Be Carefull Greenhead

The Man · Postby **The Man** » Fri Sep 07, 2001 1:41 pm

Greenhead22,

I've read all of your recent post on possession laws. Here is what the federal law says about the daily bag limit:

TITLE 50--WILDLIFE AND FISHERIES
CHAPTER I--UNITED STATES FISH AND WILDLIFE SERVICE, DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR
PART 20--MIGRATORY BIRD HUNTING--Table of Contents
Subpart C--Taking

Sec. 20.24 Daily limit.

No person shall take in any 1 calendar day, more than the daily bag limit or aggregate daily bag limit, whichever applies.

I hope this will help in your understanding this law.

In your post you keep trying to justify your point and stating that you are not an outlaw. There are several post that would make me believe otherwise.

posted September 05, 2001 04:34 PM

"I kill 15 doves in the morning, and then 15 in the evening, always have, always will."

posted September 05, 2001 05:50 PM

"I have killed my possession limit of waterfowl in one day and probably will again."

posted September 05, 2001 06:04 PM

"If you just hunt Saturday only, and the possession is 12, then you can get the two limits Saturday and go home Sunday with 12 possession, which is legal."

posted September 05, 2001 07:54 PM

" I really don't have to worry about the wardens cuz they are too scared to come down the camp road in fear of getting stuck."

posted September 05, 2001 11:08 PM

"I guess I was taught to misuse the possession limit."

posted September 06, 2001 11:58 AM

"I killed 12 ducks one day last year just to piss my guests off cuz they decided to go goose hunting with someone else instead of duck hunting with me."

All of these post lead me to believe that you don't care about the law when you are hunting. If this is the case you will get a reputation quick of being an outlaw. Once this happens it's hard to ever get rid of it. I'm particular interested in the post dealing with game wardens. It is obvious that I've never heard you fire a shot at a duck. You said that the game wardens where scared to mess with you because of a bad road and political pull... BS !!!!! The right one of us just hasn't heard you shoot yet.

BirdDawgHunter · Postby **BirdDawgHunter** » Fri Sep 07, 2001 2:04 pm

If I read GH22's very last post on that thread correctly, then I believe he realizes his past transgressions and will fly the straight and narrow from now on. At least I hope so.

Dixie Boy · Postby **Dixie Boy** » Mon Sep 10, 2001 7:55 am

Man he's just a little boy who goes to Mississippi State.
Niw do you understand???

dos gris · Postby **dos gris** » Mon Sep 10, 2001 10:44 am

take note

Postby **Greenhead22** » Mon Sep 10, 2001 12:38 pm

Duckwarden, Thanks for the info on the daily bag limit. What I need now is the official terminology of the possession limit, basically when it is legal to have the possession limit, especially when traveling home. For instance, if I kill a limit on saturday and sunday. As I am traveling home you could stop me and ask to see what game I have in my possession. You search and find 12 duck breasts, which you could say that I harvested all the birds that day and not two separate days. Is their anyway to prove different? As for the dealings with game wardens in my area, I can't get into it on here.

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chance · Postby **chance** » Mon Sep 10, 2001 1:36 pm

In the state of Arkansas if the game warden finds 12 duck breast you could receive a ticket for wasting game. It has happened!

Wildfowler · Postby **Wildfowler** » Mon Sep 10, 2001 1:55 pm

It is illegal to transport duck breast fillets. The only way you can legally transport ducks that have been cleaned, is to leave a fully feathered wing or a fully feathered neck and head on the bird. On the flip side, if you are traveling with 12 duck breasts, you could be ticketed for shooting 12 Pintails and you wouldn't be able to prove it.

I also learned this the hard way while on a trip to AR. I don't agree with this, but those game wardens seem bent on enforcing this technicality. Personally, I think they are getting kick-backs from the commercial duck pickers.

