Drones

[99beers]

To clear up a few things........

There are no laws on the books concerning Drones/Uav's (only suggestions and circulars)

Hobbyist will be only slighty affected. (safety n airports n altitude)

This is all about commercial use of drones.

No one as ever been prosecuted for flying a drone safely. Even commercial. (fine is 10,000, guy was prosecuted commercial use, Texas Fed judge thru it out, faa appealed, and they got him for 1000 for flying in an unsafe manner). Google Univ. of Virg. and drone

A goose will do more damage to a plane than the lightweight drones.

They are pretty safe, but they can fly away.

Again, NO LAWS are on the books concerning drone/uav's. That will change soon.

I expect registered and licensed use for commercial only. Some type of ground school. Pilot license will not be required. This is all being looked at now, but a ruling/law was suppose to be already in effect. Some say it may still take a while.

Until then, if you fly safely, commercial or not, then fly on. They (faa) will send a cease and desist order before prosecution, and as of now, they have to prove you were flying unsafe. (unsafe is flying above 400', out of sight, to close to airport, in congested area's, to close to buildings, over traffic, over crowds of people, to name a few).

There are some good discussion groups on facebook.

[southernvaughan]

I've been thinking about getting one for doing virtual tours of properties and homes I have listed.

[Wingman]

You will have to get a commercial pilots license for that, according to what I've read lately.

[tombstone]

You will have to get a commercial pilots license for that, according to what I've read lately.

Do I have to be current and have a medical to fly one and find the deer in the grass fields?

[99beers]

You will have to get a commercial pilots license for that, according to what I've read lately.

Not true, unless you file for exemption 333, then true.

Again, the rules/laws/regulations have not yet been determined. Right now the FAA is playing bully. I have also read they are no longer sending cease and desist letters to those flying commercially, because they have no legal grounds of enforcement. BUT, they can and will get you for "unsafe" flying.

[JaMak84]

What's the payload on them things? I'd love to drop a grenade or two on a sounder of pigs.

[three11]

http://youtu.be/SNPJMk2fgJU

I'm gonna build some of these. Gonna use cordless drills for motors and rob the guts out of my kid's Radio Shack remote control car. Strap an old 1187 to that bad boy and you won't even have to get out of the truck to go hunting anymore. If anyone wants one just let me know. Just don't tell Mr. Greenjeans.

[99beers]

Me want!!!!!

[Wingman]

Awesome!

[DoublePslayer]

I am confused. You are really trying to say I Have to have a pilots license to fly a drone? Dude, you may be taking it to the extreme. Remote control planes have been around for YEARS and never once I have ever heard of this. It sounds like you are very proud of your certificates as which you should be but don't try to impose what you think you know to something you may not know. I am sure you will prob take this the wrong way, but before you do think of the years and years of RC plane usage and no one has ever been arrested for such.

First of all, "I" am not saying anything about what you have to have to fly one of these. This is coming straight from the Flight Standards office in Jackson. I was down there back in December for a meeting, and this was one of the topics of discussion. They are sending out cease and desist letters to people that they hear about flying these things, but they won't send out a second one if you catch my drift.

Second, I am very proud of my certificates and ratings, to the point that you will not catch me doing anything to jeopardize them, so I won't touch a drone until all this stuff has been ruled on and is spelled out completely.

As far as the RC planes are concerned, they cannot be operated over 400 feet above ground level, and within 4 miles of any public airport. (Private is another matter.) The thing that get someone on the FAA radar is the camera that is on the UAS.

Like I said before, there are a ton of things that a drone will be good for, and I can imagine that all the regulations will be out within a year or so. But, until then, you are flying them at your own risk. Am I going to call in someone that is flying one of these things. NO. But if I hit one in a plane, or even come close to hitting on, then I am going to take it as an attempt on my life, and treat it as such. If you are big enough to fly one of these thing, then I expect you to do so in a safe manner.

[deltadukman]

A golfer knocked one down out of the sky the other day with a tee shot. Im not that worried about it messing up an airplane.

[Wingman]

Do you fly, deltadukman? I bet a tee shot would take a human out, too, and I dang sure wouldn't want to hit an Internet smartass with a plane.

[99beers]

DoubledP with all do respect you are repeating what you heard and where told, from folks who basically don't know anymore than you or I on this matter. Why? Because there are no laws/regulations on the books concerning drones/uav/uas use. Advisors and recommendations have been issued.

Please don't scare the hobby folks that do not fly for money. They are perfectly legal as long as they fly under 400' and 4 miles away from airports and in a safe manner With or without a camera.

The problem comes with flying commercial for payment. Again, no laws are on the books, but a big grey area exists because of the word commercial, and the word aircraft, which the FAA can regulate, but at this time there is no standard for regulation.

No one has been prosecuted for flying commercial. A few have been prosecuted for flying unsafe, and have indeed been fined. A lot has changed in the last couple of months, including the FAA no longer sending out cease and desist letters. There are many large aerial photographers who continue to fly commercial on advise from there attorneys and are doing so with no special exceptions.

With all that being said, the FAA can still make your life miserable if they so choose, so I suggest contacting an attorney if you plan on flying for money. Or you can just wait this thing out, which many are doing.

More info can be found on this Facebook page. https://www.facebook.com/groups/uavLegalNews/

[99beers]

Also for fun, keep your eye on Panama City news this weekend. A commercial drone pilot has verbally challenged the FAA to shut him down as he flys for payment filming Mardi Gra parades this weekend.

He is loaded and will have two of his attorneys at his side. Of course, he will be flying safely by what little rules we have, not flying right above the crowds. He has no special exemptions, no pilots license, but he does have a million dollar liability policy he presented to the city with approval from them to fly.

Could be interesting.

[deltadukman]

Do you fly, deltadukman? I bet a tee shot would take a human out, too, and I dang sure wouldn't want to hit an Internet smartass with a plane.

Just stating facts, not being a "smartass", but I have plenty of friends that fly and not for a hobby either...do you golf?