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Water / Fields / Dry

Postby stitch » Tue Nov 01, 2016 8:56 pm

Not sure the best way to phrase this, but what are everyone's thoughts / plans / etc regarding flooding fields? Extremely dry........take a lot of diesel to run pumps to flood fields.....not much rain in sight... warm weather.....what you gonna do?
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Re: Water / Fields / Dry

Postby Wingman » Tue Nov 01, 2016 11:09 pm

Flood moist soil. Invertebrates will explode.
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Postby NyssaAquatica » Wed Nov 02, 2016 3:42 am

stitch wrote:Not sure the best way to phrase this, but what are everyone's thoughts / plans / etc regarding flooding fields? Extremely dry........take a lot of diesel to run pumps to flood fields.....not much rain in sight... warm weather.....what you gonna do?

Pray for rain. Probably will go from hunting public land 50% of to the time to 100% until late December.
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Re: Water / Fields / Dry

Postby davidees » Wed Nov 02, 2016 6:38 am

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Postby hntrpat1 » Wed Nov 02, 2016 6:55 am

Wingman wrote:Flood moist soil. Invertebrates will explode.
This I don't understand why people flood a dirt field. What a waste of money. Pay the farmer to leave stubble and kill ducks all season.
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Postby deltadukman » Wed Nov 02, 2016 7:49 am

Ducks, Deer? Its 80 degrees in October/November. I'm headed south until further notice because the specks and reds are on FIRE!
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Re: Water / Fields / Dry

Postby eSJay » Wed Nov 02, 2016 11:15 am

hntrpat1 wrote:
Wingman wrote:Flood moist soil. Invertebrates will explode.
This I don't understand why people flood a dirt field. What a waste of money. Pay the farmer to leave stubble and kill ducks all season.
What is the going rate for that with your farmer?
The reason I ask is that we battle this every year & from my experience, if it's dry enough after harvest, our farmer is going to disk & row leaving us rowed up dirt to flood. Just wondering what a fair price for him not to do this would be. I'm thinking we couldn't touch it but would like to hear from someone that knows what they are talking about on the subject.
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Re: Water / Fields / Dry

Postby ScottBrown » Wed Nov 02, 2016 12:01 pm

I have never hunted fields but have a friend that has a couple fields to hunt this year, so I am trying to learn. My question is what does stubble leave for ducks that is more attractive than a dirt field?

Esjay I don't know the cost to leave stubble but for the farmer to leave his beans this year it was $600 an acre.
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Re: Water / Fields / Dry

Postby missed mallards » Wed Nov 02, 2016 12:18 pm

ScottBrown wrote:I have never hunted fields but have a friend that has a couple fields to hunt this year, so I am trying to learn. My question is what does stubble leave for ducks that is more attractive than a dirt field?

Esjay I don't know the cost to leave stubble but for the farmer to leave his beans this year it was $600 an acre.
Stubble will have left over grain. I would assume most combines today are loosing less than 3% running through the throat. That's a bushel maybe 2 of leftover waste grain that allows ducks to forage for. Once you disk it, it gets incorporated back into the soil. In short, stubble leaves food on top and disking does away with it.
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Postby novacaine » Wed Nov 02, 2016 12:22 pm

missed mallards wrote:
ScottBrown wrote:I have never hunted fields but have a friend that has a couple fields to hunt this year, so I am trying to learn. My question is what does stubble leave for ducks that is more attractive than a dirt field?

Esjay I don't know the cost to leave stubble but for the farmer to leave his beans this year it was $600 an acre.
Stubble will have left over grain. I would assume most combines today are loosing less than 3% running through the throat. That's a bushel maybe 2 of leftover waste grain that allows ducks to forage for. Once you disk it, it gets incorporated back into the soil. In short, stubble leaves food on top and disking does away with it.
And the vegetation (when wet) gives a place for buggies to live...........there is some of your food.
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Re: Water / Fields / Dry

Postby dukluk » Wed Nov 02, 2016 2:29 pm

Wingman wrote:Flood moist soil. Invertebrates will explode.

You got that right....turned on a well yesterday in an old fish pond, and millions of crickets exploded out of the cracks.
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Postby sondance » Wed Nov 02, 2016 3:27 pm

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Re: Water / Fields / Dry

Postby JaMak84 » Wed Nov 02, 2016 4:46 pm

eSJay wrote:
hntrpat1 wrote:
Wingman wrote:Flood moist soil. Invertebrates will explode.
This I don't understand why people flood a dirt field. What a waste of money. Pay the farmer to leave stubble and kill ducks all season.
What is the going rate for that with your farmer?
The reason I ask is that we battle this every year & from my experience, if it's dry enough after harvest, our farmer is going to disk & row leaving us rowed up dirt to flood. Just wondering what a fair price for him not to do this would be. I'm thinking we couldn't touch it but would like to hear from someone that knows what they are talking about on the subject.
Thanks!
Maybe hntrpat1's farmer has a goose that lays golden eggs, but 99.9% of the farmers I work with are gonna work their fields if they can and they don't give a rip about how much you're willing to pay them not to. Days matter come springtime, and if all they need is a 10 day window of dry weather to plant they don't wanna waste it prepping. Sure, they'll no till a bean field if the beds are still in good shape, but good luck getting them to leave corn or rice stubble.
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Re: Water / Fields / Dry

Postby Greenhead22 » Thu Nov 03, 2016 6:44 pm

hntrpat1 wrote:
Wingman wrote:Flood moist soil. Invertebrates will explode.
This I don't understand why people flood a dirt field. What a waste of money. Pay the farmer to leave stubble and kill ducks all season.
I've hunted over some dirt fields/mud flats in Ark that killed 1500-2000 birds each that I'd put up against most fields with crops. It's all about location.
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Re: Water / Fields / Dry

Postby davidees » Fri Nov 04, 2016 4:39 am

We just ask our farmer not to disk our fields til spring...of course, he leases the farming rights from the landowner and doesn't actually own the land....that said, I've killed them over dirt, but the stubble is better IMO.

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