300 blackout for youth

[peewee]

I know there was some older post about the 300 blackout. I was wondering who is using it for their youth. I spoke with Monty64 yesterday and a camp member but was wanting some more feedback. Also Cwink, I see where you can get it in a Ruger Model. I want to get a rifle for my son, he will be 8 this year. I bought my daughter a 7mm-08 when she was 8 but she was a good bit larger than he is. He also doesn't have near about the shooting experience she has, as she has been my right hand hunter since she was 3 and he hasn't taken a whole lot of interest in hunting. Therefor I would like to start him off with a gun with very little recoil.

Also if anyone knows of a place to shoot around Clinton I would love find a place. We just moved their last fall and I don't know alot of folks.

[Wildfowler]

The 300 blackout will definitely kill a deer at moderate range, but in my opinion it might not be the best choice for youth.

If recoil is your major concern I would encourage you to consider getting a rifle that it's your son that you can put a sound suppressor on. A silencer will reduce felt recoil considerably as well as eliminating most of the harsh blast which can also be troubling for kids.

If you have an encore, I would suggest getting a 16 to 20 inch 308 barrel for it, thread the barrel for a silencer and put some sort of youth stock on the on the encore. And use the managed recoil 308 loads.

I have a buddy who lets his 10-year-old son blast deer with a 300 WSM that has a suppressor installed. A larger cartridge than the 300 blackout will help tremendously in the event of a less than desirable shot placement. That same kid has been shooting deer with the suppressed 308 his entire career.

I personally view the blackout in a similar manner as the way I view a 410 shotgun. For hunting big game it should be reserved for experts. Will definitely work on deer, but I think you should imit your son's shots to less than 75 yards if possible. If you can find ammunition loaded with Hornady 125 grain SST, I think that would probably be your best choice. The Barnes black tip is probably the most popular bullet for the blackout, but it is a defensive/law enforcement bullet and in my opinion way over penetrates deer around here.

[Chuckle12]

I bought my 7yo a 300BLK last year. I bought the AAC handi-rifle. Great little gun. I wouldn't let him shoot over 75-100yds with it, but at his age it doesn't matter what caliber he used the distance would be under 100yds until I am sure he is proficient with his shooting. It has VERY little recoil without having to use a brake or waiting 6 months for a suppressor. I carry it from time to time when walking through the woods. It has a 16" barrel threaded in cased you want to put a suppressor on it in the future. My boy loves it. It is small enough for him to handle well. You will have a hard time finding a rifle to fit anyone around 8yo as well as this gun.

[driveby]

Also consider the 6.8 SPC.

[chevy01234]

My 9 year old step-son will be shooting a suppressed 300blk this season (Remington 700 with SilencerCo Saker). I've killed a few deer and pigs with the blackout and I really like it for a short-medium range gun. He loves his "blackout" as he calls it. This afternoons adventure was a watermelon vs a 110gr Nosler Varmegeddon. He thought it was the coolest thing ever.

[cwink]

There is an ever growing list of great youth rounds

.223 - With the new premium bullets a .223 is an good choice for really young shooters who may be recoil sensitive. Look at the Win 64 Power point bullet..

300 Blackout - it is a .223 case necked up to 30 caliber.. Comparable ballistics to the 30/30. Only limitation is range about 200 yards is max

22 Caliber speed demons - 22-250 or 22 Swift will really put a hurt on deer.. I have seen a buck drop in his tracks at 300 yards from a 220 Swift

6.8 Spc - A 27 Caliber bullet that fits nicely between the .223 and .243

243 More than enough gun for deer.

7mm08 is a capable round for any North American hoofed animal.

Here is a quote from Alaska's Wildlife Dept

"If you presently own a rifle chambered for the .270 Winchester, 7mm-08, .308 Winchester or .30-06 and can place all of your shots in an 8-inch circle out to 200 yards from a sitting or kneeling position you can be a successful Alaska hunter. To be as effective as possible, these cartridges should be loaded with premium quality bullets that are designed to pass completely through a large game animal, if hit in the heart-lung area."

The full article is here.

http://www.adfg.alaska.gov/index.cfm?ad ... g.firearms

[teul2]

There is an ever growing list of great youth rounds

.223 - With the new premium bullets a .223 is an good choice for really young shooters who may be recoil sensitive. Look at the Win 64 Power point bullet..

Guy here at work has some footage off his thermal scope doing depredation work on deer a few weeks ago. 223 with the Federal Fusion 55gr JHP dropped 10+ does in their steps (he missed a few). As long as he got a body shot on them, they died right there. So he started trying to find another 223 JHP that is less costly. Shot a few others in the $11 - $13 per 20 round range, and they worked, but all ran about 50 yards. I wouldn't have thought that little bullet would do that well. But I am now a believer.

[cwink]

There is an ever growing list of great youth rounds

.223 - With the new premium bullets a .223 is an good choice for really young shooters who may be recoil sensitive. Look at the Win 64 Power point bullet..

Guy here at work has some footage off his thermal scope doing depredation work on deer a few weeks ago. 223 with the Federal Fusion 55gr JHP dropped 10+ does in their steps (he missed a few). As long as he got a body shot on them, they died right there. So he started trying to find another 223 JHP that is less costly. Shot a few others in the $11 - $13 per 20 round range, and they worked, but all ran about 50 yards. I wouldn't have thought that little bullet would do that well. But I am now a believer.

You know the old saying.. "Speed Kills" Those little 55 grainers are doing about 3300 fps.. You get into the 22-250 it is closer to 3700 fps and the 220 Swift is over 4000 FPS..

[cwink]

I know there was some older post about the 300 blackout. I was wondering who is using it for their youth. I spoke with Monty64 yesterday and a camp member but was wanting some more feedback. Also Cwink, I see where you can get it in a Ruger Model. I want to get a rifle for my son, he will be 8 this year. I bought my daughter a 7mm-08 when she was 8 but she was a good bit larger than he is. He also doesn't have near about the shooting experience she has, as she has been my right hand hunter since she was 3 and he hasn't taken a whole lot of interest in hunting. Therefor I would like to start him off with a gun with very little recoil.

Also if anyone knows of a place to shoot around Clinton I would love find a place. We just moved their last fall and I don't know alot of folks.

The 300 would make a great youth gun. The best decision is probably what do you plan on doing with it long term..

The advantage of the 300 is more knockdown power than the 5.56, but it really starts to shine when you get into suppressed shooting.. If you are planning on just using it in the interim until he grows int the 7mm08 then maybe the 223 makes more sense.. Cheaper to shoot and you could always use it as a varmit gun in the future after he outgrows it..

Recoil from least to greatest would be 223,300,22-250/220 Swift, 6.8 SPC, 243, 7mm08.

Holler at me if I can help you with a purchase..