I need some gromoxone

[Greenwoodfarmboy]

If you want to be slick you would mix your gramoxone with some round up for some good residual effects, but only do that if your looking for a nondiscrimanitory solution to your weed problem, my ol'man just had some flown in on some of our fields this week to get the year started on a weedless note.

GFB.

[Wingman]

Mixing gramoxone with roundup is like chopping a weed with a hoe then burning the leaves.

The gramoxone kills the leaf cells before the roundup has time to translocate to the root where it works there.

Gramoxone is a quick fix, but short-lived, the plant will usually come back out of it when it puts on new shoots. Roundup goes to the root but takes longer to get results.

What kind of residual do you get, GFB? I didn't know about that.

[Soybean Man]

Neither Gramoxone(paraquat) or Roundup(glyphosate) have any residual effect. But these two are not recommended as a tank mix. The reason is that paraquat desicates the plant and destroys cell integrity before the glyphosate can be translocated. Both have there weaknesses in a burndown, but have other tank mix partners that will give close to full control. If I was set on Gramoxone, I would not put anything with it. You will not get your moneys worth out of the other product. As someone else stated, plants can come back from paraquat, because it is contact only with no translocation like glyphosate. Both are likely to drift, but have a good rainfast period and work better in warmer conditions.

[Wingman]

But the thing about gramoxone (paraquat) drift is that it usually only speckles the plant it drifts onto (looks bad but doesn't do much damage).

Roundup drift, however, is deadly. There have been cases of Roundup (glyphosate) drifting a mile or more and killing crops.

You get roundup on one leaf and it kills the plant. You get gramoxone on one leaf and it kills that leaf. Coverage is vital when spraying gramoxone.

Put Roundup and 2,4-D together for a good, spring burndown.

You will get some residual with 2.4-D. I found that out the first time last year with my sunflowers. But for your yard, it works great for clover, onions, dock, etc. before your trees and plants start budding.

[hillhunter]

2,4-D has some residual. That would be my first option on the lawn. I have also seen people spray roundup on their bermuda grass early in the season. Right now it would not hurt it because the grass will not take it up, however, spray it in july and you won't have to mow anymore.

[eastwoods]

Why don't we start a habitat forum, there's to much other stuff on here for me to keep up with.

It's time for thinking about planting and messin' with beavers.