Judge rules much of Mississippi River off limits to anglers

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Postby crackhead » Tue Oct 17, 2006 2:47 pm

Does anyone have a big ars flipper cause Dutchie boy has been smoked! Another few seconds on that side and he'll be burned slap up. That'll leave skidd marks. Way to go BullSprig!!!
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Postby Jelly » Tue Oct 17, 2006 3:10 pm

bullsprig wrote:Dutch Dog:

why call some one a punk booty you dont even know. i have known will for a while and it sounds to me from your comments you dont know him at all. for you to call him a punk booty is crazy. just because he has a piece of property that we all wish we had, does not make him a punk booty. i guess anyone who has a large farm with awesome hunting is a punk booty to you. or anyone who hunts on primos videos are punk booty's to you. because outside of those things i know of nothing he has done to anyone except be a concerned outdoorsman who has done more for the promotion of wildlife in MS and southeast then you and your closest 10 friends will ever do. he is simply looking out for the protection of his property and his investment.

this is a similar mentality to the welfare society. hell if i cant afford to have a good life (nice farm in this case) then i guess i should be able to freely use someone else's. this is simply an effort to keep people off his property.

since you obviously dont mind other people on your property, i need to park a double wide in your front yard. oh but wait a minute.....if you dont want people on your property then i guess it make you a silver spoonin punk booty.........

just some thoughts.


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Postby Don Miller » Wed Oct 18, 2006 8:14 am

If Beaverdam is now public, what about Annis Brake and Bobo Brake? I've always wanted to hunt there after years of hearing Billy Andrews talk about it. :D
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Postby tunica » Wed Oct 18, 2006 8:30 am

Most of the North chute on Tunica Cutoff is now posted and the land that does not belong to the two hunting clubs are also posted by one individual. So dont anyone try and hunt on those 42 acres I posted.


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Postby Don Miller » Wed Oct 18, 2006 8:42 am

I pretty sure all of that is now public. Me and some of my buddies from South Carolina are planning on hunting there opening morning.
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Postby tunica » Wed Oct 18, 2006 8:51 am

Don Miller wrote:I pretty sure all of that is now public. Me and some of my buddies from South Carolina are planning on hunting there opening morning.



Come on you and the other 5 million or so can share the only spot I dont claim...and yes I got MY blind on the Island and thats alll MINE TOO.
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Postby Don Miller » Wed Oct 18, 2006 10:58 am

I'm almost positive that once the water got up the blind on the island is public too. That's where we are planning to hunt. I didn't know that you claimed it.
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Postby tunica » Wed Oct 18, 2006 10:59 am

Don Miller wrote:I'm almost positive that once the water got up the blind on the island is public too.



not with the moat I've dug around it.....
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Postby Don Miller » Wed Oct 18, 2006 11:02 am

Was that done before or after the ruling. I'm positive it's public waters.
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Postby tunica » Wed Oct 18, 2006 11:21 am

Don Miller wrote:Was that done before or after the ruling. I'm positive it's public waters.




I dredged it the last time Anderson & Tully needed up the chute to load barges. I guess it was around 87. The Island was created with the mud I relocated from the channel. I did use a drag line in 94 after the flood of 93 to reclaim the area I designated as " The Island". I'll be more than glad to show you the boundry stakes. Although it is private I do allow a select few to use MY property. Oh did anyone tell you Frank Bell field is open I'm leasing it out cheap. Ya want in
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Postby Wingman » Wed Oct 18, 2006 5:00 pm

Oxbows are public and the laws and court decisions are there to prove it.

You've got to have permission to cross private land to get to the public oxbow...hence the reason some of the oxbows have never been accessed by the public.

But where there's a public road crossing an oxbow, and that public road is paid for and kept up by public tax money, you've got an access to the public oxbow.

If the water comes up to the shoulder of the road, and you are in between the banks of the old channel, I would fight tooth and nail if I got a trespassing ticket.

If you step off the shoulder of the road and cross any length of private land (land outside the banks or any dry land in the bed of the channel) to get to the public water, you probably will get a trespassing ticket.

Some of these county roads run right around the edge of the bank of these oxbows. Under MS law, you can't legally leave the ROW of the road, walk down the dry bank and enter the water unless you have landowner permission. Remember, the dry ground is posted. You could run and jump and land in the water, but you are gonna have a booger of a time getting back to the truck without trespassing.

I am no geologist, but I would say Annis Brake and several others are in the same situation as all the other oxbows.....navigable in fact at the time of MS statehood and created by a public waterway....which means they are public water.

Just think, if Moon Lake had no public boat ramps, the public would have no access. But since Hwy 1 runs across the ends of the lake, you can walk down the highway ROW and into the lake without going across private land.

Beaver Dam is just one of the many oxbows that have no public boat ramps...but it does have a public road.

No doubt, big $ and horse hockey have kept many public holes "posted" for years. If you will do your research and stay within the law, you won't have any problems.
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Postby woundedduck » Wed Oct 18, 2006 7:38 pm

good job sprig. i have about had it with people attacking an individual's character and credibility on the internet. if you don't have something good to say then don't say it at all. you don't know a damn thing about the guy besides the fact that he can shoot a bow, and he has a little money. i think this is what bothers you the most by looking at your comments. if "you" want to buy some great hunting land and hunt with the primos.....then go work and become a rich booty yourself. set a goal...follow through. anything is possible.
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Postby tunica » Thu Oct 19, 2006 4:37 am

woundedduck wrote:good job sprig. i have about had it with people attacking an individual's character and credibility on the internet. if you don't have something good to say then don't say it at all. you don't know a damn thing about the guy besides the fact that he can shoot a bow, and he has a little money. i think this is what bothers you the most by looking at your comments. if "you" want to buy some great hunting land and hunt with the primos.....then go work and become a rich booty yourself. set a goal...follow through. anything is possible.



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Postby quackback2um » Thu Oct 19, 2006 12:07 pm

Some states have addressed this issue by stating "normal mean tide." Meaning that under normal conditions any water navigable is legally huntable. (this is not necessarily flood stage) With that said, any amount of extra "ground" due to the water rise is at that point not huntable. The state of Alabama went one step further. They allow you to navigate but the instant that your decoy weight hits the bottom you at that point are trespassing. Because the land under the "flood water" still belongs to the deed holder. ANY game taken from flood water of non-public land is illegal without written permission from the landowner. 40 acres of continuos unbroken land must be visible (deer, turkeys, etc.) It all adds up to one issue. Greed. By both the landowner and the hunter. Do only to a landowner as you would have them do to you and it'll be okay.
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Postby mudsucker » Thu Oct 19, 2006 12:56 pm

Tide has NO effect that far up river!
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