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Postby marshman » Thu Aug 24, 2006 4:39 pm

Side Note: MTV had a show on last night called Two-a-Days that follows Hoover High School, who at the time was the #2 ranked high school team in the nation. It appears to me that South Panola would run through them like crap through a goose.[/quote]

I highly doubt that.
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Postby Greenhead22 » Thu Aug 24, 2006 4:41 pm

Deltamud77 wrote:I will grant you that on the average player by player basis, the public schools are fairly superior, but there are some great athletes in the academy setting that don't get the respect they deserve because they play academy ball.

Different sport, but valid athletic comparison, this spring look at the 100 and 200 meter times in both public and private schools. Suprisingly, at most random meets across the state there is not too much of a difference in times. Most 100 winners in both public and private schools of comparable size have kids running around 11.0 or 11.2 in the 100. State meets are different.

You can't simply say that white boys can't hang. Look at Louisiana High School ball to spoil that argument.


There's only three options for a kid to being to play Div I ball out of academy. He's either gotta be 6'5" 300, kicker/punter or throw 90mph heat.
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Postby drake slayer » Thu Aug 24, 2006 4:46 pm

well about academy ball chaz ramzey was at ja last year and would have gone either way to auburn , jarrod foster another academy player who is starting at madison central and russ brabec who will be starting at madison central was at ja last year, so maybe not humphreys academy but there are some good academys with good players.
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Postby drake slayer » Thu Aug 24, 2006 4:48 pm

ahh yes Reid Neely, David Traxler, and Cory Mcgee also played at Ja and two play at olemiss and one plays at ball st.
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Postby SWAG » Thu Aug 24, 2006 5:14 pm

Would have to say numbers is the difference in public and private schools. A much larger pool of players and abilities to choose from. Have seen PLENTY of hard hits in private school ball, good rivalries seem to help that and there has been some good ones in academy ball. Charleston will be good because the defense is good, control the ball and hope you get a touchdown or two. Do not know the coach personally, but he has got to be doing something right, wasn't that long ago Strider Academy (1A school) would have handed them their ***. I am sure all of the weight room championships has helped Charleston not only from a strength standpoint but also keeping alot of kids busy with something constructive to do. Seems to be a great attitude among the players at Charleston and the area has seemed to get behind them. No reason they should have lost to Grenada last season, they gave it away with mental errors during execution and stupid penalties. The thought of playing a 5A school was on their minds and they just gave in to it. Did not see the Hazlehurst game, but from the way it sounded on the radio, Charleston was not going to run the football or win by doing so. Lots of the better atheletes swing towards switching to public school in the 9th and 10th grades once they realize they have talent and may have a chance to play at another level, especially football players. Baseball and basketball is a little different but not by much.
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Postby Greenhead22 » Thu Aug 24, 2006 5:55 pm

Strider would never hand us our booty, wouldn't have mattered what year or what sport. The white boys that couldn't play at Charleston went to Strider. Their baseball boys talked smack, but when it came time to setup a secret game, they wanted no part of us. Strider had no reason to talk smack, losing to my buddies at Cruger-Tchula. :lol:

One thing about Charleston, we've always been a football school, much as I hate to say it. The football program gets all the money and the rest is given chicken feed. My junior year we had Shannon beat when Romero and Co. were the badazz, but two blown cost us that game and probably the state title. You can ask Romero to this day, which team hit him the hardest in high school, and his answer will be Charleston. And that goes for many other former players that went up against Charleston.

As for Liles, he knows his powerlifting. I'll give him that. However, when it comes to football and big games/crunch time, he folds like a greenhead in my dekes. :lol: He lost the state title in powerlifting over a bs decision. The kid needed to lift 315 to win the title, and Liles got it mixed up and he tried 350, and didn't lift it. He botched that when he didn't make sure of the weight. As seen when the state powerlifting championship came around this past year, his players quit on him before the lift. He had the same group back, lifting more than ever, and they said to heck with him. The players can't stand him, but there's nothing else to do in Charleston except play football. He was supposed to be going to Clinton or Calhoun City, but it didn't work out.


As for the playcalling, he finally got a coach that knew how to mix it up and was getting results. Then halfway into the season, Liles took over the playcalling and it was back to normal, trap left, trap right, power middle. OC got fed up and left, and he's now the OC for one of the best high schools in the Shreveport area.
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Postby ducksak » Thu Aug 24, 2006 8:09 pm

My dad graduated from charleston and I graduated from Winona High in 02 so I got to play against charleston many times. Charleston consistently year in and year out has some of the fastest guys I have ever seen. I cant say I thought they were the hardest hitting team we played against (although I was 6' 1" 290) but they had raw talent. I dont think they had the coaching but they had the players.

That comment about strider handing CHS their arss about made me fall out of the chair laughing. Dont even try to explain that one. Maybe in a arss handing competition. Academy ball has a few athelets spread out at different schools but they do not see the same competition as public ball. Academy ball is SLOWER period.
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Postby SWAG » Fri Aug 25, 2006 5:43 am

Yall guys must be young, because there was definitely a time when Charleston was as awful as any high school football team around. No doubt baseball was another story, some really good baseball players at Charleston. Would like to hear of the boys who could not play that left to go to Strider? Throughout the seventies and eighties, I would argue that Charelston would have had a tough time winning, and would have certainly gotten beat handily in some years.
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Postby SWAG » Fri Aug 25, 2006 5:46 am

What year did you play at CHarleston GH22?
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Postby ducksak » Fri Aug 25, 2006 9:11 am

My dad graduated from charleston and if I remember correctly they lost one game one year and went undefeated one year. I dont think you can call that a sorry team.
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Postby Greenhead22 » Fri Aug 25, 2006 9:23 am

I graduated from CHS in '98. Our baseball program has always stunk it up because I can't tell you of one actual baseball coach that's been there. Well, I can think of one but he left 2 weeks before the season during my senior year to work for Farm Bureau. CHS baseball hasn't been to the playoffs since the mid-80's.

Alot of schools didn't want to play at Charleston back in the day because we had some thugs, ain't gonna lie. CHS and West Tally were about the worst when it came to fights and stuff in the late 80's, early 90's. Many a game I went to when I heard a gun go off.


As for some strider guys, I won't name names because I'm still friends with them, don't want it out that I was picking at them about leaving charleston so they could start at strider.
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Postby skillethead » Fri Aug 25, 2006 10:43 am

Ill be at the Clarksdale-South Panola game tonight! Should be some spit flyin between the sidelines!!!! Soo fired up, my favorite time of year- football, the start of hunting season, and cool air.
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Postby SWAG » Fri Aug 25, 2006 10:55 am

I was speaking of 70's and 80's teams when comparing the two. No comparison over the last ten years, Charleston has had much more success.
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Postby SWAG » Fri Aug 25, 2006 10:58 am

Mississippi ranked as number one state for high school football by USA Today. Texas, whom is usually number one or two, is ranked sixth this year. Noted teams in the article are Oxford, Clarksdale, South Panola.
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Postby bigwater » Fri Aug 25, 2006 11:36 am

per capita nowhere produces more div 1 football players or pro football players than the magnolia state...

that is a fact and not just some b.s....
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