Judge rules much of Mississippi River off limits to anglers

[Grommet]

It seems to be alittle more complicated than just that Charlie. Alot of the land that you speak of was under water not that long along historically speaking. Just because it is dry or wet today does not neccesarily mean it will be tomorrow. The town of Rodney used to be on the Mississippi river it is now over a mile from the river. Homesites that were 100' deep are now 1 mile deep. These people benefited from the change in course of the river. If someone benefited someone else lost. It's a zero sum game.

[LODI QUACKER]

Simple fact, you buy river frontage, when the river is down thats your property when the river is up you do not have any property. Thats the way it is, you cant claim part of The MS river or any other moving body of water that rises and falls with water FLOW. Just something you have to think about when you buy property on the border of a river. Hell if it starts raining and the river is up for 5 years over your land do you think you can keep people of that section of the river for 5 years. I dont think so! Just like dude said if you deed says your prop starts at the bank of the river it can go good for you or bad, freakin get over it. Property owners on the river are always going to have people over there prop in high water conditions. The problem is the SOBS that think they own the world. Just because you paid for it dont mean you OWN it. Next thing you know landowners will say that you cant fly an airplane over MY property. "DATS MY AIR!" I call BS.

[chadrideduck]

BS is you don't have any land next to the river or a river so you don't care. If you did, it would piss you off that people think they can just go anywhere. BS is you thinking you can come on my club just because you can float there. If anyone ever floated onto your property while you were killing ducks and waved at you like "what's up", it would piss you off to no end. People who are for being able to hunt LAND, just because it floods, obviously don't have any LAND that floods or it would piss you off. End of story.

[Jelly]

Simple fact, you buy river frontage, when the river is down thats your property when the river is up you do not have any property. Thats the way it is, you cant claim part of The MS river or any other moving body of water that rises and falls with water FLOW. Just something you have to think about when you buy property on the border of a river. Hell if it starts raining and the river is up for 5 years over your land do you think you can keep people of that section of the river for 5 years. I dont think so! Just like dude said if you deed says your prop starts at the bank of the river it can go good for you or bad, freakin get over it. Property owners on the river are always going to have people over there prop in high water conditions. The problem is the SOBS that think they own the world. Just because you paid for it dont mean you OWN it. Next thing you know landowners will say that you cant fly an airplane over MY property. "DATS MY AIR!" I call BS.

Sounds like someone is a little jealous.

It's the law, you can't hunt flooded water out of the banks of the river. I didn't make the rule, it's just there.

[Grommet]

BS is you don't have any land next to the river or a river so you don't care. If you did, it would piss you off that people think they can just go anywhere. BS is you thinking you can come on my club just because you can float there. If anyone ever floated onto your property while you were killing ducks and waved at you like "what's up", it would piss you off to no end. People who are for being able to hunt LAND, just because it floods, obviously don't have any LAND that floods or it would piss you off. End of story.

I have land that floods and I see both sides very vividly. I am not going to say that one side is right or one is wrong. Like I said it is a complicated issue. But I do enjoy seeing others point of view. I feel that this topic will effect alot of people and most people don't know that.

[crow]

Those of you who think it is legal to hunt flooded property out of the natural river bank, just go on and do it. You are breaking the law and you can be ticketed. I don't have any property near a river in MS, so I don't really have a dog in this fight.

But if you happened to be right...In 1973, you could have hunted from Vicksburg to Greenwood and from Greenville to Belzoni and never have been tresspassing. Guys, come on, think about that logically. It can'be so. Just because water from a river covers it from time to time does not make it your ground to hunt over. Once upon a time, it was approached that you could hunt as long as you didn't touch the ground under the water. That changed years ago to the normal high water bank as the yardstick. It doesn't even have to be visibly posted anymore. If you are hunting over someone elses property, you'd better have written permission.

Argue the other way all you want...but, you'll still be wrong!

[chadrideduck]

Exactly. It effects almost everyone who duck hunts. That's what we do. We hunt flooded land. Some people just think they can hunt other people's flooded land just because it naturally floods. Just like CROW said, you can do whatever you want, but if you hunt flooded land that is someone elses, you are trespassing. Plain and simple. Because that's what it is, someone elses FLOODED LAND.

[Deltamud77]

I am being repetitive I am sure in this post, but you have to draw the line somewhere. This argument encompasses logical and philosophical lines on both sides. It seems to me the judge drew a line in the most logical place to draw a line under the circumstances, within the boundaries or banks of the river. It seems to me a good rule would also encompass the typical banks of feeder rivers, streams and oxbows to the Mississippi river. To be allowed to float 1/2 mile or a mile inland off the river over otherwise private property simply because the water is high circumvents the very property laws in which our great country was founded IMO. As a society, we have made a policy decision to protect the rights of the property owner, to do otherwise in any circumstance, starts a slippery slope. Therefore, you have to have a brightline rule that does not always make sense in every circumstance, but at least you know what the law is.

[LODI QUACKER]

chadrideduck,


The MS river cannot be contained and what I am talking about is the High water mark. What is the high water mark? Hell on the MS I would think that is from Levee to Levee!

[torch]

High water mark at ark city is 34. If the river gets to 38 and I can slip into a huinting club because of high water them I am tresspassing.

[chadrideduck]

Torch,

Good enough for me. At least your honest.

[mudsucker]

That is what I was gonna saty Torchy! What ever flood stage is ought to be the benchmark for natural high water mark. I think it is 47' ft. or so at Vicksburg so any thing flooded above that ought to be a no-go zone. The Corp maintains gauges all along the river so you can go to their website(V'burg/Mempho/Nawlins) and pick out the one closest to where you want to hunt and go by that flood stage. Example: V'burg is 47'. Do not hunt down in the Lake Mary area and say well I can go way in there as 47' would bring the river about 1/2 mile past the lake area! You would ure a gage for down there.

[Skeeter]

what is the natural water mark at vicksburg? I need to know if im gonna need "my uncle is a game warden get me out of a ticket pass" this year....



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[waterbug]

Anyone going to hunt the LA opener on the river?

[Grommet]

Yes.