Question for Po Monk or anyone who knows

[NUTMEG]

tuscaloser - The last post was exactly what i was trying to point out to you. NO one coach or recruit gives a da** what has been done in the last 25, 50 or 100 years. They look at what is being done presently or the past few years and clearly Ole Miss can rival Bama in basketball at this time. Now as typical in the SEC, every team other than kentucky has up and down years and that will continue.

But to say Bama is a major basketball program is a joke at best. And the reason everyone talks about Bama fans - is everytime sports is brought up the Bama nation says look what we done 20 yrs ago or 25 yrs ago. Talk about what is going on in the present ( oh yea you guys wouldnt have much to talk about)

[tuscaloosahunter]

Whatever. I can't explain how ridiculous this has become. The only point I was trying to make is that Kennedy might be interested based on the value of the job monetarily and on the level of success that has been PROVEN at Alabama. Sure, Ole Miss seems to be headed in the right direction if you use the first 16 games of the year as a litmus test, but the track record is not there. As far as what have you done for me lately, your absolutely right to some extent, although it's not that black and white. Let's assume Kentucky continues the slump they're in for the next 4 years and Ole Miss continues the upturn they're on. By your rationale, Kentucky would cease to be the best program in the league, and Ole Miss would instantly become a better, more attractive job. You and I both know that's not the case. All I'm saying is based on track record, Alabama is a place that has had a great deal of success in fielding a winning basketball team. Might Ole Miss someday achieve that same level of success, sure. However, based on the track record it doesn't appear to me that it's a place where a coach can realistically compete for a conference title year in and year out.

Nutmeg, to say we don't have much to talk about is true to some extent. We haven't fielded the most competitive teams in any sport in the recent future. However, this post wasn't started as a comparison of Alabama vs whoever. I don't live in the past by any strecth of the imagination. I'm very familiar with the Bama fans you're talking about and I honestly probably dislike them more than you do. However, you can't say that history doesn't affect the present or influence the perception of programs. Take Nick Saban for instance, while I'm sure you'll say he's not a good coach, most experts would agree he's not only good, he's one of the best. Do you think for one second he would have left the Miami Dolphins to take over Ole Miss had Orgeron gotten fired last year instead of this? I highly doubt it. As you said, we haven't had much to brag about recently, but that being said, there was some reason why Saban thought he could be successful at Alabama. Any guesses what that reason might be? DING, DING, DING. History, track record of PROVEN success, neither of which does Ole Miss possess.

eSJay--I'll say this one more mother fuqn time. If you don't give chit, then quit fuqn reading. I'm not twisting your arm to make you click on this post. You say you don't care, but it seems to me your lurking out there waiting for the next response to come so you can come in here and tell everyone how you don't care. Doesn't make much sense to me, but then again, I never was the smartest guy around.

[eSJay]

Doesn't make much sense to me, but then again, I never was the smartest guy around.

DING DING DING - you finally said something that makes sense!

[Unkljohn]

I would agree, bigwater, for the most part except, he played college ball in Alabama and I believe he coached at UAB for a while so it's not like it would be foreign to him. Also, Gottfried is making 1.2 million a year--that's close to double what Kennedy is paid which I would think be enough for him to at least listen. Also, at the risk of offending the Ole Miss nation, I'll say this. Alabama is a better program with a better chance of competing on a national level. I don't mean this as a slight to Ole Miss, it's just the recruiting base is limited, facilities aren't up to par, and the history of competitive teams doesn't exist. People tend to forget that other than Florida's unparalleled success in the past several years, Alabama is by far the 2nd best basketball program in the conference. By no means am I saying Alabama is a dynasty, I'm just saying if you look at the body of work in the last 25 years, save the David Hobbs era, Alabama is head and shoulders above everyone. Now I know you're gonna come back with the whole Arkansas thing, and while they're a GREAT program, remember they didn't join the SEC until fairly recently.

I think some LSU folks may disagree with you.

[tuscaloosahunter]

Again, eSJay, for someone who doesn't care, you sure do spend alot of time in this thread. By the way, that response was very well thought out--thought provoking, intelligent, the whole nine yards. I think you just might have a career in debate. Obviously my last comment was meant to be tongue in cheek because I'm at my wit's end here. I've provided statistical data that backs up my statement but apparently that's not enough. You, on the other hand, have brought a wealth of information to the table such as calling me arrogant and questioning my intelligence but you've yet to substantiate anything you've said--except that you don't care, which is obviously not true, otherwise you wouldn't be hanging on my every word and scripting your next profound, enlightening statement. My opinion is that you've engaged in a battle of wits severely unarmed.

