Take Me Back Tuesday: GLOBAL WARMING CORRAL

[duramax]

Im not saying ur right or wrong,,, but the gentlemen who started The Weather Channel was on Glen Beck and he dissagrees with you all and says there is no such thing as global warming.

**** I believe you were talking about Carbon Monoixide.. not Carbon dioixide we breath out and the plants use it.

1. for all you GORE 08 fans and think he is some great man, if he cares so much about the earth why in his campaigns did he use more jet fuel for his planes than any canadite ever. As well, he has a house that uses more energy in 1 month than the average American household in 1 year.

2. Global Warming is a theory,,,not a fact. It cant be proven

3. If any of you who has taken a geology class in a College or University and the teacher has taught it on a non bias level, you would have learned the world goes through cycles of heating and cooling,,, we are possibly in a heating stage probably not though... This was proven through looking at MILLIONS of years of rocks...

4. It wasnt 15yrs ago when we were going through a ICE AGE ..Jesus people quit jumping on the ban wagon.. Yalls Boy GORE is making a killing off of you all.

5. McCain is a freakin liberal in a rebulican suit.

6. An if you all believe in the Global Warming soooo much trade in ur gas guzzling Z71s and FX4s and get a freaking Toyota Preuis.. And stop making all these freaking long duck hunting trips that are contributing highly to the co2.

7. 1 VOLCANO puts out more CARBON MONOXIDE than the human race can in 100yrs.

and theres my 2cents.

You might want to actually read what 99% of us have written on this subject before making the assertion that we believe that global warming is man made. There is only one person (Hammer) that believes that it is man made, on this post. Everything you just said has been made by several other people before before you. And carbon monoxide has nothing to do with "global warming", as po monk just stated. Before you think that we all disagree with you, you might want to read the posts prior to yours. You will find that we are a collective group of Al Gore haters, and actually do have common sense.

[bigbeeducker]

Im not saying ur right or wrong,,, but the gentlemen who started The Weather Channel was on Glen Beck and he dissagrees with you all and says there is no such thing as global warming.

**** I believe you were talking about Carbon Monoixide.. not Carbon dioixide we breath out and the plants use it.

1. for all you GORE 08 fans and think he is some great man, if he cares so much about the earth why in his campaigns did he use more jet fuel for his planes than any canadite ever. As well, he has a house that uses more energy in 1 month than the average American household in 1 year.

2. Global Warming is a theory,,,not a fact. It cant be proven

3. If any of you who has taken a geology class in a College or University and the teacher has taught it on a non bias level, you would have learned the world goes through cycles of heating and cooling,,, we are possibly in a heating stage probably not though... This was proven through looking at MILLIONS of years of rocks...

4. It wasnt 15yrs ago when we were going through a ICE AGE ..Jesus people quit jumping on the ban wagon.. Yalls Boy GORE is making a killing off of you all.

5. McCain is a freakin liberal in a rebulican suit.

6. An if you all believe in the Global Warming soooo much trade in ur gas guzzling Z71s and FX4s and get a freaking Toyota Preuis.. And stop making all these freaking long duck hunting trips that are contributing highly to the co2.

7. 1 VOLCANO puts out more CARBON MONOXIDE than the human race can in 100yrs.

and theres my 2cents.

You might want to actually read what 99% of us have written on this subject before making the assertion that we believe that global warming is man made. There is only one person (Hammer) that believes that it is man made, on this post. Everything you just said has been made by several other people before before you. And carbon monoxide has nothing to do with "global warming", as po monk just stated. Before you think that we all disagree with you, you might want to read the posts prior to yours. You will find that we are a collective group of Al Gore haters, and actually do have common sense.

No chit, some people amaze the heck out a me.

[mudsucker]

Yeah. On page 6, or was it 13, I stated the fact about the volcano!

[Money]

Maybe somebody should start a new Global Warming thread.

[bigwater]

i just got through re-reading this thread.. it damn near took all weekend..

did this thread top the hobstock thread for views and replies?

[JDgator]

Regardless of your views toward global warming, you still might want to consider reducing co2 emissions. It does create smog. Here in MS, it is not a problem, but in California (LA in particular) it is bad. Plus, you will get a cost savings. Right now, the science of GW is imperfect, but we shouldn't presume that we understand the consequences of all our actions on the environment.

[Denduke]

From the cussin site by UD....

Forget global warming: Welcome to the new Ice Age
Lorne Gunter, National Post
Published: Monday, February 25, 20

Snow cover over North America and much of Siberia, Mongolia and China is greater than at any time since 1966.

The U.S. National Climatic Data Center (NCDC) reported that many American cities and towns suffered record cold temperatures in January and early February. According to the NCDC, the average temperature in January "was -0.3 F cooler than the 1901-2000 (20th century) average."

China is surviving its most brutal winter in a century. Temperatures in the normally balmy south were so low for so long that some middle-sized cities went days and even weeks without electricity because once power lines had toppled it was too cold or too icy to repair them.

There have been so many snow and ice storms in Ontario and Quebec in the past two months that the real estate market has felt the pinch as home buyers have stayed home rather than venturing out looking for new houses.

In just the first two weeks of February, Toronto received 70 cm of snow, smashing the record of 66.6 cm for the entire month set back in the pre-SUV, pre-Kyoto, pre-carbon footprint days of 1950.

And remember the Arctic Sea ice? The ice we were told so hysterically last fall had melted to its "lowest levels on record? Never mind that those records only date back as far as 1972 and that there is anthropological and geological evidence of much greater melts in the past.

The ice is back.

