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Postby JRC » Mon Feb 06, 2006 9:31 pm

Anyone know what the law says about dogs collered or otherwise running on an individuals land who does not dog hunt or like it for that matter. It got pretty old explaining to my 7 year old why we would not see any deer after some guys on the ajoining property cast there dogs and would let them run all day and seem to do nothing about catching them even though they were on our property more than they were on theres.
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Postby Nitro Mag » Mon Feb 06, 2006 9:36 pm

Don't know what the laws are but we had the same problem on our place in Yazoo Co. We even had some let out on our place to run back across our land to our neighbors. Didn't seem to matter whether it was dog season, primitive weapon or whatever.
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Postby digger » Mon Feb 06, 2006 10:05 pm

We also have that problem not a whole lot you can do but if you can catch the dog's hold'em on your property and wait til they come looking forthe dog's then have them charged with tresspassing and or put the word out that you have placed leg hold trap's around your property dog hunter's hate trap's.
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Postby SHAG » Mon Feb 06, 2006 10:22 pm

Had the same problem on our place in Vardaman this year.
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Postby JRC » Mon Feb 06, 2006 10:53 pm

It seems that the problem is not unique to my area based on the replys I have gotten in the short time it has been posted. I look it as a form of trespassing, granted the dog does not about property lines, but the owner does and it seems they should be held accountable for their dogs. I got a friend in Florida that says they have a law that after repeated incidents of dogs getting in unwanted areas the owners are cited for some form of trespassing. I think we should have something like that to protect the rights of the land owner and give him some sort of legal recourse for those who have no respect for his private land. I also have done some research into how a dog is to be vaccinated for rabies and one that is not can have this happen to them. This is a quote from state statute 41-53-11
It shall be lawful and it shall be the duty for any sheriff, conversation officer or peace officer of a county or municipalityto kill any dog above the age of three months found running at large on whose neck there is no collar or tag certifying that the dog has been vaccinated. I've looked at a lot of deer dogs and don't think I have ever saw one with a rabies tag. Also I have never heard of any law enforcemant officer enforcing this when hunting dogs were concerned. I think a little enforcement of this would slow the dog folks down some particularly the "rogue dog hunter" that has no respect for others properties.
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Postby Unkljohn » Tue Feb 07, 2006 8:11 am

Collars and tags, you gotta be kiddin me. Around here they just spray paint a number on the dogs side. I've got 800 acres that I rarely hunt after bow season because it's like watchin a NASCAR race as dog after dog comes by your stand. They have all the land surrounding me leased, so there really isn't much I can do. Can't stand the thought of shooting a dog for doing what he's been taught to do.
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Postby Greenhead22 » Tue Feb 07, 2006 8:19 am

I don't know the specifics of deer dogs running on other's property, but I do know this. If you shoot another man's dog on your property, and if it's proven, you are looking at around a $2,000 fine.

A few years ago my uncle went squirrel hunting with another guy on his property. The guy had a squirrel dog worth $10,000. :shock: The dog chased a squirrel up a tree approx 50 yds across the property line. The other landowner sees the dog and starts shooting while his owner and my uncle are in plain sight, hollering at the man the whole time to not shoot.

They went to court, landowner paid the fine plus the $10,000 for the dog.

If the dog has a collar, try to catch him and call his owner and tell them how you feel. If the dog is covered in mange, etc.......I can understand. Tracking collars and chips have cost many a landowner money these days when shooting other people's dogs.
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Postby bigoak » Tue Feb 07, 2006 8:28 am

If the adjoining land is leased land then take it up with the landowner. I have seen timber companies ban dog hunting on their leased land after adjoining landowners threatened a lawsuit.
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Postby Sod Man » Tue Feb 07, 2006 8:40 am

i hunt in a camp where we hunt with dogs and we had one killed this year. I know everyone hates dog hunters, but if you have a good bit of land this kind of thing never really happens that much.
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Postby hillhunter » Tue Feb 07, 2006 8:55 am

just start patrolling it regularly, let them know your there all the time and keep the wardens out there regularly. For some reason dog hunters hate game wardens :roll: :roll: . Also if you catch them on your land prosecute to the fullest, this is the only way to get them to stop trespassing.

Sod man I agree with you 100%. There are some good clubs out there who try and do things right, I have friends in them and hunt with them a couple of times a year, but it seems this is not the standard for dog hunting anymore.

SHAG if your in Vardaman your gonna just about have to deal with dogs, if your anywhere north of Hwy 8, especially up 341.
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Postby Sod Man » Tue Feb 07, 2006 10:20 am

i know and that is what gives dog hunting such a bad name, but it is the same with still hunting some do right and some don't
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Postby SHAG » Tue Feb 07, 2006 6:12 pm

Hey hillhunter that's the same conclusion I have come to. I met one of the locals who was a nice guy and not the type to intentionally run dogs across our place. but he said there were those,some of which were in the same club as him, that would let em out on our place intentianally and didn't care how we felt about it (he didn't have any more love loss for them than we did)for the record I'm not against dog hunters and wouldn't be ticked off if dogs came across our place on occasion. It's the dog/road poachers than run em 24/7. One of our members caught some of them red handed cleaning two road shot does on our land, when he confronted them he was told he should leave while he still could. I was also inofrmed that these guys run there dogs whereever they please year round.
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Postby Sod Man » Tue Feb 07, 2006 8:54 pm

that is the kind of hunter that needs to be hunting up around parchman with big bubba
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Postby digger » Tue Feb 07, 2006 9:56 pm

Hey shag where you hunt in Vardaman that's where I'm from and may know what group your having trouble with.
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Postby Thomas » Tue Feb 07, 2006 10:02 pm

Greenhead22 wrote:I don't know the specifics of deer dogs running on other's property, but I do know this. If you shoot another man's dog on your property, and if it's proven, you are looking at around a $2,000 fine.

A few years ago my uncle went squirrel hunting with another guy on his property. The guy had a squirrel dog worth $10,000. :shock: The dog chased a squirrel up a tree approx 50 yds across the property line. The other landowner sees the dog and starts shooting while his owner and my uncle are in plain sight, hollering at the man the whole time to not shoot.

They went to court, landowner paid the fine plus the $10,000 for the dog.

If the dog has a collar, try to catch him and call his owner and tell them how you feel. If the dog is covered in mange, etc.......I can understand. Tracking collars and chips have cost many a landowner money these days when shooting other people's dogs.


Guess you have never had tresspassers run dog's on you, huh Greenboy? Most that defend the doghunters, don't fight the dogs. We have quite a few wild dogs (lost dogs) that we take down each year, and will continue to do so. Most are very aggressive. I have more than one hunt ruined by dog hunters turning loose dogs on their 40 acres, only to have them chase all over the county.

10 strays bit the dust this year on our lease, and more to come!!

Let me say that all of these were "wild" looking dogs with no collars, and most barked and acted aggresive........BAMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

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