saw-tooth oaks...

[judge jb]

i spent the last two days setting out 100 saw- tooth oaks.. this rain should help settle the dirt around the seedlings.. i suppose Feb. would have been the ideal time but i was unable to locate any then.. found these from a fellow in Fulton.. call him one day and have your trees the day after... his name is Pat Turner and they cost 50 cents apiece... wish me a good survival rate...

they say a mexican can set out 500 pines a day... next time i will hire one to do the work....haha....

judge jb

[BigGun]

they sure can. It's amazing too. Three of them walking and talking can get them straight as an arrow.

[MSDuckmen]

Judge I set out Oaks during the winter and I raise my own. If you would like I can start a planter for you as well and you can set them out next winter. I raise mine from the nuts and have at least a 90% survival rate.

Water Oak is my favorite with Pin oak a close second. I have also found a few others I will be trying this year.

Here are a couple of pictures of the oaks I grow and some nuts I will be trying this year
I plant on private and public land, I try to palnt at least 500 a year and this will insure a good crop of hard woods for the youth. I see many of our forest being replaced with pines and it just makes me sick.


This next picture has the water and white oak acorns reversed, water aok acorns are much smaller



[ March 30, 2002: Message edited by: Duckmen ]

[judge jb]

Great post Duckmen,,,,, in the past few years i have become more active in the planting of hardwoods for the next generation to enjoy.... yea-yea i don't have the big picture to look at as some of the younger ones do, but i have harvested alot of timber and now i want to replace as much as possible....{ i once cut short pulp-wood for a living }
i manage a large tree farm in my area and get great pleasure in watching them come alive again... i like to learn as i go and seeing timber being planted as i go gives me satisfaction in knowing that i do my part... i will be in a seminar next week for small farm foresty put on by the Ms. Forestry Service.. i will be in touch with you concerning your seedlings... looks like you have done your home-work....

i planted some 200 plus acorns earlier and am waiting there results...haha.. i don't know what to expect.... good luck to you and wish me well.....

judge jb

[judge jb]

let me rephraise myself, i over-see a large amount of hunting property that we are trying to establish a good tree population with wildlife habitat... yes we have had alot of seedlings planted and i enjoy each tree i set out....

judge jb

i ain't a tree manager.....haha....

[gwall]

what do yall know about willow oaks - are they a fast grower? just planted about 20 on a lake lot- what are the fastest growing oak trees?

[Dutch Dog]

In looking at those acorns. this is what i see. top left are actually Swamp chestnut white oak acorns. The one labeled Pin oak is actually a "regular" white oak. the one labeled white oak is as you said a water oak. the one on the bottom left looks like it may be a cherry bark red oak or possibly a scarlet oak both of which are indeed red oaks. and i don't know squat about live oaks as they tend to be mostly in texas.

[shiloh]

I'm not going to question Duckmen, but i would have guessed the water and white oaks to be mixed up. I've always thought that the little acorns that so many people call pin oaks were water oaks, and I was almost certain that the oblong acorns were white oaks. Check that duckmen, and tell me if I am wrong.

[MSDuckmen]

Well I do know that the small ones are water oaks that's for sure. I have a book that told me the others and I may be wrong and it would not be the first time but I think what I first stated is correct. Going by the bark. leaf, and size of nut is all I have to go by.

[peewee]

Duckmen tell me where you collected those acorns. Some oak species are not as easily found in the delta and vice-versa for the hills.
Your water oak acorns look like a nutall to me. Water oak and nutalls have very similar bark. The pin oak looks similar to a white oak. The only place I have encountered pin oaks in MS was near tunica and they resembeled a nuttal. I believe you got the live oak correct and the red oak I believe is a cherrybark (red oak family). Willow oaks also have very small acorns. If I remember correctly it was the ducks favorite acorn b/c of its size.

Anyway Duckmen you have done a hell of a job. If most sportsmen in this state put the time or effort you have into conserving wildlife habitat we would be alot better off. Keep it up.