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BASICS

Postby EvanG » Wed Mar 05, 2008 5:30 am

It's sometimes easy to look past the new trainers who come to the board because so many of you are experienced. I try to keep all of you in mind in the discussions here. Many of you who are fairly new to training retrievers for fieldwork may have read or heard the term "Basics" in many places, but perhaps don't fully relate to the true meaning of the term as it applies to modern methods.

In times past, "Basics" meant something like basic obedience commands, and may or may not include something like a force fetch, or some version of it. The term still illicits a variety of mental images.

So, for the purpose of future discussion, here is what most modern methods include under that heading. The order or descriptive terms may vary, but the skills are pretty constant.

The components of Basics in order

1) “Here”
2) “Heel & Sit”
3) “Hold”; automatically evolves to Walking “Hold, Heel, Sit”
4) “Fetch”; ear pinch, which evolves into Walking “Fetch” & “Fetch-no-fetch”
5) Pile work, including Mini-pile, Nine bumper pile; AKA Force to pile
6) 3-handed casting; teaching the 3 basic casts – “Back” and both “Over’s”, including 2-hands “Back”
7) Mini tee; includes collar conditioning to all basic commands, transferring to the go, stop, cast functions in micro dimension as preparation for the Single tee. Also includes De-bolting
8 ) Single tee
9) Double tee
10) Water tee with Swim-by

Feel free to ask or comment on any or all components, and how they may relate to subsequent skill acquisition.

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Re: BASICS

Postby msbigdawg1234 » Wed Mar 05, 2008 5:43 am

Welcome on board Mr Graham. I am sure everyone will be glad to know that you ar avaiable for help. You have a great training material that explains thing in a good laymen terms. Thnks again for coming on to the Msducks forums. You will meet alot of good folks here.Also check yo pm
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Postby yshbhy » Wed Mar 05, 2008 6:10 am

Welcome, glad to see ya on the board!
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Re: BASICS

Postby Glenn » Wed Mar 05, 2008 7:43 am

This board is going downhill fast. No just kidding.

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Postby Copiah Creek » Wed Mar 05, 2008 7:50 am

Welcome aboard ,,,,,,,,and DIB will flip :P He is truly one of your biggest fans :mrgreen:
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Re: BASICS

Postby Drakeshead » Wed Mar 05, 2008 8:05 am

Copiah Creek wrote:Welcome aboard ,,,,,,,,and DIB will flip :P He is truly one of your biggest fans :mrgreen:
You mean to say that there is someone out there DIB says good things about? :D
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Re: BASICS

Postby Damn_It_Boy » Wed Mar 05, 2008 8:30 am

Damn It Boy! I get no respect.......no respect..... :lol:

I do like Evan's material very much. It's presented in an easy to understand format that keeps you on a clear and precise path, if you elect to stay on that path. You just made me think, I need volume two now........$$$$$$$ :lol:
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Re: BASICS

Postby waterbug » Wed Mar 05, 2008 8:58 am

Welcome. I have read a lot of your material off of another training forum site. The walking baseball thread was great. Did you ever decide to do a DVD on that?
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Re: BASICS

Postby mharville » Wed Mar 05, 2008 8:59 am

Always good to get more knowledge..welcome to the board.
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Re: BASICS

Postby GulfCoast » Wed Mar 05, 2008 9:40 am

He did a DVD.
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Re: BASICS

Postby EvanG » Wed Mar 05, 2008 11:47 am

waterbug wrote:Welcome. I have read a lot of your material off of another training forum site. The walking baseball thread was great. Did you ever decide to do a DVD on that?

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YEP!

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Re: BASICS

Postby BAY KINGFISHER » Wed Mar 05, 2008 12:22 pm

Welcome to the board Mr. Graham, Im in the process of training my 5 1/2 month old blf and I have been using Vol 1....training has been very enjoyable thus far for this neophyte dog trainer ..the only problem im having is the dog is smarter than me :lol:
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Re: BASICS

Postby cdwyer » Wed Mar 05, 2008 3:20 pm

Evan,

Great to see you here.

For those of you that are new, we were fortunate enough to host Evan last winter about this time in North, MS!

Hope you stop by often. Ive got some questions re: your transition DVD and would like to have some discussions.

Thanks,
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Re: BASICS

Postby EvanG » Wed Mar 05, 2008 4:08 pm

cdwyer wrote:Evan,

Great to see you here.

For those of you that are new, we were fortunate enough to host Evan last winter about this time in North, MS!

Hope you stop by often. Ive got some questions re: your transition DVD and would like to have some discussions.

Thanks,
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Re: BASICS

Postby lilwhitelie » Wed Mar 05, 2008 7:46 pm

EvanG wrote:
waterbug wrote:Welcome. I have read a lot of your material off of another training forum site. The walking baseball thread was great. Did you ever decide to do a DVD on that?

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