dogs running deer

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Postby SHAG » Tue Feb 07, 2006 10:41 pm

few miles south of town, if your coming from Houston you turn at the first intersection by the grocery store, we're down there by the M.B. church.
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Postby hillhunter » Wed Feb 08, 2006 10:00 am

I know exactly where that is. My bet is your havin trouble with some of those cal-chick boys...am i right? :wink:
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Postby SHAG » Wed Feb 08, 2006 11:17 am

ding ding ding, give that boy a cigar! we're bordered on the east by cal-chick. We are also being poached on by some the the local church members. At least the road hunters stick to the roads, the others run around our place on their fourwheeler trying to head off the cal-chick dogs.
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Postby Greenhead22 » Wed Feb 08, 2006 10:10 pm

Thomas wrote:
Greenhead22 wrote:I don't know the specifics of deer dogs running on other's property, but I do know this. If you shoot another man's dog on your property, and if it's proven, you are looking at around a $2,000 fine.

A few years ago my uncle went squirrel hunting with another guy on his property. The guy had a squirrel dog worth $10,000. :shock: The dog chased a squirrel up a tree approx 50 yds across the property line. The other landowner sees the dog and starts shooting while his owner and my uncle are in plain sight, hollering at the man the whole time to not shoot.

They went to court, landowner paid the fine plus the $10,000 for the dog.

If the dog has a collar, try to catch him and call his owner and tell them how you feel. If the dog is covered in mange, etc.......I can understand. Tracking collars and chips have cost many a landowner money these days when shooting other people's dogs.


Guess you have never had tresspassers run dog's on you, huh Greenboy? Most that defend the doghunters, don't fight the dogs. We have quite a few wild dogs (lost dogs) that we take down each year, and will continue to do so. Most are very aggressive. I have more than one hunt ruined by dog hunters turning loose dogs on their 40 acres, only to have them chase all over the county.

10 strays bit the dust this year on our lease, and more to come!!

Let me say that all of these were "wild" looking dogs with no collars, and most barked and acted aggresive........BAMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM


Umm....wrong.......all the deer clubs that surround us run dogs, just as we do. We run deer on them, and they run deer on us. I don't like deer dogs to a point, but I don't forget that the first buck I got was ran by dogs. My dad would rather run deer dogs than anything else.
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Re: dogs running deer

Postby JigPole » Thu Feb 09, 2006 2:05 pm

JRC wrote:Anyone know what the law says about dogs collered or otherwise running on an individuals land who does not dog hunt or like it for that matter. It got pretty old explaining to my 7 year old why we would not see any deer after some guys on the ajoining property cast there dogs and would let them run all day and seem to do nothing about catching them even though they were on our property more than they were on theres.



The law says you cant' kill the dogs so don't get caught doing it. Unfortunately this is the only solution that a white trash road hunter can understand.
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Postby Sod Man » Thu Feb 09, 2006 6:38 pm

well don't be like some high class stillhunters and not take the tracking collar off, because now you are the da
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Postby doggystyle » Sat Feb 11, 2006 12:06 am

I've run dogs all my life. It's a way of life to a lot of people in MS. Nobody ever gets held accountable while ambushing deer still hunting over a corn pile. Ask your Grandaddy how he used to hunt. That is the way it should be today. Unless you are not from here, you just will not understand. Just because people bring their big city money into Gods country and call themselves deerhunting don't give them any say so on how things have always been done.
Dogs are a way of life, they go all the way back to ancient times. I never have tried to run over anyone hunting (or any other way, for that matter). My way of life (running dogs) may not exactally match others, but don't fault the dogs for my obsession. Any so-called man who would kill a dog for what he or she is trained to do their best at, is not a man in my book. A man who would run over a fellow hunters way of life is not a man either.
As far as resorting to name calling, I really don't see any need for that. Not all people who run dogs are unlawfull people. Many of them spend their hard earned money in investing in something that is enjoyed by thousands of fellow hunters. Take into consideration this fact before you act in haste.
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It seems that if you could focus your shooting skills toward deer instead of dogs, you could have a lot more meat in your freezer.
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Postby SoftCall » Sat Feb 11, 2006 9:45 am

Just because people bring their big city money into Gods country and call themselves deerhunting don't give them any say so on how things have always been done.


$#!+.