What I want to know, is how does the law address someone who travels into another state for 5 days. And shoots the limit each day. How do you legally transport 5 daily limits home? It seems to me that those gung-ho AR wardens have created a situation where otherwise ethical hunters might throw the ducks away, rather than getting caught with them on the ride home. You can't eat them every night. So what do you do?

Duck Warden, may I have your opinion on this?

Postby **Greenhead22** » Mon Sep 10, 2001 2:28 pm

To me there are only three worthy of plucking: teal, woodies, and widgeons. Since I don't have a duck plucker machine I don't usually go to the trouble of plucking mallards and gadwalls cuz they have such a strong taste and aren't good in duck dressing. I de-breast every mallard and gadwall, sometimes I leave the fillets whole and sometimes I cut them up in strips and freeze them. They may enforce that bs law in arkansas but I don't know about that in MS. As for needing the wing or head to indentify the duck, that's bs. I know a lot of people, including myself, that can look at duck breasts or fillets and identify what they are.

Postby **GulfCoast** » Mon Sep 10, 2001 2:37 pm

I dunno, GH22. I have killed a boat load of ducks in my time, and I can look at a teal breast and say "its a teal" but not what kind. I can look at a breasted woodie and say "woodie", most of the time. But I have never met anyone who could look at a skinned, breasted big duck and could tell you what it was.

dos gris · Postby **dos gris** » Mon Sep 10, 2001 2:44 pm

Wildfowler:

Thats kind of the whole purpose of the possession limit its a control method for law enforcement. You can't go to another state and shoot 5 limits and legally bring them back home. If they didn't have this regulation think of how hard it would be to enforce limits. So, if you gonna shoot that many you better be eatin them.

GH22:

So let me get this straight...your telling me if I lay down a blackjack breast and a scaup breast or a canvasback breast your gonna tell me which is which?

Postby **Greenhead22** » Mon Sep 10, 2001 2:46 pm

The only duck that I have a little problem with identifying is the mallard drake or hen. Doesn't matter on teal or woodies because they aren't any specifications on how many hens/drakes can be taken. Dos Gris, In all my years of hunting I have taken one pintail and one canvasback cuz in my area of the state those ducks are seen once in a blue moon. I really don't have a problem identifying ducks that I clean all the time.

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Postby **GulfCoast** » Mon Sep 10, 2001 3:18 pm

You are telling me that I can mix up 2 skinned breasted mottled duck breasts, 2 mallard breasts, and 2 grayducks, and you can pick out which is which????

shiloh · Postby **shiloh** » Mon Sep 10, 2001 3:37 pm

sounds like a little more common sense should be used when abiding by and enforcing these laws that you all speak of. i don't know whose wrong or right(for sure), but i know that you all are confusing the heck out of me. i do know that a friend that i duck hunt with leaves the wings on all of his ducks. he's an older man and really up with the laws, so i would try to do this same thing. why can't things just be simple anymore?????

hawkeye · Postby **hawkeye** » Mon Sep 10, 2001 4:01 pm

Damn GH22, that's the biggest load of bs I may have ever heard. All those years of experience? You're only 21 or 22, and sometimes you act like you're 12 on here. Oh but I guess you've been hunting since you were 2. And since we're on the internet, there's no way to prove otherwise is it.

Postby **Greenhead22** » Mon Sep 10, 2001 4:21 pm

GC, I can tell the difference between the grayducks(gadwalls) and mallards cuz 85% of the ducks I kill are gadwalls. I have never seen a mottle duck before so don't know about that one. Our club members range from 40-70 years old, and were predominately duck hunters in their younger days, and have hunted the same area their whole lives. They hadn't seen a pintail or canvasback in the area until I brought those two in last year. We hadn't had any other ducks in the area besides mallards and woodies til two years ago when the gadwalls and teal invaded the area. Then a few widgeons, pintails, and canvasbacks showed up in the last weekend of the season last year. Sometimes the factor may be the size, texture, or color of the breast, call it BS if you want to, really couldn't care less.

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