AR-10

[landscaper]

Thinking about trying to get in an AR-10 but just don't know enough about them. Do not want to spend $2k but want a decent gun with fair long range accuracy. If you were looking to buy one what would you get? Would you build it? Who makes the best whole gun? Who makes the best components? Would you stick with .308 or consider another caliber? What else do I need to consider?


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[teul2]

I feel sure Wildfowler will chime in. But till then, I think he and Gator both have the DPMS Oracle.
http://www.dpmsinc.com/308-ORACLE_ep_99-1.html

[Wildfowler]

I feel sure Wildfowler will chime in. But till then, I think he and Gator both have the DPMS Oracle.
http://www.dpmsinc.com/308-ORACLE_ep_99-1.html

Hahaha

Yes, if you are wanting to buy a complete rifle and don't plan on immediately making significant change out of parts I would recommend buying a DPMS gen 2. This will be my next purchase. It's significantly lighter than the GEN one version. There are several different versions to choose from depending on what you actually want to do with the rifle. For me it would be the one labeled the hunter. I haven't checked in a while but as far as I know you are limited in making changes to the Gen 2 because no one is making many aftermarket parts for them because the platform is a little different. Midwest industries does make some nice hand guards for the Gen 2. Don't think anyone is currently offering a bolt or barrel for them yet?

If you want to purchase this with the assumption that in the near future you may want to change out its configuration or add higher performance parts then I would purchase a gen one DPMS rifle.

For hunting around here I would stick with 308. If you're wanting to do longer range target shooting or long range hunting consider a 243 or 6.5 Creedmore. Honestly don't know if anyone makes one in 243 but I think they do?

For me, I purchased two stripped DPMS gen one receivers and assembled the rifle myself using specific parts rather than buying a complete rifle. My two rifles are heavy, especially with the optics I am using but I don't mind the weight.

Armalight makes a very nice A.R. 10 rifle but there is less compatibility with aftermarket parts for the Armalight. Barrels, bolts, magazines etc. are available but they are not compatible with the DPMS platform.

Armalight = AR10
DPMS = LR-308
Knights Armament = SR-25 = expensive.

[landscaper]

Thanks. Any opinion on Bushmaster Rifles? My dad has one in .223 that is a tack driver but is a match grade gun. I have had my eye on this one but not sure if I would get a similar level of accuracy with it not being match grade.

http://www.bushmaster.com/firearms/MOE_series.asp

Thoughts?

Getting mixed reviews on Bushmaster and DPMS. Hearing "whatever you don't buy this one." and "this one is the best gun on the market" about both. Is this just a "Ford vs Chevy" thing?

[Prodrive]

I have a Rock River Lar-8 have been very happy with comes with a great trigger you might want to look at one? they take fn/fal mags

[deltadukman]

Not an AR-10 but I just ordered a Rock River Tactical Operator II. Rock River makes pretty good stuff from what I've seen.

[teul2]

FYI, just got an email from Brownells. The DPMS Oracle is on sale fro $749

http://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/re ... racle_Main

[jdbuckshot]

I have a bushmaster ORC AR-10

I have a Nikon M-308 scope on it.


it shoots good. never hangs up.


I can't shoot it sub MOA - but its probably close.


I can hit a 8" steel gong every time at 200 yds.

[DanP]

I thought about an AR-10 for a while, but after shooting and handling a few I realized its just not a practical option for my intended use. Went this route instead http://www.springfield-armory.com/produ ... -socom-16/ and I've been very pleased.

[Blackduck]

I thought about an AR-10 for a while, but after shooting and handling a few I realized its just not a practical option for my intended use. Went this route instead http://www.springfield-armory.com/produ ... -socom-16/ and I've been very pleased.

I had a M1A from Springfield for years. It was a bad bad gun. I don't know about a 16" barrel with muzzle break. Seems like a lot of bang close to my face but I've never shot one so it's purely speculation.

[Wildfowler]

I always thought those were neat looking rifles.

[DanP]

I thought about an AR-10 for a while, but after shooting and handling a few I realized its just not a practical option for my intended use. Went this route instead http://www.springfield-armory.com/produ ... -socom-16/ and I've been very pleased.

I had a M1A from Springfield for years. It was a bad bad gun. I don't know about a 16" barrel with muzzle break. Seems like a lot of bang close to my face but I've never shot one so it's purely speculation.

Only 50 rounds through it so far, 20 of which were with a can, very enjoyable to shoot. Adjustable gas block is a must. The factory muzzle break is well designed, very little jump and quick target acquisition. I wanted a .30 cal rifle with high cap mag for killing pigs and deer 250 yards or less. This rifle carries like a dream, much different than AR-10. Mine is currently set up in scout configuration but I will be purchasing an extended rail and switching to bushnell elite tactical or something similar and possibly forward mount NV in future.

[edub20]

I thought about an AR-10 for a while, but after shooting and handling a few I realized its just not a practical option for my intended use. Went this route instead http://www.springfield-armory.com/produ ... -socom-16/ and I've been very pleased.

I had a M1A from Springfield for years. It was a bad bad gun. I don't know about a 16" barrel with muzzle break. Seems like a lot of bang close to my face but I've never shot one so it's purely speculation.

Only 50 rounds through it so far, 20 of which were with a can, very enjoyable to shoot. Adjustable gas block is a must. The factory muzzle break is well designed, very little jump and quick target acquisition. I wanted a .30 cal rifle with high cap mag for killing pigs and deer 250 yards or less. This rifle carries like a dream, much different than AR-10. Mine is currently set up in scout configuration but I will be purchasing an extended rail and switching to bushnell elite tactical or something similar and possibly forward mount NV in future.

That scope must have some crazy long eye relief.

[gator]

i'd echo everything wildfowler had to say regarding the DPMS. I bought the Gen 1 simply because i came across a gun shop sporting a price i couldn't turn down. I was thinking "meh, i can handle the little bit of extra weight" and I can, BUT the ounces start adding up quickly. in short, it's a heavy gun but like wildfowler, i bought a good sling and really don't think about it.

I changed out the gas block on mine and have had a good bit of trouble getting it lined up and dialed in correctly. mine doesn't hang, but my bolt doesn't catch on the last round 9 times out of ten, either. gonna strip it back down this spring when i have a little more time and put a different block on it which should end that little hang up.

Other than that, i've been a bit surprised at the accuracy of the gun. I put a Vortex Strike Eagle on it and it holds an outstanding group out to 200 yds. haven't pushed it past that simply because where i hunt, i can't see past 75-80 yds anyway.

biggest drawback i've seen thus far is you just can't go out and shoot the thing....rounds go quick and i swear, the folks at vann's get a little dollar sign in their eyes when i walk up to the counter for another few boxes of rounds. i have too many "hobbies" as is, so reloading is out, and i'll just have to grin and bear it.

in short, good gun that will fit the bill for most people and what they want to do.

gator

[landscaper]

When y'all say there may be compatibility issues with aftermarket parts on the DPMS guns are you referring to barrels, bolts, triggers, etc or are you talking about all the pretty bells and whistles you can put on them that just make them look cool?