Take Me Back Tuesday: GLOBAL WARMING CORRAL

[MSDawg870]

Well schit Hammer says the ducks and geese ain't coming down so I guess we all better stay home.


This is from another post...

[Hammer]

PML: Here is a great big "whatever" for you. Any relevance you may have had in the early stages of this thread has long since dissipated as a result of gibberish you have posted.

[mudsucker]

PML: Here is a great big "whatever" for you. Any relevance you may have had in the early stages of this thread has long since dissipated as a result of gibberish you have posted.

Unlike your post before this one! The fact of arsonist aresseted for Cali. fires just eludes you!

[Po Monkey Lounger]

California brush/forest fires caused primarily due to poor, if any, forest/timber management practices. Instead, due to the enviro whackoos, they practice what they call "preservation", which really means doing nothing. Thus, the forests become too thinck and congested, have too much tinder on floor due to no prescribed burns, and have insufficient, if any, fire breaks or lanes. It is a situation ripe for a large forest fire, regardless of the source of ignition --- man or nature. In this case, it was believed to be arsonists. Add in the stronger than normal, but periodic recurring, "santa anna" winds of 80+mph and you have the conditions for trouble.

But, this isn't the entire story. Due to residential property development next to, within, and near these vast unmanaged forests, the risk of property damage from the inevitable fires is high --virtually a foregone conclusion. Just a matter of time.

Nature will find a way to prune its forests and do the thinning and clearing of the forest floor, if man won't. Such has been going on since before any of us or our ancestors were even born. IT has absolutely nothing to do with alleged GW.

And for the most part, the damage caused by such inevitable fires, both in terms of residential property damage, and damage to the forest itself, is preventable. The answer is better land/forest/timber management decisions and better land use decisions. But, no one wants to listen to that type of common sense. The sheep prefer to blame a boogeyman called GW, blame the govt., blame politicians, and blame pretty much everyone except the ones really responsible ---- the arsonist, the ones making the boneheaded decisions not to engage in any forest/timber management, the ones pushing the decision makers into these decisions, and the landowners for poor land use decisions.

[Bullreds & Greenheads]

In medieval England, to treat jaundice, nine head lice were drowned in a pint of beer. The mixture had to be drunk every morning for a week.

[JJ McGuire]

Letter from Frederick Seitz


Research Review of Global Warming Evidence

Enclosed is a twelve-page review of information on the subject of "global warming," a petition in the form of a reply card, and a return envelope. Please consider these materials carefully.
The United States is very close to adopting an international agreement that would ration the use of energy and of technologies that depend upon coal, oil, and natural gas and some other organic compounds.

This treaty is, in our opinion, based upon flawed ideas. Research data on climate change do not show that human use of hydrocarbons is harmful. To the contrary, there is good evidence that increased atmospheric carbon dioxide is environmentally helpful.

The proposed agreement would have very negative effects upon the technology of nations throughout the world, especially those that are currently attempting to lift from poverty and provide opportunities to the over 4 billion people in technologically underdeveloped countries.

It is especially important for America to hear from its citizens who have the training necessary to evaluate the relevant data and offer sound advice.

We urge you to sign and return the petition card. If you would like more cards for use by your colleagues, these will be sent.

Frederick Seitz
Past President, National Academy of Sciences, U.S.A.
President Emeritus, Rockefeller University


ABSTRACT

A review of the research literature concerning the environmental consequences of increased levels of atmospheric carbon dioxide leads to the conclusion that increases during the 20th and early 21st centuries have produced no deleterious effects upon Earth's weather and climate. Increased carbon dioxide has, however, markedly increased plant growth. Predictions of harmful climatic effects due to future increases in hydrocarbon use and minor greenhouse gases like CO2 do not conform to current experimental knowledge. The environmental effects of rapid expansion of the nuclear and hydrocarbon energy industries are discussed.


SUMMARY

Political leaders gathered in Kyoto, Japan, in December 1997 to consider a world treaty restricting human production of "greenhouse gases," chiefly carbon dioxide (CO2). They feared that CO2 would result in "human-caused global warming" – hypothetical severe increases in Earth's temperatures, with disastrous environmental consequences. During the past 10 years, many political efforts have been made to force worldwide agreement to the Kyoto treaty.

When we reviewed this subject in 1998 (1,2), existing satellite records were short and were centered on a period of changing intermediate temperature trends. Additional experimental data have now been obtained, so better answers to the questions raised by the hypothesis of "human-caused global warming" are now available.

http://www.oism.org/pproject/s33p41.htm

[mudsucker]

Get your buddy Benny to sign yet?

