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Postby Ham Hock » Sun Dec 03, 2006 6:15 pm

Well Gator, if you dont like my STUFF, then why read it? How come you gotta clear your nostriles every time I have something to say, if you don't like doing so? whats the deal? You know, I want to say some things here, but I dont want to argue with gators that cant decide if they will come on the bank and talk, or lay with their eyes above water. Get up on the bank, talk about what I had to say, or stay in the water and wait on the next fish. You just spashin water man.....
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Postby Unlucky Duck » Sun Dec 03, 2006 6:19 pm

To set the record straight my friend, doubtful. Conservation, you do not have a clue! This is the topic that came up while in the duck blind on Sat. Morning. Once you become a landowner your way of thinking changes dramatically. Case and point. Friend of mine brought a guest hunting with us to hunt my land and we had birds. His comment was lets get the birds out of here and come back about 8:30 for the mid morning flight and get another limit. Of course this is the mind set of most people who lease land or hunt public land. But once you own the land then you had rather save the birds for another day and another group of friends to tell stories with in the duck blind than shoot them all in one day. That was the thinking behind the original post.
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Postby Ham Hock » Sun Dec 03, 2006 6:22 pm

Heck man, that is a GOOD philosophy, except you and I dont see friends as the same thing. But the DUCK THING is GOOD. You and me are brothers, you just dont know it yet.
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Postby Ducks be us » Sun Dec 03, 2006 6:24 pm

Pass that over here...BOGARTS :shock: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby quack fiend » Sun Dec 03, 2006 6:26 pm

Oh good grief, how long 'til the ducksouth anti-christ goes nuclear this time? It's sure been nice here since he was banned, guess we'll have to keep the kids off this site again..... :evil:
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Postby Chocolate Seal » Sun Dec 03, 2006 6:28 pm

Dang, I cant believe I just now read this. ITS GETTIN GOOOOOOD! We aint had one in a while :lol:
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Postby legends of the lower mars » Sun Dec 03, 2006 6:28 pm

Man, Yall shut up for a minute! hehehe!!!:lol: :lol: :lol: I'm having reflections from my youth right now! :wink:

Ham Hock wrote:But my elders KNEW the ducks, and that was one thing that I shut my mouth about, even all the chores, I didnt question it. They KNEW and they taught me TOO.


Man those were the days... I remember one of my mentors tactics was to paddle the bayou's for miles at night to listen to ducks and find out how many were holding in the area; because his philosophy was that ducks would disperse from thier large overnighting groups at daylight and you couldn't tell the true numbers using the area. I swear that joker knew how to count ducks! I don't know how, but he did! I remember times when he said, not enough birds; we're fishing in the morning instead. I usually paddled for him most of the time. He was 72 and I was 13. If I could only jump backwards in time... Those were the best days!

I'm finished. Yall may continue to rant!!! :roll:
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Postby Ham Hock » Sun Dec 03, 2006 6:44 pm

You know what? If I could JUST go back in time, and ASK those men, who put us on ducks, over and over and over, how are yall DOIN THIS? But I was so little then, they just practically grabbed me by the collar like a bag of decoys. But man, in them days, did the birds EVER FLY. It was SOMETHING. I saw flights of mallards on the cup that you will never see in your life.
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Postby Ham Hock » Sun Dec 03, 2006 6:52 pm

The whole reason this type of post gets elongated is because he originally asked a question about "Morals and personal Ethics". He dinot say a thing about the law, and I think he was smart to do that. They have nothing to do with each other. He asked about your morals, be he did so in such a way that he has no IDEA how wide a birth can be culled from that queation. And how much THAT question plays into the SPORT of duck hunting. And I think a LOT of you know what I am talking about.
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Postby legends of the lower mars » Sun Dec 03, 2006 6:53 pm

Now that I'm in the reflection mode; I truly wonder how many people on this forum were fortunate enough to have at least someone that knew ducks and conservation; to educate them when they were young??? Of my friends, only a handfull had parents or mentors to show and teach them...

By the way, I also agree with ya Ben. The question was too broad... Too open ended. Plenty of room for speculation.
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Postby Ham Hock » Sun Dec 03, 2006 6:57 pm

Shoot, folks think you got to have morals to shoot ducks right. I say that is just stupid. Ducks teach you morals and ethics, if you will listen. Heck anybody shooting ducks that already has those values needs to be in conservation or trying to get a greek ship off the bottom of the mediteranian or in a mental ward......

This game aint for intellects ya know.

It's a sport that teaches you values, if you will just pay enough attention to be consistently successful.

And guys just fuss and fuss and fuss, that they have values. It's amazing.
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It's nothing new, but it sure has a stink in duck hunting world like every place else. Like I said, those that love it, are the whores for those who want to pretend they can screw.

I wish that most of them would just take up Golf.
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Postby Super Black Eagle » Sun Dec 03, 2006 7:15 pm

gator wrote:
Ham Hock wrote:What else can I say?


my guess, a WHOLE LOT.


HAHAHAHA :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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As to the main thread here?
If I make it to MS this weekend, with 10 hunting days already passed, would it make any difference if I shot 30 ducks on the first morning? I would still be 50% less that my limit if I hunted all 10 days prior?

What would make it any more or less ethical for me to shoot 6 birds on Saturday and Sunday, or to shoot 12 birds on Saturday and let them rest the other six days?

If there were no limits, I would shoot as many as I could in a hunt, as I only get to hunt maybe two weeks of the season.
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Postby Ham Hock » Sun Dec 03, 2006 7:21 pm

would it make any difference if I shot 30 ducks on the first morning? I would still be 50% less that my limit if I hunted all 10 days prior?


Have you provided any habitat that the birds can use in your abscense to make the overall migration and your participation in it, better than it would be, if you hadnt hunted?

If you cant do that, then it probably does make a difference.

If there were no limits, I would shoot as many as I could in a hunt


That is why we have standad limits for everyone. People who put their resources and land into feeding ducks, which number in the thousands, and help the overall migration in very good ways, can shoot just as many ducks as you can, when you migrate to a place, have done absolutely nothing to help the ducks, just looking for your birds.

If there were no limits, I would shoot as many as I could in a hunt


The fact that the Govt is fully aware that people like you are the norm, is why other men cant shoot their fair share, and if you dont thinkg your share is fare, then you need to go straight to hell.

If it wasnt for sparse resources here and the department of tourism, you would be at home whittling on the porch.
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Postby ducman77 » Sun Dec 03, 2006 7:26 pm

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Postby Double R 2 » Sun Dec 03, 2006 7:27 pm

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