Hosemann steals six mile lake!

[LODI QUACKER]

Just keep on spouting mis information. The money has been donated, no grant needed. Funding has already been met.

Did you guys not read, not understand or do you simply want to ignore what has already been stated in this post BY THE MAN responsible for the work on the weir project and the water flow through this body of water?

SO Henna Sag, duck-n, what is your personal interest in spreading mis-information?

[DanP]

The Nature Conservancy developed and submitted a project proposal to build the weirs that included some portion of the land donation value as matching funds. Basically if you get $1 you provide $1. Currently no money has been donated or grant funds been awarded. Once again I do not have any information regarding the refuge designation.

JaMak - Will have to ask Tim where we pulled that imagery... I know bits and pieces came from locals, Leflore CO, and an online database. Honestly do not remember.

[DanP]

Ok, i'm no expert , but wont the weir make the waterway unnavagable? if so, the weir accomplishes what they really want, it will give the watterway unnavagable status, then they can say private..stateowned..whatever, keep ya ninga booty out.

Location of proposed weir is in a man made ditch, not a public waterway.

[stang67]

Does Hosemann still have an interest in any property there anymore? The place I thought was his is no longer showing that being the case. I thought the big place on the man made lake southwest of Six Mile was his.

[teul2]

Ok, i'm no expert , but wont the weir make the waterway unnavagable? if so, the weir accomplishes what they really want, it will give the watterway unnavagable status, then they can say private..stateowned..whatever, keep ya ninga booty out.

No, the weir only changes the flow of water to the previous, natural path from before the Money Bayou path was dug.

[Don Miller]

Were there any public notices, economic impact studies, or studies done by a waterfowl biologist pertaining to this "refuge? According to the press release issued by the Secretary of State, the "refuge" would benefit the waterfowl, deer, and turkey along with the hunting in the surrounding areas? Where's the proof to back this up?

[Henna Sag]

I am not trying to misinform people. That is the info I got from somebody that is a good source.

[Bercy]

Side note - http://www.historicaerials.com - has some cool older aerial and topo maps. An aerial of a big chunk of the delta from 1961.

[duramax]

What I'm not getting is that this is a tiny chunk of land (private land no less) that has basically been donated. It's never been public hunting on this. Secondly, Hosemann (to my knowledge) doesn't even hunt down there. He is a member of a club over 30 miles north of there (certainly much further than a refuge of that size to affect his hunting). Thirdly, this isn't a public waterway to even be accessed if you wanted to. His speech was a generic boiler plate public issue of information speaking of any land being turned into wildlife benefiting habitat.

This rings of people who were butt hurt that a rich guy like Jim Kennedy buying York Woods, except this involves the government to boot.

Now if the government starts selling off WMA's to private land holders, then I'll join up in the lynch mob.

[torch]

The bottom line, our state has turned public waters available for duck hunting into a non-huntable refuge to give the owners of the bottoms of a Public waterway a generous tax credit and to protect adjacent private landowners with duck holes by providing a state created "buffer" between them and the public. Not one acre of the donation of land to the state included anything but lake bottoms lying beneath public waters. The per acre value of the donated lake bottoms was apparently $2300+. In the past, similar bottoms of public waterways had appraised for no more than $500 per acre.

AMEN

[stang67]

Not addressed to anyone in particular, but was this area "public" hunting in recent history or not?

[duramax]

The bottom line, our state has turned public waters available for duck hunting into a non-huntable refuge to give the owners of the bottoms of a Public waterway a generous tax credit and to protect adjacent private landowners with duck holes by providing a state created "buffer" between them and the public. Not one acre of the donation of land to the state included anything but lake bottoms lying beneath public waters. The per acre value of the donated lake bottoms was apparently $2300+. In the past, similar bottoms of public waterways had appraised for no more than $500 per acre.

AMEN

You may be correct in some regard. Perhaps I'm just not following you. How can you be a private landowner of public land? In this case, it wasn't public water. It was a man-made ditch. I can see your gripe for them possibly paying too much if that is in fact the case. However, from what I've seen, a sizable portion of this land is flooded timber. Quality flooded timber (whether green or not) is worth far more than $2,300 an acre.

All things being equal however, if I own land, I should be able to do whatever I want to with it within the law. If I want to sell it to the state to benefit my other hunting land (and to a certain degree provide permanent protected habitat to all animals), then so be it. If the money portion is really the main concern, then you may want to evaluate other gov't waste first. I think most reasonable people would MUCH prefer a little government waste on improving wildlife habitat over the massive gluttonous drain of social welfare programs with zero benefit. We're talking drops of water in a bucket overflowing with programs that are nothing more than a boat anchor on our societal and fiscal well being.

[StraightUp]

The bottom line, our state has turned public waters available for duck hunting into a non-huntable refuge to give the owners of the bottoms of a Public waterway a generous tax credit and to protect adjacent private landowners with duck holes by providing a state created "buffer" between them and the public. Not one acre of the donation of land to the state included anything but lake bottoms lying beneath public waters. The per acre value of the donated lake bottoms was apparently $2300+. In the past, similar bottoms of public waterways had appraised for no more than $500 per acre.

AMEN

Well said sir.

[LODI QUACKER]

Duramax this is an oxbow lake that the public has had access to and hunted for decades. Hunted, fished, water skied and used however they wanted because its a public waterway with public and about a 100 cabins of private access on the lake. There is a whole township built around it. Water supply by the community and so forth.



Apparently I was wrong on the weir funding.

[Po Monkey Lounger]

Duramax, while I respect your knowledge in other matters, you have no clue what you are talking about re the subject body of water under discussion.