[smyrdebill]

Just the facts-Mamn! The whole solar system is heating up and that is not the cause of burning fossil fuels. CO2 follows a warming and does not precede it--and Gore knew that. That has been proven by studying ice cores at the Anartic. Global warning is but a tool of those who want more control and power.

[Boogerden Boy]

None of this matters anyway, Chuck norris is fixin to roundhouse kick global warming in the face and take its Mom out to dinner with its own lunch money

[triggerjw]

The same people who believe in global warming are the same ones who believe the earth has been around for trillions of years. There is no way man has anything to do with the earth being warmer or cooler. Just no way....

[Bullreds & Greenheads]

Rush bassist and lead singer Geddy Lee owns the world's largest collection of monocles.

[rjohnson]

Weather Channel founder calls GW a SCAM!!! Cites scientists being greedy for grant money manipulating data to prove their theories to keep the funds rolling in and their political "friends" pushing those funds straight to them.

Sunday, November 11, 2007
Weather Channel Founder: Global Warming ‘Greatest Scam in History’

Intro by Joe D’Aleo, Icecap, CCM
I was privileged to work with John Coleman, the founder of The Weather Channel in the year before it became a reality and then for the first of the 6 years I was fortunate to be the Director of Meteorology. No one worked harder than John to make The Weather Channel a reality and to make sure the staffing, the information and technology was the very best possible at that time. John currently works with KUSI in San Diego. He posts regularly. I am very pleased to present his latest insightful post.

By John Coleman

It is the greatest scam in history. I am amazed, appalled and highly offended by it. Global Warming; It is a SCAM. Some dastardly scientists with environmental and political motives manipulated long term scientific data to create an illusion of rapid global warming. Other scientists of the same environmental whacko type jumped into the circle to support and broaden the “research” to further enhance the totally slanted, bogus global warming claims. Their friends in government steered huge research grants their way to keep the movement going. Soon they claimed to be a consensus.

Environmental extremists, notable politicians among them, then teamed up with movie, media and other liberal, environmentalist journalists to create this wild “scientific” scenario of the civilization threatening environmental consequences from Global Warming unless we adhere to their radical agenda. Now their ridiculous manipulated science has been accepted as fact and become a cornerstone issue for CNN, CBS, NBC, the Democratic Political Party, the Governor of California, school teachers and, in many cases, well informed but very gullible environmentally conscientious citizens. Only one reporter at ABC has been allowed to counter the Global Warming frenzy with one 15 minute documentary segment.

I do not oppose environmentalism. I do not oppose the political positions of either party. However, Global Warming, i.e. Climate Change, is not about environmentalism or politics. It is not a religion. It is not something you “believe in.” It is science; the science of meteorology. This is my field of life-long expertise. And I am telling you Global Warming is a non-event, a manufactured crisis and a total scam. I say this knowing you probably won’t believe a me, a mere TV weatherman, challenging a Nobel Prize, Academy Award and Emmy Award winning former Vice President of United States. So be it.

I have read dozens of scientific papers. I have talked with numerous scientists. I have studied. I have thought about it. I know I am correct. There is no run away climate change. The impact of humans on climate is not catastrophic. Our planet is not in peril. I am incensed by the incredible media glamour, the politically correct silliness and rude dismissal of counter arguments by the high priest of Global Warming.

In time, a decade or two, the outrageous scam will be obvious. As the temperature rises, polar ice cap melting, coastal flooding and super storm pattern all fail to occur as predicted everyone will come to realize we have been duped. The sky is not falling. And, natural cycles and drifts in climate are as much if not more responsible for any climate changes underway. I strongly believe that the next twenty years are equally as likely to see a cooling trend as they are to see a warming trend. See John’s full blog story here.. See John’s forecast blog on the KUSI site here.
Posted on 11/11 at 10:56 AM

Sorry couldn't let it die.

[Po Monkey Lounger]

"There is no run away climate change. The impact of humans on climate is not catastrophic. Our planet is not in peril. I am incensed by the incredible media glamour, the politically correct silliness and rude dismissal of counter arguments by the high priest of Global Warming.

In time, a decade or two, the outrageous scam will be obvious. As the temperature rises, polar ice cap melting, coastal flooding and super storm pattern all fail to occur as predicted everyone will come to realize we have been duped. The sky is not falling. And, natural cycles and drifts in climate are as much if not more responsible for any climate changes underway. "
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Pretty much expresses my sentiments ---DITTO!!

Folks, this just goes to show ya --- there are indeed sane people still out there who can debunk this crap. They need to speak out more often.

Long live the GW thread.

[Bullreds & Greenheads]

Yellow canaries that are fed red peppers will turn bright orange.

[Maximum Load]

Yellow canaries that are fed red peppers will turn bright orange.

Must be the global warming heat the pepper gives off that causes that.