Benalli vs Browning vs Remington (automatics)

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Postby Bustin' Ducks » Wed Jan 29, 2003 9:22 pm

I shoot the 11-87 3"...No problems UNTIL the rubber O ring gets stretched just a smidgin'....Only problem though....Hot loads light loads doesnt matter....Very balanced gun..Oh yeah don't forget the GOLD TRIGGER!! LOL
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Postby CB » Thu Jan 30, 2003 9:02 am

Hey guys, just putting in my two cents worth! I have shot a Benelli Super 90 for the past five years and I have been very pleased with it. From doves too ducks it has proven itself time and time again. Have not had it hang-up a time. Easy to breakdown and clean, it has been a very reliable gun for me. It shoots 3 inch shells and really thats all you need.
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Postby Redhead » Thu Jan 30, 2003 9:23 am

My Dad has a SBE that has fell apart in the Duckblind for the third (and last) year in a row. Some folks have good luck with them. I would shoot one if someone gave it to me, and my EXTREMA was not within 40 miles walking distance! There is no comparison in the two!

If you want the ultimate shotgun for duck hunting get you an EXTREMA! but you might want to invest in Kent or Winchester Shotgunshells before you get one these thing are like the energizer bunny they just keep on going and going and going......

oh yea, that BGH piece of junk dont even consider it! I can give you several #'s that would back me up on that one! 8) 8)
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Postby Greenhead22 » Thu Jan 30, 2003 9:43 am

Hey Delta Duck, I heard the real truth about you and your "real deal" benelli's, just forgot to mention it when I heard about it a couple of months ago. I heard that on several occasions you have been seen going into a corner in an attempt to hide from everyone else so they wouldn't see that your benelli had jammed, and the witness also told me that you have been known to cuss that benelli alot. You just never know who is watching............ :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby Labs & Ducks » Thu Jan 30, 2003 11:15 am

SBE!! - It's like an extension of your arm.
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Postby CRAWDUCK » Thu Jan 30, 2003 11:58 am

I have a Nova an SBE and Beretta Urika. I shoot different guns at different times but if I was only going to shoot one gun it would without a doubt be the SBE. I goose hunt in TX with heavy loads and dove hunt with it with not cycling problems at all. Don't get me wrong I really like the other guns I have and have no problems at all with them. In fact I just bought my son a NOVA of his own because I was tired of him "borrowing" it. I like the variety of shooting all of them but the SBE is the creme of the crop.
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Postby GulfCoast » Thu Jan 30, 2003 5:44 pm

I have owned 2 SBE's. Mine were jokes, I would never have another. To light, very prone to jam, long history of welds failing, ejector claws cracking, problems with light loads, and both mine jammed all the time until I put sure cycles in them. I have seen the barrels fall off 2 SBE's when barrel rings snapped. The emporer has no clothes. I have seen the SBE's of folks on this board go south on them, but I won't embarrass anyone and call names.

I have 4 Browning Golds, no real problems, other than one of mine hates PMC shells cause they pooch, and one broken firing pin. One has 28,000 (no kidding) rounds through it. It will shoot 7/8 loads all day, right out of the box. Great guns. I have taken to cleaning mine every 1200 rounds whether they need it or not.

Xtrema ( I own one of these,too) has the worst trigger I have ever seen in a production gun, and is not drilled and tapped for swivels. Mine won't shoot light loads, but it only has about 400 rounds through it. It could be a great gun if they would fix the trigger.

391 is probably pound for pound the best gun out there, if you don't need 3.5" capacity.
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Postby chapper » Fri Jan 31, 2003 8:39 am

I have an SBE and it hung up some the first year i used it. This is the 3rd year and i shot 8 boxes of shells through it and had it hang up once. I clean it once a year, whether it needs it or not and i'm not too careful with it during the season.

