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Re: Drones

Postby Wingman » Sat Feb 07, 2015 12:34 am

A Phantom UAV (the kind everybody is getting) weighs in the neighborhood of 2 pounds. 2 pounds 5 ounces on the first site I clicked on.

A red-tailed hawk weighs from 1.5 to 3 pounds.

I would say a drone can damage an aircraft, because a hawk surely can.

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Re: Drones

Postby 99beers » Sat Feb 07, 2015 10:48 am

Are you anti drone mr. wingman?

Serious question..... What is you take on using a drone for private wildlife survey's on private property? I would assume as long as you are not flying to low and "harrassing" the wildlife, you are okay doing so? I know some states have banned drones for this use.
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Re: Drones

Postby Wingman » Sat Feb 07, 2015 11:03 am

No I'm not anti drone. I think they're pretty neat. Folks just need to be responsible with them.
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Re: Drones

Postby Po Monkey Lounger » Sat Feb 07, 2015 3:45 pm

Any drone that flies over my property within my legal airspace will be shot down if I see it. Generally, anything flying below 500 ft ( Feds have declared area above 500 ft as part of public airways) would be fair game. And since drones cannot be flown above 500 feet, they are trespassing when over private lands and a legitimate target.

I am developing/acquiring some anti-drone weapons --- 1) an unplugged 10 GA Browning shotgun with 30 inch barrel, extended range choke, with extended magazine, shooting 3 1/2 inch coyote shot; 2) a small laser with surprising range that can burn a hole through small objects, mounted on a shotgun or rifle barrel; 3) a 22cal Ruger rifle with scope and high capacity magazine; and 4) considering getting my own drone and arming it to be able to shoot down other drones.

Drone hunting will make a great off season sport. Open all year with no bag limits.

So you drone boys gear up. And us drone hunters will do the same.

Let the drone wars begin. Looking forward to the action.
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Re: Drones

Postby stang67 » Sat Feb 07, 2015 6:17 pm

Seriously, if I can be trusted to own a gun, I can be trusted with a hunk of harmless plastic on my own property.
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Re: Drones

Postby DanP » Sat Feb 07, 2015 6:53 pm

We own and use a drone and I support FAA regulation on their use. Too many friends in yella planes around the Delta not to. Fact is there are a bunch of idiots in this world and idiots with drones are just not a good idea.
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Re: Drones

Postby 99beers » Sat Feb 07, 2015 7:57 pm

Po Monkey Lounger wrote:Any drone that flies over my property within my legal airspace will be shot down if I see it. Generally, anything flying below 500 ft ( Feds have declared area above 500 ft as part of public airways) would be fair game. And since drones cannot be flown above 500 feet, they are trespassing when over private lands and a legitimate target.

I am developing/acquiring some anti-drone weapons --- 1) an unplugged 10 GA Browning shotgun with 30 inch barrel, extended range choke, with extended magazine, shooting 3 1/2 inch coyote shot; 2) a small laser with surprising range that can burn a hole through small objects, mounted on a shotgun or rifle barrel; 3) a 22cal Ruger rifle with scope and high capacity magazine; and 4) considering getting my own drone and arming it to be able to shoot down other drones.

Drone hunting will make a great off season sport. Open all year with no bag limits.

So you drone boys gear up. And us drone hunters will do the same.

Let the drone wars begin. Looking forward to the action.
Uh, you own no airspace period. You shoot it, you will pay for it. Some are only 1000 or so, others are over 10g cost. Have fun. Bring your check book. Legally you fail, though it might be fun. An expensive kind of fun. Maybe you should stick with skeet?
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Re: Drones

Postby 7ducks » Sat Feb 07, 2015 8:19 pm

DanP wrote:We own and use a drone and I support FAA regulation on their use. Too many friends in yella planes around the Delta not to. Fact is there are a bunch of idiots in this world and idiots with drones are just not a good idea.
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Re: Drones

Postby DoublePslayer » Sat Feb 07, 2015 9:02 pm

99beers wrote:DoubledP with all do respect you are repeating what you heard and where told, from folks who basically don't know anymore than you or I on this matter. Why? Because there are no laws/regulations on the books concerning drones/uav/uas use. Advisors and recommendations have been issued.

Please don't scare the hobby folks that do not fly for money. They are perfectly legal as long as they fly under 400' and 4 miles away from airports and in a safe manner With or without a camera.

The problem comes with flying commercial for payment. Again, no laws are on the books, but a big grey area exists because of the word commercial, and the word aircraft, which the FAA can regulate, but at this time there is no standard for regulation.

No one has been prosecuted for flying commercial. A few have been prosecuted for flying unsafe, and have indeed been fined. A lot has changed in the last couple of months, including the FAA no longer sending out cease and desist letters. There are many large aerial photographers who continue to fly commercial on advise from there attorneys and are doing so with no special exceptions.

With all that being said, the FAA can still make your life miserable if they so choose, so I suggest contacting an attorney if you plan on flying for money. Or you can just wait this thing out, which many are doing.

More info can be found on this Facebook page. https://www.facebook.com/groups/uavLegalNews/
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Re: Drones

Postby Po Monkey Lounger » Sat Feb 07, 2015 9:14 pm

Well 99beers, the Supreme Court of the United States says differently. My property rights do indeed include the airspace above my property, up to potentially 500 feet. And your drone hovering over it would indeed be trespassing if within that distance. If I can hit your drone with a shotgun, you are too close.
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Re: Drones

Postby Wingman » Sat Feb 07, 2015 9:57 pm

So did anyone notice the giraffe or did that just get lost in the confusion?
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Re: Drones

Postby 99beers » Sat Feb 07, 2015 10:09 pm

Po Monkey Lounger wrote:Well 99beers, the Supreme Court of the United States says differently. My property rights do indeed include the airspace above my property, up to potentially 500 feet. And your drone hovering over it would indeed be trespassing if within that distance. If I can hit your drone with a shotgun, you are too close.
Dead wrong son. Do you also think you own the mineral rights below your property? You have said some stupid $#!+ on this forum, but this takes the cake. Ignorance.
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Re: Drones

Postby JaMak84 » Sat Feb 07, 2015 10:13 pm

Wingman wrote:So did anyone notice the giraffe or did that just get lost in the confusion?
Yep, but figured terrestrial obstacles weren't germane to the discussion. Y'all got giraffe on the air strips over there in Humphreys county now?
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Re: Drones

Postby JaMak84 » Sat Feb 07, 2015 10:16 pm

99beers wrote:
Po Monkey Lounger wrote:Well 99beers, the Supreme Court of the United States says differently. My property rights do indeed include the airspace above my property, up to potentially 500 feet. And your drone hovering over it would indeed be trespassing if within that distance. If I can hit your drone with a shotgun, you are too close.
Dead wrong son. Do you also think you own the mineral rights below your property? You have said some stupid caca on this forum, but this takes the cake. Ignorance.
Well....This discussion just got a bit more interesting.
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Re: Drones

Postby teul2 » Sat Feb 07, 2015 10:25 pm

99beers wrote:
Po Monkey Lounger wrote:Well 99beers, the Supreme Court of the United States says differently. My property rights do indeed include the airspace above my property, up to potentially 500 feet. And your drone hovering over it would indeed be trespassing if within that distance. If I can hit your drone with a shotgun, you are too close.
Dead wrong son. Do you also think you own the mineral rights below your property? You have said some stupid caca on this forum, but this takes the cake. Ignorance.
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