This isn't a money issue. My family roots are from Leake County. We have owned property there for over 80 years. We prefer to still hunt and have been doing it for 30 PLUS years. It's a way of life - NO CORN INVOLVED. How can you locate a nice buck and hunt him over scrapes if someone's dogs keep disturbing your woods? People turn their dogs out off of a public road to run deer of of my land onto their adjacent lease. I don't give a rats ass if that's the way things have been done for years. I live in the city. My family owns the land and no matter where the money comes from that pays the property tax on the land - it's ours and WE determine who accesses it. It's not some local's right to grant themself "permission by way of life".

THIS IS EXACTLY THE MENTALITY THAT GIVES DOG HUNTERS A BAD NAME.

I respect their right to hunt with dogs as it is a legal method. They need to respect MY rights as a land owner and there are no problems.

"BEWARE OF TRAPS" - Worked for me. Are they really there? Find out for yourself.

BTW - DEER dog shooters are the lowest life form in the universe.
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Postby bigoak » Sat Feb 11, 2006 2:04 pm

Think about it from the non dog hunters point of view. You spend your time and hard earned money on your land working on roads, deer stands, food plots etc... so you can deer hunt. You work all week 8 to 5 wishing you were in the woods. Then Saturday gets here and you are excited to finally get to go hunting. You get on your stand and here comes the dogs from the neighboring land ruining your hunt. That makes me mad. If someone chooses to shoot the dogs in order to deliver a message then I have no problem with that. I personally could not shoot a dog.

The dog hunters like to use the excuse that the dogs are not at fault because they are just doing what they were born to do. That excuse does not hold water. A dog can be trained. The dog hunters do not spend enough time training their dogs to return when called. The rabbit hunters never have this problem because they spend all year training their dogs to come back when called. I wish there was a law that held the dog owner accountable if their dogs were caught on someone elses land. Just my opinion.
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Postby JRC » Sun Feb 12, 2006 8:17 pm

a-men to the last post. Its not about what the dog does. Its about what the dog owner does not do and thats control his dogs. A dog in a city causes problems with the neighbors its the dog owner who is cited by the municipality because its the owners responsibility to control there animals.
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Postby Sod Man » Sun Feb 12, 2006 8:29 pm

you find a dog that has been trained to run deer and can stop and read signs, and i will buy that dog. However, i do agree that we dog hunters should try to be respectful to stillhunters, but shouldn't go both ways also
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Postby digger » Sun Feb 12, 2006 9:15 pm

What the hell has respect got to do with dog's and people being in places they know they ought not be.If you could collect wouldnt it be cool to send'en half your land tax and maintanice bill and see how they like that,naw that would'nt work cause then they think they had a lease.
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Re: dogs running deer

Postby JigPole » Mon Feb 13, 2006 10:36 am

JRC wrote:Anyone know what the law says about dogs collered or otherwise running on an individuals land who does not dog hunt or like it for that matter. It got pretty old explaining to my 7 year old why we would not see any deer after some guys on the ajoining property cast there dogs and would let them run all day and seem to do nothing about catching them even though they were on our property more than they were on theres.



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I have no problem with what you do with your dogs on land you have a right to be on. The problem arises when people purposely release their dogs onto property they don't have permission to be on or the dogs go across the property line because they "can't read a posted sign" as most road hunters like to say. Well, duh!

As for killing the dogs, like I said it is the only solution for the roadhunters that I have encountered trespassing on my property.
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Postby CamoUp » Mon Feb 13, 2006 4:11 pm

bigoak wrote:Think about it from the non dog hunters point of view. You spend your time and hard earned money on your land working on roads, deer stands, food plots etc... so you can deer hunt. You work all week 8 to 5 wishing you were in the woods. Then Saturday gets here and you are excited to finally get to go hunting. You get on your stand and here comes the dogs from the neighboring land ruining your hunt. That makes me mad. If someone chooses to shoot the dogs in order to deliver a message then I have no problem with that. I personally could not shoot a dog.

The dog hunters like to use the excuse that the dogs are not at fault because they are just doing what they were born to do. That excuse does not hold water. A dog can be trained. The dog hunters do not spend enough time training their dogs to return when called. The rabbit hunters never have this problem because they spend all year training their dogs to come back when called. I wish there was a law that held the dog owner accountable if their dogs were caught on someone elses land. Just my opinion.



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Postby Jelly » Mon Feb 13, 2006 4:26 pm

It's not dog vs no-dog. It's outlaw vs non-outlaw. Why would I give a crap if you run dogs that I can't even hear.


It kills me when someone says. "My dog can't read". Well no crap! It's not the dog's responsibility to stay off others land, it's the dog owners. If you can't keep them on your land, DON'T RUN THEM. Right is right and wrong is wrong. JMHO.... :roll:
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