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Hargrave / NCAA Clearinghouse / Powe

Postby Po Monkey Lounger » Tue Aug 01, 2006 9:45 am

All of the Hargrave grads have been held up by the NCAA Clearinghouse pending the results of the following:

"NCAA Clears Hargrave in Initial-Eligibility Certification for Student-Athletes
The National College Athletic Association (NCAA) has determined that Hargrave Military Academy has passed its requirement for initial-eligibility certification of the Academy’s core courses and graduation requirements.


Hargrave Exceeds SACS Accreditation Goals
The Southern Association of Colleges and Schools (SACS) recently performed a mid-term review of Hargrave's accreditation"


Now, with the Hargrave accreditation review completed, with Hargrave exceeding the standards, all of the Hargrave grads who are eligible should be cleared soon by the NCAA Clearinghouse.

This will affect J. Powe, a UM signee, as well as many others across the country, including the highly touted RB signed by LSU this year.

It is my understanding that Powe has all his grades and needed test scores. He is just waiting on clearance from the NCAA Clearinghouse, like the rest of the Hargrave grads. Powe will be a Rebel this fall ---maybe :lol: .
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Postby RebelYelp » Tue Aug 01, 2006 12:55 pm

the initial certification was pertaining to the school as a whole, mainly caused by another prep school (who i believe has an alum at the ag state in Ms) whose approval was yanked by the accredation service because they were for all practical purposes a diploma mill.....
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Postby bigwater » Tue Aug 01, 2006 1:38 pm

well one things for sure.. um is gonna get all their players this year.. how fortunate..

now onto the other important schit ....

such as... there should be no excuses for not winning six games.. especailly considering the murder's row of the following:

memphis, kentuck, wake forest, vandy, northwestern state, and msu..

hell with any kinda coaching you'll win those 6...
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Postby Po Monkey Lounger » Tue Aug 01, 2006 2:35 pm

"there should be no excuses for not winning six games.. especailly considering the murder's row of the following:

memphis, kentuck, wake forest, vandy, northwestern state, and msu..

hell with any kinda coaching you'll win those 6..."

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Exactly. Add in a win over Missouri and an upset win or two over some other SEC foes, and my prediction of UM's finish in the SEC West and overall record of approx. 7-5 to 9-3 is not quite as improbable as many might think. Of course, this is the same type of logic that has blinded me the last two seasons. But, I won't let that stop me from remaining cautiously optimistic, with my glass half full, tempered by a touch of skepticism. :wink: :lol:
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Postby Greenhead22 » Tue Aug 01, 2006 2:44 pm

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Postby Po Monkey Lounger » Tue Aug 01, 2006 2:49 pm

My post about Powe is a pre-emptive strike with real facts, prior to what you will likely see in the CL tommorrow re Ole Miss recruits reporting to camp. There will be meladrama and hysterics about Powe not yet being cleared by the Clearinghouse, with insinuations that UM's coaches have been holding back the inevitable bad news re Powe. Just wait. I am psychic. :wink: :lol:

There are only 4 UM recruits about which there remains much doubt concerning their eligibility: one of the Vaughn brothers (not SRV's family :lol: ), Levy, Rory Johnson, and Aubrey McFadden. It appears that Rory is going to make it --- should know for certain by this weekend. While I have heard good reports of McFadden's progress (from McFadden), I will believe it when I see it with respect to his eligibility. He is most likely a December re-signee, if ever. I have no idea about Vaughn and Levy --- will find out when everyone else does. IF Levy and/or Vaughn do not make it, then I would expect them to either "grey shirt" and enter school during the second semester of this year, or go to a prep school like Hargrave.

Update: Add Powe to the doubt category.
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Postby Po Monkey Lounger » Wed Aug 02, 2006 5:02 pm

Latest update: apparently, there is one additional snag in Powe's eligibility (which I first learned of today) --- it appears that in addition to the above referenced accrediting clearance of Hargrave, which affected all Hargrave grads, the NCAA Clearinghouse had some questions re Powe --- these were answered by Powe and UM ---now waiting on response from NCAA.

