help our duck hunting in the south?

[qckmstr]

i've got a question i would like to put out in the open and see whet kind of response it recieves. for years ducks unlimited has been " the leader in wetlands conservation" correct??? well.. the few questions i have is what has ducks unlimited done for duck hunting here in the state of mississippi. in my opinion they have done a great job improving the duck hunting way up north but their slowly destroying the hunting the farther south you go. the second question is how much of each dollar D.U. recieves goes to help waterfowl. i have a friend that works for ducks unlimited. to clear his name, he's there for the money not because he supports the organization. he never would say what percent goes to the ducks. all he ever told me was it would hurt your feelings. third question.... why do people buy all the D.U. stuff... tags, hats, stickers????? is it just the cool thing to do, or are those people in support of destroying the hunting in the south??

[dukbum]

this outta be a good one sumbody seen my horse?

[peewee]

You got that right dukbum.

[DESOTO DUCK]

Does this topic come up every other week or what?

[bigwater]

yes i agree dux unlim.. has ruined duck hunting.. i have joined a new organiz.. called Roost Shooters Unlimited.. we in the killin biz...

[dukbum]

dont forget you are VP of coots unlimited too now! dont forget where your roots are....there wif the coots

[bigwater]

don't worry bum i can multi task... the coots are in good shape for there return back north.... theres nuf water now that if'n they start headin back in the next 2 weeks or so they should be able to swim the whole damn way back!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[lab-dog 4]

oh boy here we go, where ya at chad manlove

[lab-dog 4]

hey bum, i found that horse and he's dead

[Chad Manlove]

Do I really need to?

Is there anybody out there that can answer these questions besides me?

[BigCountry]

OK GUYS

i am weighing in on this one.

most of you know my position on DU. if you dont i will tell you again. THEY SUX.

now as far as ruining duck hunting i dont think it is DU's fault completely.

yes DU has made the sport more popular and that has generated mega bucks for them and people involed in the sporting goods industry. this has lead to more liberal bag limits and longer seasons to acomidate the growing number of hunters. that is the problem

if we are harvesting 3 times the ducks we use to then it stands to reason that we need 3 times the birds to make up the difference. if du wanted to make a difference they would report the truth about duck numbers and would lobby law makers to rudece the season and limits. this would reduce the number of hunters and would allow the ducks more numbers for breeding and that would create more baby ducks. what a concept.

now i know that du is protecting breeding grounds and so forth. but in its attempt to raise more money they have actually damaged the sport that has generated a lot of money for them.

one thing that did surprise me though is that only 51% of du donations come from hunters. i dont know if that takes into acount the massive amount of money hunters spend on apperal and such but i though more of the donations would come from hunters. maybe not.

[dukbum]

chad...i found my damn horse....."@#$%#" done been beat to hell and back



little dehydrated too

[Spoonallard]

Do I really need to?

Is there anybody out there that can answer these questions besides me?

What about Billie Ray?

So here we go again, but with a little different spin. What is DU trying to do to help ducks in the south. I do support DU, but I also agree there is a problem. Could it be that there like an old politition. They seem to have forgotton why they started and are just there to play the game and make the bucks. It kind of reminds me of the NRA. They all just seem to have gotton to big for there britches. There seems to be one answer to me. Just as we need to start holding our own state government accountable for there actions (culled cow plant ring a bell), its time to demand that if we are paying this money to help them help wildlife, we should know exactly what the hell they are up to, and I don't mean a dog and pony show. They don't have to give me all of these freebies to keep me happy. If I want to show I support them, I don't have a problem paying for my own hat, and I don't need a Charlton Heston silver bullit key chain either. For Billie Ray and the other DU men out there, I still belive in the cause and I will most likly always support DU, but you must agree it is time they started listening to the people who make them who they are.
Thanks for the soap box,
Dux

P.S. Paw I'm out of BBs!

[Wildfowler]

i've got a question i would like to put out in the open and see whet kind of response it recieves. for years ducks unlimited has been " the leader in wetlands conservation" correct??? well.. the few questions i have is what has ducks unlimited done for duck hunting here in the state of mississippi. in my opinion they have done a great job improving the duck hunting way up north but their slowly destroying the hunting the farther south you go. the second question is how much of each dollar D.U. recieves goes to help waterfowl. i have a friend that works for ducks unlimited. to clear his name, he's there for the money not because he supports the organization. he never would say what percent goes to the ducks. all he ever told me was it would hurt your feelings. third question.... why do people buy all the D.U. stuff... tags, hats, stickers????? is it just the cool thing to do, or are those people in support of destroying the hunting in the south??

