The Price for Duck Land

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The Price for Duck Land

Postby TMoore » Tue Apr 16, 2002 8:04 pm

Since there has been some interesting discussion on the forum and the classifieds in regards to the price of duck land (thanks to Don Miller Hole Hunter) what is a fair price for duck land in the Delta ? I know it depends on timber or field, ability to pump, acres, etc., but what would YOU be willing to pay for a good (consistent) duck hole or tract of land ?


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Postby Lacuna » Tue Apr 16, 2002 8:21 pm

You can buy it for less for $1,200/acre is about the going rate for that kind of stuff these days.

If you are serious about buying some land then you should start looking right now and have more than one picked out, because when the limit goes to three you wont be able to give away a duck hole.

You can buy marginal bean land for $900.00 an acre sometimes but around 1200 is what you should probably expect.
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The Price for Duck Land

Postby Wingman » Tue Apr 16, 2002 8:55 pm

Hehe, if the limit goes to three, and everybody can't give away their duck holes...that'll be the time to strike. Get it when you can.

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The Price for Duck Land

Postby Insider » Tue Apr 16, 2002 10:14 pm

I know you were asking about the purchase price of land, but I'm curious about what lease are going for per acre. Sometimes a per acre price isn't fair to the duck hole, because not all duck holes are created equal. I'm just curious to know what are the going lease prices as well as purchase prices?
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Postby Lacuna » Tue Apr 16, 2002 10:25 pm

Ah now there's the million dollar question.

I have seen pristine duck holes where you couldnt buy a duck because the last human inhabitants were me-me-me people. [img]images/smiles/icon_wink.gif[/img]

They all look the same in the off season - GOOD.

The real key is to see it when nobody else has ducks. That will tell you what it's management policies have been like, and will dictate how many ducks are there, and thus how much the lease is worth.

You cant put a dollar value on that because you think it's worth x amount based on what you can afford. There is no regulated bar for this.

You make 650k a year and I make 65k.

To me it's worth $3,500, to you it's worth 30k.

What is a lease worth?

The answer is it depends on who is leasing it. You try to set a bar for that and the first man with more money than you comes along and fixes your notion of fairness about lease prices. In fact they do this all the time to people, and have done it to me as well.

If you want your lease to be practiacal in price, then the best advice in the world is dont talk about it, dont take people hunting with way more money than you can spend, and try to lock it up for at least 5 years when you commit.

Duck leases come and go just as fast as another man with more money walks up and you can take that to the bank, because the farmers sure do.
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Postby Duck Nawteek » Wed Apr 17, 2002 8:28 am

I agree with Lacuna. If you want to lease for a practical price don't take a soul but your close hunting buddy with you and don't talk about it to no one. Now some of these farmers are trying to get rich during duck season for some of their leases. They charge 4 to 5 thousand dollars for ONE BLIND and may have 8 to 10 blinds out in a flooded rice field and you can only hunt that one blind. What if the ducks never fly over that blind and the other blind at the end of the field is covered up with birds you cant go down there because someone else has paid the same amount as you. Then your out of 4 or 5 thousand dollars. I don't care that if you make a million dollars a year and u think its worth it. That is just throwing money away and making it hard for someone who doesnt have it. That's not to say that I could'nt afford a duck lease like that because I can. TO answer Insider's question for what is the going rate for duck leases in the delta? I'm not speaking for everyone in the delta because this may be wrong just what I've been told and have checked the past. I've checked on about 15 different leases and the average per lease is 3500 dollars and to me that is way to high. J/M/O/O. [img]images/smiles/icon_eek.gif[/img] [img]images/smiles/icon_eek.gif[/img]
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Postby Po Monkey Lounger » Mon Apr 22, 2002 10:34 pm

Heck, it ain't nothin for me to spend an obscene amount of money on a crappy duck hole(so crappy even the super duper roboduck and all the other superfriends--Mojo Duck,Sky Scraper, Lucky Duck, Fatal Deduct, Wonder Duck, Daffy Duck---all deployed simultaneouly could not save it) -- done it before and probably will do it again, all in the never ending search for the "holy grail" of duck hunting ---that perfect little hole (duck hole that is) that consistently produces day after day, regardless of weather and duck migration. It all starts in the "offseason" (is there really such a thing?), with the same promise of an MSU spring training loaded with overated Jucos and preseason predictions of Pasadena, and then folds like a limp smilie after a misguided waste of a gunpowder.

But, what the heck. What else is a good ole MS boy gonna spend all that hard earned cash on? Golf(sissy sport), sailing, yachting? Don't think so.
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Postby Lacuna » Tue Apr 23, 2002 7:41 am

that perfect little hole (duck hole that is) that consistently produces day after day, regardless of weather and duck migration.

Well thats about as real as the holy grail and you will see it just as quick too.

Aint no such a place, ducks aint stupid ya know. Harvest management is the key. The only way around it is for the perfect hole to be so big you hear an echo when you talk into it.
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Postby Po Monkey Lounger » Thu Apr 25, 2002 5:03 pm

Actually, the "holy grail" does exist --- I have seen it from a distance and heard it marveled about from members, guests, and the general hunting public. It is called "Fighting Bayou" and it is located in Booger Den, MS. But, even if they had memberships available for purchase (they don't), I could not afford it unless I win the lottery. In the meantime, my "holy grail" is a poor man's Fighting Bayou. I shall search the ends of the earth (or at least the MS Delta) until I find it, spending ridiculous amounts of money in the process. Why? Because I know it is there, just waiting to be discovered ----there is hope every year. Without hope, there would be no hope.
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Postby pushpole » Thu Apr 25, 2002 5:26 pm

If you wnat to see what waterfowl leases average, you can try MS outfitters.com. They have some intersting information from the range to even lease agreements. The prices I was ranged from 5 to 50 bucks per acre depending on how it was or is managed. Then of course you will need to include the cost of liability insurance on the property as well.

My peroanl thoughts--ok here i go an open my big mouth, but if the property has a history of holding ducks (like has it been hunted in the past-how many ducks were killed etc), I would consider it more valuable than say property that has no history, but if it does have a history--why is it up for lease.

I remember reading an article in DU where some guys leased some property that looked great, they planted it rolled the crop under and sat there all season and watched the ducks fly right over it.

Remember, you have to be where the ducks want to be. Just my thoughts. We are looking for lease property also--- sooooo good luck.
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The Price for Duck Land

Postby TMoore » Thu Apr 25, 2002 7:07 pm

Just when I think I have found the "holy grail", I usually end up thinking "holy
s*#%, I'm not leasing this again !


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