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Postby tunica » Wed Feb 23, 2005 12:40 pm

kaustin wrote:This has always puzzled me. Why is planting not baiting? You plant something for the sole purpose of the wildlife and then hunt over it. It's done with almost all hunting, including waterfowl. Millet is planted as food for ducks, never attempted to be harvested, and then hunted over. It all is baiting to some degree so why prosecute the lazy guy who just skips the planting and throughs out food. I know what the law is and yes I follow it and plant food plots and hunt over them. My problem is with the law itself. It all just seems hypocritical. O.K. I'm off my soapbox, sorry for the interuption.


If you feel that way I got to ask why are you doing...Please don't say cause its legal if you don;t agree with it then dont but saying it something you dont think should be done and you do it is hypocritical to Me...

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Postby DuCkCoMaNdEr » Wed Feb 23, 2005 1:04 pm

not that i have to bait turkeys to kill turkeys, but when you have land owners around you that you can hear an automatic feeder goin off every mornin and every afternoon, its hard to kill em. And we have called the gw on em before. They have ben caught twice! The turkeys roost everywhere around his feeders, they fly down and eat and never thin of crossin that creek comin to my place. I will make sure there is no corn after the legal date on my place, but i still have try something to get em there!
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Postby bigwater » Wed Feb 23, 2005 1:10 pm

you know what.. why not bait'em with corn...

i mean hell they gonna let the damn deer hunters do whatever the hell the want to so why not let the turkey hunters????


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Postby kaustin » Wed Feb 23, 2005 1:18 pm

Tunica, I'm not sure exactly what your question is. Read your post. I don't understand it.
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Postby peewee » Wed Feb 23, 2005 2:13 pm

When you come out of school and go to work with a biologist and the first summer you are there you get to see a bunch of dead turkeys due to afflatoxins from corn you might be able to figure out why I dont like corn to be thrown in the woods.

But there is too many redneck biologist in the state of MS to convince that stuff like this ever happens b/c the only time the spend in the woods is during hunting season unles they are just out ridding a 4 wheeler or something. Somehow or another this much activity in the woods (along with them recieving a couple of hunting magazines) leads them to believe they are certified wildlife biologist.
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Postby SoftCall » Wed Feb 23, 2005 2:23 pm

I am a certified armchair biologist and I say that feeding anything in a manner that concentrates game in a small area around a feeder increases the chances of disease - including turkeys.
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Postby redwine » Wed Feb 23, 2005 2:24 pm

It takes knowledge, skill and a lot of effort to plant and raise a corn crop to leave for wildlife; however anyone can go buy a sack of corn and pour it on the ground. A planted corn field is a natural habitat. Corn just magically appearing on the ground in the middle of the woods is not very natural.
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Postby RIP EM » Wed Feb 23, 2005 2:47 pm

UH-HUHHHH !!!

Commander is "SHORT-STOPPIN" the Turkeys !

You-sonofabeyochyou !

SHAME,SHAME !

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Postby kaustin » Wed Feb 23, 2005 3:01 pm

Tunica, I think I got what you were asking. I did not say I thought it was right or wrong with hunting over bait or a food plot. I don't understand the difference. Both are for the sole purpose of attracting wildlife. I have just never understood what the difference is.
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Postby RIP EM » Wed Feb 23, 2005 4:53 pm

The diff. that matters is,... ONE IS LEGAL, THE UDDERN AIN'T !

I'm with you,....would love to hear the "powers that be" splain this one !

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Postby BAY KINGFISHER » Wed Feb 23, 2005 6:52 pm

Well Ill put in my two cents, why not bait before the season especially since the guys around you are already doing it , and its legal, aint got nothing to do with being a good hunter, just about seeing birds, its bad when you gotta listen to the turkeys gobblin on the neighbors place and you know why!!!!
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Postby WINGER1 » Wed Feb 23, 2005 9:12 pm

Actually, if you think about it the one who puts out corn is doing more work than one who plants a small to medium sized food plot for the sole purpose of hunting over it!!! They both congregate wildlife but once the foodplot is planted that person just has to sit back in his trusty shooting house and wait but the corn hunter has to always tote corn to his feeders weekly to ensure wildlife use these areas!! Those 50lb bags get HEAVYYYYYYYY!!!!! HA
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Postby WINGER1 » Wed Feb 23, 2005 9:19 pm

And for the record, planted corn, soybeans, mossy oak biologic, or ryegrass isn't "natural" in the middle of a power-line right of way! Yes it may require more work but not more thought!
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Postby HARLEY » Wed Feb 23, 2005 9:50 pm

I got to say that dumping out piles of corn to concentrate animals (deer & turkey) just for shooting them is wrong, BUT a foodplot has two good arguments. On the one hand it concentrates game just like the corn piles, just maybe not as well. However, it does provide a season long opportunity for all game to benefit from nutrition that it otherwise may not have gotten.
I gotta think that a food plot offers as much return to the wildlife as it does to the hunter in terms off healthier offspring and better quality in the mature animals. If a man follows the rules and stops at his limit then the rest of the animals got a healthy habitat left to help them recover.

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Postby BAY KINGFISHER » Wed Feb 23, 2005 10:11 pm

Im not saying abandon your game plots, Im saying do what it takes to keep birds on your property within the legal limits, I have found just keeping the plots clipped will keep the turkeys in there late in the spring, providing some good bugging ground, also burns are quite effective, like I always say be a steward of the land, but I be damm if the neighbors are going to steal the birds prior to the season, cant do nothing about it once the season starts but you got to fight fire with fire pre-season anyhow..
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