I am not a marksman by any stretch, but i shoot considerably better with the SBE than any other gun i have owned. I'd buy another one.
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Postby RNAIL » Fri Jan 31, 2003 10:06 am

Super 90, 3", doves to ducks, I love the way it handles when you swing on a bird. My history of guns started in 1960 when my dad let me shoot his double barrel 16 ga. Stevens. He passed on in 1964 so I quail and dove hunted with it until 1973. Then I upgraded to a little gem, 20 ga. Remington 1100. Dove and ducks with it and never a problem, and my son has it now. He can out shoot me in the dove field and me using the Bennelli. Anyway from the 1100 got a Browning Citori o/u with skeet barrels. Loved that gun, got desperate for money and had to sell it. Worst decision I ever made. Next a Browning BPS with 24" barrel, best pump I ever shot. Love the way it patterned too. Finally in 2000 traded BPS in on the Bennelli. Never a real problem except if I let the bolt forward manually the locking lug might not turn and seat properly. I later found that it just had crudd build up from powder residue and swipe with a Q-tip fixed that. I have never regretted buying the Bennelli but sure do miss my Brownings. My opinon is the Super 90 instead of the SBE. The 3 1/2" shell prices and cost of gun versus the 3" is not worth the price. Just practice shooting clays with whatever you get and your shell to bird ratio will greatly increase. My 2 cents worth.
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Postby Delta Duck » Fri Jan 31, 2003 11:11 am

Greenhead 22 I just looked ar your post.

I think you have been misinformed, in other words lied too! I will tell it like it is. I bought 2 xtrema's hoping and thinking they would be the next Real Deal. They don't hold a candle stick to the SBE. I wish they had!

The only time my SBE has hung up was when a limb got broke off in it and I didn't know.
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Postby Meeka » Fri Jan 31, 2003 11:30 am

I loved my SBE. The light weight when duck hunting can't be beaten. Yes the ejector is a problem in older guns.

If you treat that pricey gun like a duck gun, and I do, it will get wet when you are wading, hunting in rain, etc. Advice to other SBE owners, replace the spring in the stock.

One thing the SBE can't do is get wedged in tight between the front rack and handlebars of an Arctic Cat with Munro driving and the gun sticking out a little too far and get into a jousting match with an oak tree! The SBE looses. Will know soon if I have an entire loss. If so, I don't yet know what I will do.
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Postby Nitro Mag » Fri Jan 31, 2003 12:20 pm

I love my 391 Urika. BGH is a good gun and shouldn't give you much trouble as long as you keep it clean. One hell of a pattern to. Got 2 buddies with SBE and they are always jamming or self destructing. If you really want a reliable 3.5, get you an Beretta Onyx 686 aver and under. Personally though I love my 391 and don't see the need for 3.5". Once again this is just my opinion, most all are good guns just your personal choice.

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Postby backwater » Sun Feb 02, 2003 12:30 am

Beretta Beretta Beretta!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! My 390 hung up on me this year for the first time....I cleaned it real good and switched ammo and it hasn't missed a beat since. It didn't like those Kent's :shock: ...started putting those Winchesters through it again and it did what it was suppose to. Nothing but a sweet smooth shooting shotgun...in my opinion a Beretta is the way to go. Mine loves those light dove loads. Forget the Benelli unless you want a good pump in the Nova.
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Postby GulfCoast » Sun Feb 02, 2003 7:58 am

For whatever reason, some individual guns will simply HATE a certain brand of shells from a feeding/ejecting standpoint. It usually has something to do with the length of the shell and the headspace. I have a Browning Gold that will eat anything all day, but balk at PMC shells. I have a friend whose SBE will lock up tighter than Delta Duck's hatband with Federal shells, but spit out the rest of 'em all day. I have seen it more often with "ribbed" hulls than slick sided hulls like Winchesters and most Remingtons.
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Postby SoftCall » Sun Feb 02, 2003 9:36 pm

I have been shooting a Browning gold for the past 4 seasons. It's a well worn gun. It took me a full season to figure it out. The gun would constantly hang when cycling a shell. Here is the key..you have to break it down after every hunt and pull the trigger mechanism. Knock off ALL of the oil with brake clean (or gun scrubber if you want to spend 4 times as much for the same stuff). Oil the heck out of it - especially the little feeder arm that throws the shell into the chamber so the bolt can close. It's ok for one good hunt after that. That's a lot of work for anybody.

I am not trying to suggest purchasing one. If I were in the market to buy - I would get an over and under. I guarantee that it will fire faster than any auto out there. Mine has never failed me :wink: Just don't freak out if it gets dinged or scratched. It's just a tool like anything else..hehehehehe :D
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