So anyone who says he has made it for sure, or will for sure not make it, at this point is wrong.

Good grief. I hate following recruiting. :roll: :roll: :lol:

I may take a new approach for next year, and just avoid and refrain from making any comments about recruiting at all until they actually show up at school in the fall. Lord have mercy. :lol:
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Postby GordonGekko » Wed Aug 02, 2006 10:56 pm

So the only thing we can deduce from this is that Hargrave graduates may have a tougher time earning a diploma than Auburn grads at least in some areas of study :wink:
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Postby Seymore » Thu Aug 03, 2006 12:33 am

GordonGekko wrote:So the only thing we can deduce from this is that Hargrave graduates may have a tougher time earning a diploma than Auburn grads at least in some areas of study :wink:


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Postby Po Monkey Lounger » Thu Aug 03, 2006 8:36 am

Actually, Hargrave may have a better track record than Auburn now. Hargrave received a "good to go" from the acrediting body ---- Auburn, on the other hand, is likely to be back on probation with respect to its accrediting. :lol:

And , if Powe does not make it, he will be the first Hargrave grad that I have ever heard of not to be eligible at a D 1 school. :shock:
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Postby GordonGekko » Thu Aug 03, 2006 12:13 pm

Po Monkey Lounger wrote:Hargrave may have a better track record than Auburn
that's what I meant, it may be tougher to get a degree from Hargrave than Auburn...of course being able to express an idea clearly after 11 p.m. is difficult for me at time :wink: ... I can't recall a Hargrave graduate that hasn't passed the NCAA muster, and UGA has had quite a few that came through there....
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Postby Po Monkey Lounger » Tue Aug 08, 2006 7:30 am

To add to the clusterf#@k going on this year with the NCAA clearinghouse, prep schools, etc., I recently learned that the SEC adopted a rule during the middle of this summer that now requires certain high profile recruits, who attend prep school, complete eligibility requirements late in the process, etc. to be cleared by the SEC Commissioner and the School's Administration ---this is in addition to NCAA Clearinghouse approval.

I am pretty certain this process will apply to Powe (UM), Keiland Williams (LSU), and other highly rated recruits who fit the criteria for the new SEC rule.

So, IF Powe makes it past the NCAA Clearinghouse, he will then have to be approved by the UM Adm. and the SEC. This extra level of review is apparently designed to prevent the admission of any athlete into an SEC school who has significant issues with the credibility of their transcripts, etc. And it apparently puts at least some of the responsibility for the eligibility certification/approval back with the school, in the event improprieties are later discovered. I cannot find the full text of the new rule anywhere ---it must be top secret. :shock:

While I understand and appreciate the intent of the new rule, there appears to be more than a possibility for abuse of this rule if other competing schools are allowed to have any say in the matter with the SEC Commissioner.

With the NCAA Clearinghouse backed up with pending reviews of athletes all over the country, this extra process established by the SEC will only serve to even further delay the eligibility of recruits. If the recruits do not make it past this new SEC required review, then they could not be admitted into ANY other SEC school, but they could be admitted into any non-SEC school, since they would have already cleared the NCAA Clearinghouse.

Thus, for example, if this new SEC rule turns out to be the end of Powe's admission to UM, he could immediately go to any other school outside the SEC, be admitted, and be playing football this fall for that school. And IF such happens to Powe, that is exactly what I expect will happen.
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Postby GordonGekko » Tue Aug 08, 2006 1:43 pm

So the SEC now thinks the NCAA standards aren't good enough.... boy, this is what happens when you get a Commissioner (a Yankee from NY) from a second tier (or is it third tier) conference to head up a premier athletic conference.... Sorry guys this is just a move to micro-manage and make Mike Slive the savior of the soul of SEC football...save them from their academic demons.... I wish we could purge our conference of him and his little buddy Adams at UGA...UGA has had success in football in spite of Adams not because of him.... I appreciate wanting to have tougher standards for admissions, but leave that up to the school, not the athletic conference...Micro-managing idiots....

Sorry for the rant...(steps off soapbox)...
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