DU Loses It's Mind???

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Postby sportsman450 » Tue Dec 13, 2005 5:42 pm

Dutch Dog wrote:I'd like to see what he has to say about that?!!! :shock: :wink:

yep, these yahoos have wantd "facts"for a while now -- well, somebody with the time and knowhow finally got em!!!

and while H2OK9's statement about the board was incorrect, further investigation shows that several board members ARE paid DU employees!!!
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Postby Seem too Xtrema2 you? » Tue Dec 13, 2005 5:57 pm

I am not sure on the full details or names or anything like that....but my dad went to Bristol Bay Lodge in Alaska for a 10 day flyfishing trip with 2 of his friends several years ago, and the other group that was there included several previous board members of DU (at the national level, I am not familiar exactly with the titles)....but anyways, they found out he was from MS and sat and had cocktails with him and explained that, although it was never their intentions, they (DU) had (and they admitted) "screwed duck hunting up for the people who pay the most money to DU.." i.e. the southern flyway states....Dad told me that all these guys just got caught up in securing wetlands here and there up north....crunching numbers, and got business minded...and then later realized that their efforts werent benefiting proportionately the people that supply the most funding....my Dad said the guys were very nice and polite and that, to say the least, of lot of what they had to tell him was "very interesting"....bottom line is, although its not malicious intent, a lot of these folks will admit that what they have done in the past has made hunting is MS/LA/ARK not near what it used to be...."numbers" may be at all time highs, but thats not what the people who were pumping most of the money in care about....they, like everyone else, put in chips to get something that will benefit them....everyone keeps talking about "lets do this for the ducks" which is true....but what needs to be kept in mind is....as hunters, what we mean when we say that is "lets do whats best for us to get the ducks down here so we can see em, shoot em, film em, eat em....whatever you like"....I mean if it were really just "all about the ducks" and not about the "hunting and killing of ducks" this would be a PETA discussion board...

one would thing that with all the money and interest out there, we could get delta duck hunting back to the "glory days" that youngsters like me only get to here about from you older hunters....but maybe that's another part of them problem...so many hunters....

It probably all comes down to the three principles that have been governing the world since the beginning of time: Money, Power, and P...sy
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Postby the doctor » Tue Dec 13, 2005 6:49 pm

It probably all comes down to the three principles that have been governing the world since the beginning of time: Money, Power, and P...sy

you said it all man

luv the tax returns 450...keep it simple,and the numbers dont add up

I say we bring em down!

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Postby bodeen » Tue Dec 13, 2005 8:00 pm

Like the old saying goes. Women rule the world. They have half the $$$$ and all the P...y. DU is much the same way. It has all the $$$$ and obviously all the say in how the $$$ is spent. That is why North Ms is such an uproar now.

I live in Tallahatchie County. One of the best duck spots anywhere. Jim Kennedy also owns land and hunts here. What the F@#k do Jim Kennedy and I have in common other than we both breath air. He is in charge or at least used to be in charge of the America Wetlands Trust. Which I think, and I may be mistaken, controls where alot of the money is spent. Do you think Jim Kennedy gives a crap about where I think the $$$ is spent? He is a billionaire I am a thousandaire. He dont give a sh$t about me much less how many ducks I shoot.

This is what DU has become. We are all pawns. I had no idea the top brass made that kind of $$$. I am working for free and they are making 300K.. That is utterly ridiculous.
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Postby Cotten » Tue Dec 13, 2005 8:19 pm

Non-profit means the actual entity, not the big wheel executives. It’s very profitable for them.

Remember the Red Cross debacle after 911. They decided enough of the money donated by hard working Americans earmarked specifically for the 911 victim’s families had been given and they would use the additional funds earmarked for the 911 victim’s families as they saw fit in other areas. How arrogant can you get? And last I heard the top dog at the Red Cross was earning about 300k per year; playing on the hearts of folks living on a whole lot less.

The fewer hands your money touches prior to reaching its ultimate goal the better. I’m with Ramsey. Let’s buy more duck stamps (and hope they don’t screw it up).
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Postby sportsman450 » Tue Dec 13, 2005 8:20 pm

bodeen wrote:This is what DU has become. We are all pawns. I had no idea the top brass made that kind of $$$. I am working for free and they are making 300K.. That is utterly ridiculous.

And that's just the national figures. You should see what the management staff at the Ridgeland office makes.
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Postby Cotten » Tue Dec 13, 2005 8:32 pm

sportsman450 wrote:
bodeen wrote:This is what DU has become. We are all pawns. I had no idea the top brass made that kind of $$$. I am working for free and they are making 300K.. That is utterly ridiculous.

And that's just the national figures. You should see what the management staff at the Ridgeland office makes.