Alright, I'll try to give a sensible response based on my very limited knowledge of what I think is going on. I'll admit up front that I could be wrong about it too. I've really just made all this up just now for the first time, so there's a good chance that I am missing some facts somewhere. Perhaps this map will show you at least what DU have been doing here in the state. I don't know this for a fact, but I'm sure that the majority of these spots indicated on this map are private lands, not open to hunting by you and I.

http://www.ducks.org/community/states/2 ... ssippi.pdf

If I were a landowner in one of these spots, I too would be looking somewhere for help getting the dirt moved, pipes, etc in place to be able to fix up the land so I could try and hunt on it. DU is not the only organization out there responsible for creating all these "new" water holes that you guys are complaining about. Delta Wildlife has put a lot of pipes in the ground too. Why not start blaming the farmers who are trying to make an extra 20K per year by renting out their land to people who are willing to pay. It's economics.

Flip it around. Say you're an absent delta farmland owner. The farmer who's been renting out the farming rights from you could care less about duck hunting and will not help you install pipes and do dirt work to fix up your property correctly so you can come shoot ducks up there on the weekends. If you want the property fixed up for your needs, you can either try to do the work yourself, and risk screwing up the terrain, or you can hire someone to do the work professionally.

All DU is doing is responding to the request for assistance that private landowners and state agencies are making of them. If you owned a business where you were contracted to do this kind of work, you would be doing the same thing DU is doing. You would be responding to the needs of these landowner by providing them with the service they were calling on you for. If no one were to request this type of work in our state, DU would probably whither away in our state. Trying to convince the joe blow walk-in public duck hunter to quit throwing away his $35 each year for his DU magazine isn't going to do anything to stop DU's presence in this state. The real money is in the dirt work.

So you see, the fault is not with DU. The fault, if you can really admit this is a fault, is with the private landowners. You could always start leasing up these same fields and have the landowners not flood them artificially if you think it's diminishing the quality of your hunting on nearby public lands. Or else you could go get a lease up in Quitman or Tallahatchie county or where ever the heck people claim to be killing ducks these days and join them. All DU is doing in this state is their job. If that means they have helped landowners create more places in this state for the ducks to use, then I'd say they're doing their job well.

So maybe the next time someone new comes to this forum and asks for advise as how to go about fixing up his property for duck hunting. Maybe all you whiners might not ought to be so quick to give him sound advice. All he's going to do is to provide one more spot to further scatter out the ducks across this great state. His place could even be right next to yours. Come to think about it, some of the most vocal whiners on this forum are the same ones who are so quick to give good advise in this matter.

Any comments?

[tunica du4u]

Thought I had explained this before but I will again.
1-13-05
Just got back from a top secret DU meeting where it was all explained. DU is not feeding the ducks up north and no they don't have a net stretched from the Rockies to the Applachians to prevent them from coming south. DU has a top secret program, where they have hired Russians ex-cosmenauts to come to Canada and are training the ducks not to fly south past northern Illinois, much like circus animals are trained. A few stubborn ducks are "untrainable", escape and these are the ones we are seeing in Mississippi now. Most of which are smiley's, which these scientist/cosmenauts have discovered are smarter than mallard and have twice the brain size, according to Dr. Jethro Bodine, head double naught agent in charge of this project. Peta is not involved and no agriculutrial subsidy money is being used. This program has been secretly funded with Social Security benefit money for several years now thru a special bill sponsored by Bennie Thompson. Several of the Bush cabinet members were and/or being replaced for not supporting the idea of this program. Starting salary for the Russian was $200 per day plus expenses, thus making this a very effecient program, thus keeping the committment that 5 cents of each dollar goes to the ducks and the remaining 95 cents goes to Billie Ray Fann's secret slush fund to provide liquor and limo's for the duck sluts.
Each scientist is responsible for training 20 ducks in a month.

Don't ya just luv these 1st post topics from some guys.