What do y'all think of Trump?

[420 racin]

I took your little quiz Country First Conservative is what it said I was.
I guess that is strong borders, strong military, enough immigration already, social safety nets make it a generational problem of being on social programs for a lifetime, Strict Environmental laws hamstring business and development, Blacks are their own problem and not whitey, etc..

[YoBenny]

What did the tea party do?

Well obviously they were doing something that was against the rules of non profits to the IRS dude.
I have no idea what it was, and I don't care, but the idea that somebody weaponized the IRS and
attacked them when they weren't violating anything is just plain old tin foil hat bullchit.

I've done 100 of those things

I've done a lot of them too. I always fall short of a moderate position because most moderates are religious regardless of political bias and believe in god and make some of their cultural decisions and sometimes environmental and business decisions based on rules in the Goat Herders Guide To The Galaxy.
I make mine based on Empirical science so on some issues my conclusions are different.

I hate black people and tacos

Yeah 420 I kinda had you figured out early on but that mentality is to be expected based on geographical sensibilities if nothing else so its pretty normal.

[davidees]

“I make mine based on Empirical science, except when it comes to abortion, so on some issues my conclusions are different”

FIFY

[Wildfowler]

What did the tea party do?

Well obviously they were doing something that was against the rules of non profits to the IRS dude.
I have no idea what it was, and I don't care, but the idea that somebody weaponized the IRS and
attacked them when they weren't violating anything is just plain old tin foil hat bullchit.
.

Is freedom of speech now a violation?

OK let me get this straight.

You make a statement that has no basis for being truthful at all and when called out on it you accuse me of being a tinfoil hat wearing conspiracy theorist.

Please get back to me when you’re ready to have an adult discussion regarding whether not McCain is a hero or a traitor based on the evidence I laid out for you.

[420 racin]

Never said I hate blacks and tacos..I'm actually fond of tacos, just when they are LEGAL tacos, this illegal immigration has to stop period. Either it is illegal, you know against the law, or we have no laws.
As far as the hate blacks, I don't Hate anyone, that is a strong word, I do not respect and have no regard for anyone, no matter their color that is a no good person, the black community has far more advantages than any other community to make it in life, Affirmative action, advanced placement in school admissions, free tuition, job placement based on diversity not qualifications, etc.. The same bus that I got on as a kid at 530 went by the same black folks house that I see sitting by the road everyday today, the only difference was they never got on it. Now I have a job, house, family, etc.. and they sit in their chairs by the burn barrel on the side of the road trying to bum a ride to the store and waiting on their check to come in, and that aint my fault.

[YoBenny]

OK I'll bite, show me where empirical science demonstrates that abortion is bad for human beings as a whole, because that's what I focus on first. As a whole.
Now if there were about 113 of us, the climate had changed drastically and we were struggling our butts off just to get through a season, yeah, abortion not a good thing, at all. Need all you can get even if they make it harder to live wit what ya got.
On the flip of the coin if you have too many people and cannot feed them all and meet basics then abortion should be mandatory as it was in China for some time until things level back out again.
It's a sliding scale and I dont really give too hoots about the moral obligation in it because that is just an inefficient way of doing it in the absence of science.
Humans just aint that special, never were, that's why there are so many veterans on street corners these days, because everybody knows it they just dont like to have to admit it.

Wildflower I have no idea what you are talking about. I just said John McCain is not a communist and did not weaponize the IRS to attack the GOP and not the Dems.
You say different, whatever.

[davidees]

OK I'll bite, show me where empirical science demonstrates that abortion is bad for human beings as a whole, because that's what I focus on first. As a whole.
Now if there were about 113 of us, the climate had changed drastically and we were struggling our butts off just to get through a season, yeah, abortion not a good thing, at all. Need all you can get even if they make it harder to live wit what ya got.
On the flip of the coin if you have too many people and cannot feed them all and meet basics then abortion should be mandatory as it was in China for some time until things level back out again.
It's a sliding scale and I dont really give too hoots about the moral obligation in it because that is just an inefficient way of doing it in the absence of science.
Humans just aint that special, never were, that's why there are so many veterans on street corners these days, because everybody knows it they just dont like to have to admit it.

Wildflower I have no idea what you are talking about. I just said John McCain is not a communist and did not weaponize the IRS to attack the GOP and not the Dems.
You say different, whatever.

I already told you what modern science has revealed about abortion and the humanity of unborn children. Sober up a bit and then we’ll talk, K?

[YoBenny]

Never said I hate blacks and tacos..

I know man jest funnin ya a minute, I agree with you, illegal immigration has to stop. Where I go left with that is two fold, but it doesn't change the fact that illegal immigration must stop. The key is how to go about making that happen, and it aint no 30 billion dollar wall.

I also agree that hate is a strong word and once I realized that I try to steer clear of it in my personal thoughts about not only people but most everything except some bugs and buttholes who go to wal mart with the flu and get everyone else sick.

I grew up in Greenville just above you, I saw desegregation go down up close and personal.
I agree with you that there are severe problems in the black community that are generated by their own behavior.
However it is simply not that simple, in fact it is extremely complex, in fact, if some scientist could figure out how to solve the problems of the black community in the Delta I think they should get a fkin noble peace prize for it.
In fact I think we should ask Bill Gates and some other filthy rich bleeding hearts to cough up a billion dollar reward for whoever in the sociology world can come up with a solution for this problem.

Everybody thinks they know the answer, stop giving them checks and make them go back to work.
It just isn't that simple, and we should have never allowed this to happen in the first place, but as I said these problems stretch across the ethnic spectrum of the region and it will take a multi ethnic attempt to correct them.

