Nice! From Evan Graham's "Secret's of the Pros"

[T-Bone]

dont know what gb has been sippin on this morning but I am perty sure he is meaning the SUN am blind!

[70 sprig]

Raise your hand if you handled on marks....

Bwaaaaahahahahahahaha !!!!!!!!!!!

I was so nice to the judges that I roped my dog on Sunday cause of a lil mouth isha , without them asking me too . Still didn't get a ribbon after being so nice to them , damn judges .

[70 sprig]

and yes T , he must be talkin bout Sunday , see that's another thing . Saturday I ran test dog on water and smoked the marks at record pace , three whistled the blind in nice fashion , and still didn't get a ribbon .

Damn judges

[cdwyer]

Evan Graham per Rex Carr-"Never Expect your dog to be more precise than you are."

[goosebruce]

YUP, i meant sunday. lil stressed, prone to make a typo or two. travis

[T-Bone]

and yes T , he must be talkin bout Sunday , see that's another thing . Saturday I ran test dog on water and smoked the marks at record pace , three whistled the blind in nice fashion , and still didn't get a ribbon .

Damn judges

shutdahellup lil ed' twaint nobody listenen to u!

[Troy Williams]

I've been watching the Carr/Rorem tapes lately, (Thanks B3); those guys boggle my mind. I can't follow some of the logic in their instruction.

Like:
Picking up the short dead bird last in training and that's qualifying as attrition to Secondary Selection training. I can't get my head around that.

Couple of things from the tapes. Rex uses collar pressure ALOT to mold ALOT of behaviours. Standards are REAL high. And dogs that do not qualify as winners are sorted out very early(That is an impression I got).

He's an interesting guy to me. Someone asked him a question about a problem. Most questions come from real experience so this person, more than likely, had this problem and he very quickly threw a thumb over his shoulder and said, "Neighbor dog". I laughed.

Troy

Troy

[Sipsey]

Troy, since you have obviously seen the rex car tapes, do you think they're worth the 130 dollars? I was wanting to get them, but I didn't know if they would be worth the buy??

[skuna]

well yall opened this can of worms .......so here goes

At the end of the day, id sure like to know if my dog did the work or not

what about the HUGE discrepency between the two set of judges??

I mean a finished standard to one set of judges .......was not the finished standard to the other judges. And if there is a FINISHED standard, why isn' t that standard required to be met ......instead of an AKC or ?? or someother standard. I mean, I thought I was running a UKC test.

Although we can't change the judges decision or discuss a particular dog's performance persay - Let's DO !

Three dogs. Two passed according to finished UKC standards. No ribbons awarded either dog. ONe dog ran - close to absoutely perfect. Gave a right over cast where the dog took the cast improving his position to the blind for about 10 ft and then began to suck back instead of holding the cast to the right. Sit = cast right over again , dog picked up bird. JUdge stated he failed the dog for not holding ONE CAST. DOG NAILED THE WATER TEST and Hand no OTHER ISSUES. SO...... dog failed for not HOLDING one cast up a hill and ......sucking back toward cover.

Other dog nailed all the marks. No whistle or cast refusals at all. Dog a little excited on the water blind and took 3 whistles to get dog on right line toward blind .........then dog lined the blind. Dog took initial line in corn ...for blind but had to be handled out of corn. But again, no whisle refusals and No cast refusals.

Huge discrepency .......when dogs performed both days ......one day the judges complimented me on how great dog did.......next day ......dog failed test for same excellent performance

Next time have someone video and then play it back....probably not as good of a run as you thought at the time. Every dog you ran had WR and CR...multiple. I thought one of the dogs might pass but the other two were done in on the land blind.....and if they weren't, the water sure finished them off. Not punking on anyone's dog here, just stating facts. They were tough test and ate a lot of dogs up.

[GulfCoast]

What makes me mad about watching video of my dog running is when she hears the whistle come out of the farging TV and sits on a dime, but gave me the finger during the run......

[gator]

it ain't nothing for you bunch of criminals to totally bastardize a thread is it?

gator

[GulfCoast]

This is MSDucks. What do you expect? Lucidity from this bunch.....?

[gator]

i ain't sayin nothin..............i'm just sayin

gator

[Troy Williams]

Troy, since you have obviously seen the rex car tapes, do you think they're worth the 130 dollars? I was wanting to get them, but I didn't know if they would be worth the buy??

Yes! Any video from THE top names is going to be worth the money IMO.

Troy

[Tripp DuPerrieu]

I have these on DVD on the way...kinda' itchin' for them to get here.