UnklJohn, LSU fans can disagree with me all they want. What they can't disagree with is the numbers. Apparently statistical facts aren't enough to win an argument around here. Can someone help me out and let me know what other points of emphasis, other than facts, I might use to make my point.

Maybe we should play a game the democrats at my junior high school used to play called "Who thang biggest." That would be a much better way to settle an argument than actually supporting yourself with proven facts.

This has really gotten a bit tiresome, and not nearly as much fun as it was in the beginning. Had anyone here been able to actually prove my statement wrong, or at least make an attempt I would certainly still be entertained. What I'm left with, unfortunately, is a bunch of whiny, ass bitches who disagree with me wholeheartedly, but are too "@#$%#" stupid or lazy to make a legitmate, fact based argument to prove me otherwise.

In short, I win.

[eSJay]

In short, I win.

In short, you’re a loser & an idiot.
I extend an open invitation for you to hunt with me this week-end. We can "debate", "match wits" & "kill ducks". You in? I must warn you though; I might bring up the one number that will make you cry. SIX & will not be referring to a limit of ducks big boy.
Bammer = Auburn's Bioch since 2002

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I'm out...

Kill Ducks...Bama Sucks

[mudsucker]

Is this the sports forum?

[NUTMEG]

Tuscaloser - Comparing Saban and Bama football to the Alabama basketball program is like comparing apples and oranges. Lets see 11 national championships in football compared to how many in basketball for the Bama nation?

What we are trying to tell you is you cant compare Bama football to basketball. In the SEC only one team is thought of on the National level each and every year and it is Kentucky. The other 11 teams have had success at different times in the past but none of them are thought to be on a national level in basketball every year.

[tuscaloosahunter]

I'm not comparing Alabama football to Alabama basketball. All I was trying to say was that there is a long tradition of success in basketball at Alabama. It's not comparable to Alabama's success in football or Kentucky's success in basketball. It is however, a program that has been a consistent proven winner in the conference--more so than any other program in the history of the SEC. I'm not here to say that Alabama is a GREAT basketball job. All I'm saying is that if you consider the increase in compensation along with the history of proven success in recruiting, conference wins, etc... then you have to think that at the very least, should the job come open, Andy Kennedy might be willing to discuss the option.

Jay, the true sign of someone getting their booty kicked in an argument is when they resort to personal attacks and name calling. That being said, I'd welcome the invitation to hunt with you. Just because we disagree about something as trivial as this doesn't mean I have something against you personally.

[2Shot]

talk. Besides. the biggest cry babies come from Bama along with the refs that just got their new houndstooth uniforms. If you noticed, once Kramer retired. Alabama discovered the dive in all their programs. You need to name a stadium after Kramer and his evil empire. He got Bama most of their wins on the field and off the field. In fact, been around the refs after a Southern Miss game when they were laughing on how they cheated USM out of the game to let Bama win. And paying Satan $4 mill with $2 mill to loose 6 games is funny. If Bama could have waited 2 more weeks Satan would have been fired from Miami. It looks like Bama would buy snake oil from any idiot.

Since you and Bama is so good and so smart. I have some duck land availble for $1,000,000 you can buy. Bama=money idiot (always has been always will be). Proved with the purchase by Logan Young of a Memphis DT and others.

[tuscaloosahunter]

Since you and Bama is so good and so smart.

Apparently grammar wasn't a big point of emphasis at your place of education.

By the way, LOOSE is defined as free from anything that binds or restrains; lax, as the bowels, or sexually promiscuous or immoral; unchaste--2 of which I'm sure you're quite familiar.

LOSE is defined as to suffer defeat or fail to win, as in a contest, race, or game. With the assumption that you are a fan of some Mississippi school, I'm quite certain you're well versed in that as well.

[2Shot]

By the way, LOOSE is defined as free from anything that binds or restrains; lax, as the bowels, or sexually promiscuous or immoral; unchaste--Bama defined

Definition as reported by Tusc.

[woodrow1]

Apparently grammar wasn't a big point of emphasis at your place of education.

By the way, LOOSE is defined as free from anything that binds or restrains; lax, as the bowels, or sexually promiscuous or immoral; unchaste--2 of which I'm sure you're quite familiar.

LOSE is defined as to suffer defeat or fail to win, as in a contest, race, or game. With the assumption that you are a fan of some Mississippi school, I'm quite certain you're well versed in that as well.

dang it bs! there you go again! you're gonna have to cut em some slack!!
too damn funny!!

[mlreb]

This was in Monroe, LA on I-20 so the Bama fans could see it on their way to Shreveport...


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Man, i hate bama

[mudsucker]

GEAUXXXXXXXXXX TIGERS!