I already told you what modern science has revealed about abortion and the humanity of unborn children.

Sorry I missed that, or maybe I didn't, if you mean they feel pain then so fkin what I could care less.
That's the reality of it. Life is hard, it hurts, a lot, then you die. Oh fkin well.....

[Wildfowler]

Wildflower I have no idea what you are talking about. I just said John McCain is not a communist and did not weaponize the IRS to attack the GOP and not the Dems.
You say different, whatever.

You’re wrong and I even provided supporting documentation. John McCain instructed the IRS to target the tea party. This is newly released info.

Where were you when the Lois Lerner IRS hearings were going on?

Here’s another link. I can’t believe you’re not outraged that the US government could seek to damage a certain class of people based only their political views.

https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2018 ... ns-destro/

And were seeing the same thing play out right now in real time regarding the fact that the FBI went out of their way to exonerate Hillary Clinton when she is clearly guilty of crimes and at the same time going 100% scorched earth to try and find any blemish they can on trump.

[420 racin]

Ok I'll bite..,with regard to the abortion, let me first say morally i'm against it, however the Gov should not make laws based on morality like that. However, my problem with the law allowing abortion is this. In at least 38 states, if you kill a pregnant woman you are charged with double homicide or killing two persons, regardless the stage of development, The law regards that unborn baby or fetus or whatever you want to call it, as a person, yet they take the stance that if it is the mother that consents to an abortion it is no longer considered a person....it's just a double standard, either it is or is not considered a person, who kills it should not matter in the eyes of the law. The law must apply evenly across the board, that goes with everything not just this, Immigration, abortion, use of private email servers, laundering money with the Russians, etc... I don't really care which "side" does what if it is illegal and against the law then it was illegal and against the law..period.

[Wildfowler]

Now Trump has issued a statement that says he “meant” to say he saw no reason why it would “not” be Russia.

Pisses me off when he screws up stupid chit like this.

Edit: And for the record I don’t believe him 12 hours later correcting his statement.

[YoBenny]

if you kill a pregnant woman you are charged with double homicide or killing two persons

Yes. well this is a case in which two laws that are screwed up and dont work together should be harmonized by the so called politicians that caint git a damn thing done anymore for calling each other colors.

I think the same solution applies to both problems. There should be a time limit on abortions, after a certain time it is too late and you cannot abort. If you shoot someone who have been pregnant longer than that time then charge them with double homicide. If the infant is still in fetus stage then charge for one. All that insanity started because the morally assinine want to make it human from the moment the two cells come together and protect it from there. ALl of this has already been addressed fairly well with planned parenthood but the GOP tore it to pieces because of the "sanctity of life" gang who just can't get over an innocent fetus gettin flushed.

It all comes from the first failed notion that is instilled in kids from an early age because their religious parents do it to them on purpose. You are special you were made in God's image.
Refer to the Goat Herders Guide To The Galaxy for further study on the matter.

[davidees]

Ok I'll bite..,with regard to the abortion, let me first say morally i'm against it, however the Gov should not make laws based on morality like that. However, my problem with the law allowing abortion is this. In at least 38 states, if you kill a pregnant woman you are charged with double homicide or killing two persons, regardless the stage of development, The law regards that unborn baby or fetus or whatever you want to call it, as a person, yet they take the stance that if it is the mother that consents to an abortion it is no longer considered a person....it's just a double standard, either it is or is not considered a person, who kills it should not matter in the eyes of the law. The law must apply evenly across the board, that goes with everything not just this, Immigration, abortion, use of private email servers, laundering money with the Russians, etc... I don't really care which "side" does what if it is illegal and against the law then it was illegal and against the law..period.

Roe v Wade just took that determination from the states, which in theory, under the 10th Amendment, it’s a state issue anyway. If Roe were overturned, it would simply send the issue back to the states. My only issue with that is, under our Declaration of Independence, the foremost of inalienable rights is the right to LIFE, in other words, the very right to exist...currently we’re allowing that most fundamental inalienable right to be stripped from about a million people a year. A lot of good points in your post though, and I agree with you.

[davidees]

if you kill a pregnant woman you are charged with double homicide or killing two persons

Yes. well this is a case in which two laws that are screwed up and dont work together should be harmonized by the so called politicians that caint git a damn thing done anymore for calling each other colors.

I think the same solution applies to both problems. There should be a time limit on abortions, after a certain time it is too late and you cannot abort. If you shoot someone who have been pregnant longer than that time then charge them with double homicide. If the infant is still in fetus stage then charge for one. All that insanity started because the morally assinine want to make it human from the moment the two cells come together and protect it from there. ALl of this has already been addressed fairly well with planned parenthood but the GOP tore it to pieces because of the "sanctity of life" gang who just can't get over an innocent fetus gettin flushed.

It all comes from the first failed notion that is instilled in kids from an early age because their religious parents do it to them on purpose. You are special you were made in God's image.
Refer to the Goat Herders Guide To The Galaxy for further study on the matter.

Actually they “tore it apart” because IT IS ILLEGAL TO USE TAXPAYER MONEY TO FUND ABORTIONS!

[420 racin]

Actually they “tore it apart” because IT IS ILLEGAL TO USE TAXPAYER MONEY TO FUND ABORTIONS![/quote]

Again, i am not for abortions, but if someone wants to have one, that is between them and God at the end, but like you point out, I should not be expected to pay for it. And if you don't believe in God then that's your choice and i don't ridicule you for it or make jokes and call you names etc... I accept that is your position and move on, something others seem unable to do when the tables are turned.