup numbers jumped 8 percent from 3.5 million to 3.7 million, making it the third most-abundant species; redheads rose 5 percent from last year's record high of 1 million to 1.1 million, and green-winged teal edged up 3 percent to 2.9 million, the second-highest population ever for the No. 2 bird in harvest.
Dry conditions across the prairie breeding grounds took a toll on mallard numbers. The eastern Dakota mallard population was down 24 percent from last year, Montana and the western Dakotas slipped 36 percent and Saskatchewan was down 12 percent. Increases in mallard numbers were seen in the "bush" regions of the northern provinces, suggesting the birds over-flew the prairies.
"When the prairies are dry, a lot of mallards will over-fly the prairies and sit out the summer up north," says Delta President Rob Olson. "We don't get a lot of production from those birds."
Olson says mallard and pintail numbers in Alberta continue to be a concern for Delta scientists. "Alberta's pond count is still 15 percent above the long-term average, but the pintail population there is down 66 percent from its long-term average and mallards are 20 percent below their long-term average.
"When Alberta is the one bright spot in terms of spring habitat, we would have hoped for a better result there. We haven't seen a response for mallards or pintails in Alberta, despite good wetland conditions."
The story is different in the eastern Dakotas, where the mallard population is still 75 percent higher than its long-term average despite a 16-percent drop in wetlands long-term. "That's a function of the Conservation Reserve Program (CRP), which put millions of acres of undisturbed grass nesting cover on the landscape," Olson says.
"The mallard breeding population across the duck factory is still above the long-term average because of CRP, but at the rate we're losing CRP, it's going to be difficult to maintain those levels."
In the eastern survey area, mallards were unchanged at 450,000, black ducks dropped 13 percent to 496,000, green-winged teal were up fractionally at 261,000, ring-necked ducks dropped 17 percent to 551,000, goldeneyes fell 7 percent at 424,000, mergansers dropped 4 percent to 412,000, wigeon lost 40 percent to 8,000, scaup rose 4 percent to 32,000, bufflehead climbed 93 percent to 30,000 and scoters lost 17 percent to 86,000.
The survey is conducted annually by the Fish and Wildlife Service and the Canadian Wildlife Service.
Re: Any news on 2008 pond counts?
here is the link
has chart at bottom with break down by species to look at % drop
http://www.duckhuntingchat.com/viewtopic.php?p=489082
has chart at bottom with break down by species to look at % drop
http://www.duckhuntingchat.com/viewtopic.php?p=489082
Re: Any news on 2008 pond counts?
Doom and Gloom
'guess we'll spend our joint economic stimulus check getting to SK this Fall.....so we can at least SEE some ducks.
'guess we'll spend our joint economic stimulus check getting to SK this Fall.....so we can at least SEE some ducks.
Re: Any news on 2008 pond counts?
Gloom, despair, and agony on me.
Deep, dark depression, excessive misery.
If it weren't for bad luck, I'd have no luck, a'tall,
That about sums it up....
(what show with exceptional scenery did that song come from? And what two celebrities found wives from it?)
crow
Deep, dark depression, excessive misery.
If it weren't for bad luck, I'd have no luck, a'tall,
That about sums it up....
(what show with exceptional scenery did that song come from? And what two celebrities found wives from it?)
crow
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Re: Any news on 2008 pond counts?
Hee Haw was the show with great scenery (those hay bales were marvelous). Not sure about the celebrities-might have to call BR549 to find out.
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Re: Any news on 2008 pond counts?
Was it Roy Clark and Buck Owens? I remember watching that show with my grandparents when I was a kid.
Man I'm old.




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