How much?
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Postby SoftCall » Tue Dec 13, 2005 8:51 pm

did anyone kill any ducks today?
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Postby the doctor » Tue Dec 13, 2005 8:55 pm

not sure what you are implying, but people killed ducks before DU

maybe you were just trying to lighten the mood

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Postby Dutch Dog » Tue Dec 13, 2005 8:58 pm

SoftCall wrote:did anyone kill any ducks today?

No, can't say as I did...but I will before the week is out.
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Postby Cotten » Tue Dec 13, 2005 9:50 pm

SoftCall wrote:did anyone kill any ducks today?


Not today but hoping to Thursday morning.
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Postby SoftCall » Tue Dec 13, 2005 10:36 pm

maybe you were just trying to lighten the mood


yep.....I hope everyone wears them out.
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Postby bodeen » Wed Dec 14, 2005 7:31 am

Gone hit em hard this weekend. Cant wait.
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Postby ScottW » Wed Dec 14, 2005 9:46 am

Here is the official spin put out by DU. Just the facts, you decide.



Dear DU Volunteer:

As you may be aware, DU recently made some adjustments to our Fundraising staffing levels in Mississippi . Since this type of change often creates confusion and disinformation, we wanted to provide you with an accurate set of details.

DU's mission statement is clear. DU conserves, restores, and manages wetlands and associated habitats for North America 's waterfowl. This is established by our Board of Directors (all unpaid volunteers who spend thousands a dollars a year of their own money to perform this vital function) and is the driving force behind everything we do.

All of our staff comes to DU with a love for the mission. But we often comment that we stay because of the people we meet and the relationships we build. DU staff sees our fellow staff as family, and we care for each other accordingly.

Unfortunately, there are times when in order to achieve the expectations of our mission, changes in the DU family occur. The recent changes in Mississippi are such an occasion.

Grassroots fundraising in Mississippi has declined significantly in recent years. There are many reasons for this, but we can assure you that we are addressing every one within our power. (Continued hunter success during this duck season should help, too.) Mississippi hasn't been the only state facing these challenges, nor is it the only state to see changes in staff.

The decision to reduce our staff is never an easy one. We care for our staff, and we recognize that the nature of their work leads them to develop deep relationships with our volunteers and members. However, as stated earlier, our mission to benefit waterfowl, and to do so with the efficiency that our members and volunteers take pride in, requires us to manage our expenses in relationship to our income. It is a constant challenge to maintain a balance between the size of our grassroots organization and our staff in every area of the country.

Simply stated, when a particular part of the country experiences dramatic reductions in income, we have a choice. Become less efficient and accomplish less in our conservation mission or to reduce our expenses and seek to maximize our benefit to the resource. To be true to the expectations of our members and volunteers, we must keep the resource foremost in our mind.

When we face these decisions, we must evaluate a variety of factors, many of which are not obvious to a volunteer working on the local level. Deciding which staff to keep and which to release is neither simple nor easy. We do our best to make the best choice for the ducks.

When we face these tough decisions, we never forget that our staff is family. In this case, it was determined that we would continue forward in Mississippi with RD Billie Ray Fann. As a result, RD John Peeples was presented the opportunity to transfer to other open positions within DU at the same salary. For personal reasons John choose not to accept that opportunity.

We accept John's decision and have provided him with a generous separation package to help him make a successful transition. John has indicated that he ?still loves DU.? We wish he and his family only the best and look forward to John continuing to be a part of the DU family.

Moving forward, we have to provide the best support to our volunteers in Mississippi . Obviously, this will be more of a challenge with fewer staff. In order to do this, Mississippi will be one of the first states to take part in a new program we are testing to provide additional points of service and support to our volunteers. While the role an RD plays can never be replaced, our volunteers have many needs that are difficult for our RDs to meet due to their travel schedules. Beginning in January, Mississippi volunteers will have access to a new rapid response Volunteer Support System in Memphis . We'll be sharing more details on this program in the near future. It is our hope that this new program will assist Mississippi and the other four states participating to improve the level of support to our local volunteers.

In closing, we want to thank you for your support and involvement with DU as a volunteer. Our staff and volunteers working together are what make us great.

You share our passion for waterfowl. You know there is no equal or greater opportunity to make a significant impact on the resource than DU. Each and every DU staff and volunteer shares your passion and is ready to continue working with you to ensure that we continue to have wetlands sufficient to fill the skies with waterfowl, today, tomorrow and forever.

Sincerely,

Jack Moss Ronal F. Roberson Jim Young
Senior Vice President Regional Vice President Group Manager
Southern Mississippi Region 6 Grassroots Fundraising & Volunteer Relations




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Postby torch » Wed Dec 14, 2005 9:56 am

I wonder if the decline in Mississippi has anything to do with the FARM BILL FIASCO. :shock:

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