Take Me Back Tuesday: GLOBAL WARMING CORRAL

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Postby MSDawg870 » Tue Apr 17, 2007 2:37 pm

Sorry Mudsucker this thread is like Skoal I cannot stop the addiction. :(

Jesus would say "Hammer are you aware that this is the coldest April in 100 years." :lol:
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Postby TODO » Tue Apr 17, 2007 2:54 pm

Hammer stated in another thread that he is from a 7th generation farm family from the delta, which i assume gives him more insight into this whole mess than someone, say, 7 generations from jackson. WTF does that have to do with anything?
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Postby mudsucker » Tue Apr 17, 2007 2:59 pm

MSDawg870 wrote:Sorry Mudsucker this thread is like Skoal I cannot stop the addiction. :(

Jesus would say "Hammer are you aware that this is the coldest April in 100 years." :lol:
BAWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby Bullreds & Greenheads » Tue Apr 17, 2007 3:25 pm

I don't know how useful these 15 pages of tripe would be for a scientist studying global warming, but if there is a grad student in psychology reading this stuff, he no longer has to worry about a dissertation subject. :lol:

Honestly, I have had more fun with this thread than any other. 8)
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Postby Hammer » Tue Apr 17, 2007 4:13 pm

Let the pigeons loose! Strike up the band! Round up all the usual suspects!

The coldest April in 15 years will refreeze the polar ice caps, rebuild the glaciers, the Transalyeska pipeline will quit sinking, yada, yada, yada...

But what about the CO2 concentrations? How many times do I have to say it- forget the weather patterns and focus on the chemistry to unlock the truth on this issue

Regarding BR&GH- Ditto!
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Postby mudsucker » Tue Apr 17, 2007 8:50 pm

I told you! If we have a fire aboard my ship, I will refrain from using the CO2 exting. devices! :roll:
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Postby Hammer » Wed Apr 18, 2007 2:22 pm

Want more information? Do an Internet search on "atmospheric carbon dioxide" and see what ORNL, NOAA and many other government and university researchers have learned about this issue...

Bottomline is this: THE NAYSAYERS COULD NOT BE MORE WRONG...THE SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE IS OVERWHELMING...SEE FOR YOURSELF.
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Postby mudsucker » Wed Apr 18, 2007 3:26 pm

Bottom line: I'll be dead in 50 years or less anyway! :roll:
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Postby Bullreds & Greenheads » Wed Apr 18, 2007 9:14 pm

EVERYBODY!!!
STOP BREATHING!!!
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Postby mudsucker » Wed Apr 18, 2007 9:59 pm

Bullreds & Greenheads wrote:EVERYBODY!!!
STOP BREATHING!!!
Maybe in 50 years damnit! :x
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Postby Po Monkey Lounger » Thu Apr 19, 2007 9:08 am

SHAAAAAZAM!!!! Newsflash!!!

Yesterday, in wire reports in the newspaper, it is reported that GW may actually lessen the severity and frequency of hurricanes. :shock:

Did anyone really not see this coming? There were dire predictions last year of more and stronger hurricanes to hit the US than we have ever seen since historical records were kept. All due to GW. Yet, the "hurricane season" came and went with barely a whimper. So, what do the GW "scientists" do? --mother nature is not cooperating to perpetuate their theory. Panic sets in. And then,....an epiphany occurs....adapt and overcome. Create a theory that is proven regardless of the actual weather. IF we have a very active hurricane season ---- GW. IF we have few, if any hurricanes ---again, GW. See how this works?


This is just TFF. You can't make up stuff this entertaining. :lol:
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Postby Hammer » Thu Apr 19, 2007 9:29 am

As I have said repeatedly, if you focus on weather, you will miss the forest for the trees...Global warmng is a SYMPTOM..The cause is CO2 saturation....

Got another newsflash for you: CO2 saturation affects biochemcial processes in plants....Bees feed on plants, bee numbers are down 90%...Is there a correlation? Only time and science will tell but it seems plausible....

