Judge rules much of Mississippi River off limits to anglers

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Postby marshman » Sun Oct 22, 2006 1:38 pm

Jelly wrote:
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BR549 wrote:I can assure you Lake Jackson and all of Lake Jackson is PRIVATELY OWNED!!!!! Different ownerships but all privately owned. They own the ramps too! They do allow fishing on the lake but NO HUNTING!!


So what your saying is the lake is privately owned? So I guess Lakes Lee, Washington, and Ferguson are too? According to your logic that would seem so wouldn't it? Or maybe you are one of the few folks who hunt Lake Jackson and want to keep it for yourself!

Thanks Wingman for the response. I will call Jackson next week to see if I can get some info on this.


I think he's saying the ramps are privately owned. They don't mind people fishing it though. I assume there truely is no public access.


There is a county owned road running right by the ramp. The ramp may be leased to the MDWFP but that still should make the lake a public lake.
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Postby marshman » Sun Oct 22, 2006 1:44 pm

BR549 wrote:I can assure you Lake Jackson and all of Lake Jackson is PRIVATELY OWNED!!!!! Different ownerships but all privately owned. They own the ramps too! They do allow fishing on the lake but NO HUNTING!!


If the lake itself IS privately owned, then why does the MDWFP have a special 2 bass limit on it? If its privately owned then all it amounts to is a 400 acre pond no different than any other private pond on any one else's land. To my knowledge the MDWP does not regulate any other private ponds in the state.
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Postby JDgator » Sun Oct 22, 2006 1:45 pm

solution:

What we need is a utility truck, the kind with the boom that lifts workers up to fix power lines. Just load up two hunters at a time, and swing them over the 10 feet of private property, and onto a piroge in the water. Then pick em up at noon. :D
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Postby Wingman » Sun Oct 22, 2006 2:00 pm

If the lake itself IS privately owned, then why does the MDWFP have a special 2 bass limit on it?


Nice work on that research.
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Postby duckkiller » Sun Oct 22, 2006 3:34 pm

I have always been told that Lake Jackson was privately owned also, it makes no sense about the ramp but I do know it has a cable and lock across it durring the winter months.
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Postby duckkiller » Sun Oct 22, 2006 3:42 pm

I emailed a guy at the mdwfp and he should get back to me sometime tomorrow hopefully. I asked if the lake was public or private and why we couldnt hunt it if the MDWFP had a ramp on it. I will post his remarks when I get them
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Postby Wingman » Sun Oct 22, 2006 6:10 pm

The ramp is private..according to the website it lists a $3 launch fee. This means whoever owns the ramp can choose to let you launch there for a fee. They could close it whenever they wished, since it is not a free, public boat ramp.

If they close it, then there would be no public access to the public water.

Same way with all pay to launch ramps on public oxbows. If the ramp owners decided to close the ramps and there were no free public ramps (like the ones MDWFP leases for public use) then there would be no public access unless you could come in from the old river chute out of the public river.

When the MDWFP leases a boat ramp, they find a landowner willing to lease an acre or two of land to put a boat ramp on. The MDWFP builds a ramp and the public can launch there free of charge until the lease expires (usually 20 years). Many private individuals build their own ramp on their land and charge a fee to launch into the public water.

Remember, the land is private even though the water is public. You can't trespass across private land to get to the public water.
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Postby Don Miller » Sun Oct 22, 2006 8:25 pm

If you were to fly in on a float plane, would that be legal?
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Postby Wingman » Sun Oct 22, 2006 10:57 pm

I don't see why not. I've always wanted to do that but never could get the floats to stay taped to the wheels after the tape got wet.

Mark, if you will purchase a set of amphibious floats, we'll put 'em on my 170 and hunt the country 8)
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Postby mudsucker » Mon Oct 23, 2006 1:45 am

NOW that would be a show for Outdoor Channel! ""Dawn Millah" and "Wingy" Hunt the Country"! Watch as two rednecks, who on occasion have been know to shout out,"Hey Y'all watch this!", go by way of a two seater plane with pontoons taped on the wheels to attempt to hunt any and all waters that are public domain but have "private access". Watch 'em get shot at, cursed, and threatened with lawsuits from every good "Dr. and Lawers" camp from coast to coast! :lol:
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Postby torch » Mon Oct 23, 2006 6:58 am

Mudsucker there is my "outdoor" show. It would be the first "REALITY HUNTING SHOW". :lol:
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Postby Stano » Mon Oct 23, 2006 7:40 pm

I suspect the Faa might have a little input on that hehe :P
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Postby BR549 » Tue Oct 24, 2006 5:40 pm

As a matter of fact I do hunt there occasionaly. But only as a guest of one of the landowners!
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Postby BR549 » Tue Oct 24, 2006 5:44 pm

you claim all water is "public"? you think property lines stop at waters edge? Ever hear of a "patent deed"? All those deeds over there run to the center of the lake! If one side doesn't own it the other does IT"S POSTED!

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