Gilles Langis, a senior forecaster with the Canadian Ice Service in Ottawa, says the Arctic winter has been so severe the ice has not only recovered, it is actually 10 to 20 cm thicker in many places than at this time last year.

OK, so one winter does not a climate make. It would be premature to claim an Ice Age is looming just because we have had one of our most brutal winters in decades.

But if environmentalists and environment reporters can run around shrieking about the manmade destruction of the natural order every time a robin shows up on Georgian Bay two weeks early, then it is at least fair game to use this winter's weather stories to wonder whether the alarmist are being a tad premature.

And it's not just anecdotal evidence that is piling up against the climate-change dogma.

According to Robert Toggweiler of the Geophysical Fluid Dynamics Laboratory at Princeton University and Joellen Russell, assistant professor of biogeochemical dynamics at the University of Arizona -- two prominent climate modellers -- the computer models that show polar ice-melt cooling the oceans, stopping the circulation of warm equatorial water to northern latitudes and triggering another Ice Age (a la the movie The Day After Tomorrow) are all wrong.

"We missed what was right in front of our eyes," says Prof. Russell. It's not ice melt but rather wind circulation that drives ocean currents northward from the tropics. Climate models until now have not properly accounted for the wind's effects on ocean circulation, so researchers have compensated by over-emphasizing the role of manmade warming on polar ice melt.

But when Profs. Toggweiler and Russell rejigged their model to include the 40-year cycle of winds away from the equator (then back towards it again), the role of ocean currents bringing warm southern waters to the north was obvious in the current Arctic warming.

Last month, Oleg Sorokhtin, a fellow of the Russian Academy of Natural Sciences, shrugged off manmade climate change as "a drop in the bucket." Showing that solar activity has entered an inactive phase, Prof. Sorokhtin advised people to "stock up on fur coats."

He is not alone. Kenneth Tapping of our own National Research Council, who oversees a giant radio telescope focused on the sun, is convinced we are in for a long period of severely cold weather if sunspot activity does not pick up soon.

The last time the sun was this inactive, Earth suffered the Little Ice Age that lasted about five centuries and ended in 1850. Crops failed through killer frosts and drought. Famine, plague and war were widespread. Harbours froze, so did rivers, and trade ceased.

It's way too early to claim the same is about to happen again, but then it's way too early for the hysteria of the global warmers, too.

[rjohnson]

D@mn it's hot outside right now, whew I'm sweating bullets. Mr. Wang in China says send some global warming his way.

[Po Monkey Lounger]

AHEM.....still more from the global warming heretics:

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Blog: Science
Temperature Monitors Report Widescale Global Cooling
Michael Asher (Blog) - February 26, 2008 12:55 PM

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World Temperatures according to the Hadley Center for Climate Prediction. Note the steep drop over the last year.Twelve-month long drop in world temperatures wipes out a century of warming

Over the past year, anecdotal evidence for a cooling planet has exploded. China has its coldest winter in 100 years. Baghdad sees its first snow in all recorded history. North America has the most snowcover in 50 years, with places like Wisconsin the highest since record-keeping began. Record levels of Antarctic sea ice, record cold in Minnesota, Texas, Florida, Mexico, Australia, Iran, Greece, South Africa, Greenland, Argentina, Chile -- the list goes on and on.
No more than anecdotal evidence, to be sure. But now, that evidence has been supplanted by hard scientific fact. All four major global temperature tracking outlets (Hadley, NASA's GISS, UAH, RSS) have released updated data. All show that over the past year, global temperatures have dropped precipitously.

A compiled list of all the sources can be seen here. The total amount of cooling ranges from 0.65C up to 0.75C -- a value large enough to wipe out most of the warming recorded over the past 100 years. All in one year's time. For all four sources, it's the single fastest temperature change ever recorded, either up or down.

Scientists quoted in a past DailyTech article link the cooling to reduced solar activity which they claim is a much larger driver of climate change than man-made greenhouse gases. The dramatic cooling seen in just 12 months time seems to bear that out. While the data doesn't itself disprove that carbon dioxide is acting to warm the planet, it does demonstrate clearly that more powerful factors are now cooling it.

Let's hope those factors stop fast. Cold is more damaging than heat. The mean temperature of the planet is about 54 degrees. Humans -- and most of the crops and animals we depend on -- prefer a temperature closer to 70.

Historically, the warm periods such as the Medieval Climate Optimum were beneficial for civilization. Corresponding cooling events such as the Little Ice Age, though, were uniformly bad news.

Update 2/27: The graph for HadCRUT (above), as well as the linked graphs for RSS and UAH are generated month-to-month; the temperature declines span a full 12 months of data. The linked GISS graph was graphed for the months of January only, due to a limitation in the plotting program. Anthony Watts, who kindly provided the graphics, otherwise has no connection with the column. The views and comments are those of the author only.
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Looks like we can look forward to colder winters in the future boys ---- and you know what that means......more green over the decoys, earlier and more often.

That global warming world "consensus" seems to be weakening quite a bit these days. Awfully quiet.

[Delta Duck]

Did I call Bull $#!+ already?

[bigwater]

crickets

[SWAG]

Good article on FoxNews today about another meeting of 100 scientist. This time they are meeting to say the earth has cooled if anything over the last ten years.

[mudsucker]

Hammer has cooled too. Nothing heard out of that boy for a while.

[tobydawg]

ALLRIGHT YOU STINKIN GENIUSES.....

[Old Griz]

I had to auger through 24 inches of ice to fish yesterday and this morning we had -4 degrees. This part of the globe ain't warming much!