You keep referencing the mass media which is in the BUSINESS of selling NEWS...No controversy, no emotional angst = no news = nothing to sell....I keep telling you to go to the source...The actual studies, the scientists doing the studies and the organizations representing those scientists....Why wont you do that? Why wont you give us some science to back up your "natural cycles" hypothesis?
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Postby Hammer » Thu Apr 19, 2007 1:20 pm

S&P to rate carbon funds
17 April, 2007

Standard & Poor’s is to begin rating carbon funds, following “unsolicited demand” from carbon fund managers. The credit rating agency hopes to publish later this year its first ratings, which would most likely examine the likelihood of the funds defaulting, Mike Wilkins, head of infrastructure finance, told Carbon Finance.

“We’re seeing people come to us for views on how carbon caps and carbon trading are affecting companies’ credit quality,” Wilkins said. “Over the past couple of months, we’ve had some unsolicited enquiries from carbon funds for ratings.”

Wilkins added that the company is currently devising a methodology for rating funds. However, he expects that S&P will look at the underlying emissions reduction projects in which the funds are investing and possibly at the creditworthiness of companies developing the projects.

While S&P rates some investment funds on their financial performance, carbon funds would instead most likely be assessed on their creditworthiness, combining their probability of default with likely loss recovery to generate an expected loss figure, said Wilkins.

The rating could be used by investors for benchmarking, allowing them to compare the funds’ returns with other investments of a similar credit risk, and by banks to help them assess how much capital to set aside against fund investments, he added.

The ratings would be paid for by the fund managers themselves, said Wilkins, noting thatthey could be used to help market the fund. He added that S&P does not carry out unsolicited ratings, but “we would look at whoever asked us”. “There is a growing amount of appetite for views on this sector,” said Wilkins, noting that the company has significant demand for such a service, “and we haven’t even marketed it yet.”

An alternative credit rating system for the carbon market is being developed by IDEAcarbon, a provider of ratings, research and strategic advice on carbon finance. A spokesman for the company declined to give any details of how the methodology would work but said it hoped to launch the service in the next few weeks.
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Postby Hammer » Thu Apr 19, 2007 1:23 pm

I GUESS OLD GORDON PARSONS WAS REFERRING TO YOU NAYSAYSERS WHEN HE SAID "Few would doubt...."


Businesses 'face tougher climate change legislation'

London, 19 April: All businesses should be taking action to address their impact on climate change, according to a white paper by Npower Business and Forum for the Future, as tighter restrictions on their emissions are inevitable.

Gordon Parsons, managing director of Npower Business, part of German energy group E.ON, said: "Few would now doubt that they must begin to address climate change in their business operations, but for many businesses it is still not a priority. Our hope is that the white paper will underline how important it is that they act now if we are to avoid massive legislative changes to dictate businesses' environmental operations."

In the white paper, Npower Business and Forum for the Future, a sustainable development think-tank, say that all businesses – not just those in high impact sectors – should be discussing the risks and opportunities posed by climate change at board level, as well as understanding and planning to address the climate impact on their operations.

In addition, companies should develop "products and services that out-perform competitors in terms of climate impact and which, over time, provide solutions to climate change", the white paper says, as part of a five point-plan setting out what "smart companies" will be doing.

Companies should also have a position on the contribution they and their sector will make in achieving emission reduction goals, as well as engaging in a "progressive and consistent" way with the political debate on climate change.

The white paper warns UK businesses to expect more stringent government legislation to encourage the transition to a low-carbon economy. "The combination of scientific necessity, increasing political will, and corporate and consumer interest in climate change suggests that an additional regulatory response to bring about a low-carbon economy is inevitable. Carbon will essentially be 'squeezed' out of the economy, either by direct regulation or pricing."

"When this regulatory pressure is combined with the low-carbon expectations that leading businesses are starting to place on their supply chains, it becomes obvious that all companies, no matter what size or sector, will have to respond," said Iain Watt, principal sustainability advisor at Forum for the Future and author of the report.

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