nothing that is illegal, just dont like folks messing with me and my property just because they want to and say cause they can. They are the law, so make them follow the same law they enforce.4dawgma wrote:MrGoodtime wrote:Gona have to produce a search warrant signed by a judge and listing probable cause to go through my truck.
I've never understood that line of reasoning. Yeah, I had that attitude when I was young. I also ended up with over 60 moving violations in 6 states over 5 years, even been in slammer on more occasions than I'd like to admit. So I know what it means to f ug up. But being a dick to the cops just makes things more difficult than they need to be. Of course there are some awhole cops but I've found its best just go with flow and get on with my life. Case in point, (not that this guy was a d!ck, quite the contrary) I was pulled over in madison while building a retaining wall not so long ago. Cop pulled me over in Lowe's parking lot for not wearing a seatbelt and (I'm guessing) an Oktibbeha tag. Next thing you know it's looking like the SWAT team surrounding my truck. Camo BDU's, sunglasses, assault vests with all manner of paraphernalia and whatnot. Guy was nice but I thought a bit overkill for little ole me. They asked if "I took responsibility for everything in the truck" and permission to search. Sure man, ain't no shame in my my game. Half gallon of rum and 30-30 behind the seat, 40 in glove box, 1911 under the seat, 12 gauge in toolbox, boxes of various calibers and other knick-knaks throughout the cab. Hell, I don't even know whats floating around in there. After a few minutes of shooting the breeze and running my permits, it was "I'ma let you off with a warning on the seatbelt and have a nice day".
Now had I been awhole Dawgma, things could have easy went the other way. I just don't see it. Those guys are out there doing their best to protect my safety and yours. Warrant to search yer truck? What you totin' in there?
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Not sure which laws you're referring to, but like I said, I like to just move on. I pulled that number back in earlier 90's on a North Carolina Highway (back before cell phones and what not). Spent 4 hours huffing and puffing about warrant to search my truck like billy booty. Guess I pissed off the wrong guy. After the dogs and cops left with nothing but a warning for an inspection sticker (which I'm not even sure they have up there) I spent another 3 hours reloading my trailer and truck. Got a few other good stories but them days is behind me now. The preacher says all my sins is warshed away, including that Piggly Wiggly I knocked over in Yazoo. I aint carrying that rock no more. Not saying I don't break itty bitty laws every now and then, but I don't mind talking to cops or green jeans anymore. Hell, sometimes they can point you to a good honey hole.
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The law stateing that the cant search you truck without your consent or probable cause, if they have probable cause i want a signed warrant stateing what the probable cause is, , there is nothing in, or has ever been in my truck that is illegal ,i dont mind a " in plain sight " glance into my truck , i do mind someone digging through my belongings. I dont mind standing around wating for the warrant to get there, i'm never in a hurry. To many people today are willing to just step aside and have ther rights trampled on, sorry, i'm not one of those sheeple.
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This. It's dangerous that so many people are so apathetic when it comes to constitutional rights. In this case it was just easier and more convenient to comply, which doesn't excuse it.MrGoodtime wrote:The law stateing that the cant search you truck without your consent or probable cause, if they have probable cause i want a signed warrant stateing what the probable cause is, , there is nothing in, or has ever been in my truck that is illegal ,i dont mind a " in plain sight " glance into my truck , i do mind someone digging through my belongings. I dont mind standing around wating for the warrant to get there, i'm never in a hurry. To many people today are willing to just step aside and have ther rights trampled on, sorry, i'm not one of those sheeple.
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You might want to read the WMA rules before entering.MrGoodtime wrote:
Gona have to produce a search warrant signed by a judge and listing probable cause to go through my truck.
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Dont need to read them, dont hunt public land.Wingman wrote:You might want to read the WMA rules before entering.MrGoodtime wrote:
Gona have to produce a search warrant signed by a judge and listing probable cause to go through my truck.
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Well don't be driving on a county road that just happens to run through a WMA
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Only one i even get close to is in the free state of tallahachie , and i aint worried bout nothing over there
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That's exactly what they doing on a WMA. Read the rules. You, your vehicle and even your camp may be searched at any time while on a WMA. If you don't like it better stay off of em!MrGoodtime wrote:nothing that is illegal, just dont like folks messing with me and my property just because they want to and say cause they can. They are the law, so make them follow the same law they enforce.4dawgma wrote:MrGoodtime wrote:Gona have to produce a search warrant signed by a judge and listing probable cause to go through my truck.
I've never understood that line of reasoning. Yeah, I had that attitude when I was young. I also ended up with over 60 moving violations in 6 states over 5 years, even been in slammer on more occasions than I'd like to admit. So I know what it means to f ug up. But being a dick to the cops just makes things more difficult than they need to be. Of course there are some awhole cops but I've found its best just go with flow and get on with my life. Case in point, (not that this guy was a d!ck, quite the contrary) I was pulled over in madison while building a retaining wall not so long ago. Cop pulled me over in Lowe's parking lot for not wearing a seatbelt and (I'm guessing) an Oktibbeha tag. Next thing you know it's looking like the SWAT team surrounding my truck. Camo BDU's, sunglasses, assault vests with all manner of paraphernalia and whatnot. Guy was nice but I thought a bit overkill for little ole me. They asked if "I took responsibility for everything in the truck" and permission to search. Sure man, ain't no shame in my my game. Half gallon of rum and 30-30 behind the seat, 40 in glove box, 1911 under the seat, 12 gauge in toolbox, boxes of various calibers and other knick-knaks throughout the cab. Hell, I don't even know whats floating around in there. After a few minutes of shooting the breeze and running my permits, it was "I'ma let you off with a warning on the seatbelt and have a nice day".
Now had I been awhole Dawgma, things could have easy went the other way. I just don't see it. Those guys are out there doing their best to protect my safety and yours. Warrant to search yer truck? What you totin' in there?
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I was told today south delta wma has been funded for one more year. Thank Thad Cochran.
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Wonder about the south ms Chris MCDaniel camp that actually uses it thinks?
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deltadukman wrote:Wonder about the south ms Chris MCDaniel camp that actually uses it thinks?
Don't know, I was just told where the funding pod came from.
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Funding by COE for mitigation projects, or lack thereof, is the result of a larger policy issue.
When COE plans projects ( eg dredging rivers), part of the process involves an environmental impact study that determines the likely detrimental impact of the project ( eg loss of wetlands) and sets forth proposed mitigation projects to offset the anticipated damage. The COE project cannot go forward without this expensive environmental study, proposed mitigation, and public comment. Thereafter, the project and its funding must be approved by Congress.
The real fraud in this process is that there is no mechanism for recourse by taxpayers/citizens if the COE fails to carry out the approved mitigation. Under the law, the COE/federal govt cannot be sued for not doing what they said they would do in order to get the project approved. The COE will blame the Congress for cutting off funding. Congress will blame the CEO for a project with never-ending costs. And somewhere in the middle of this blame game, wetlands are being lost, and/or we are losing huntable lands.
At some point one has to ask: why even go through the charade of the environmental impact studies if the proposed mitigation to offset the negative impacts is not absolutely required to be done? Sounds like a huge waste of money and time.
So, the ultimate result of this farce is that the ball gets frequently dropped on these mitigation projects. And as an aggrieved citizen/sportsman there is nothing you can do about it ........ except.......
Change the law, and change the result. Or, another way to say it, don't approve the projects absent guarantees of mitigation. Publicly call BS on the unenforceable proposed mitigation related to these projects. Light up the phone lines of your Congress critters --- House and Senate.
When COE plans projects ( eg dredging rivers), part of the process involves an environmental impact study that determines the likely detrimental impact of the project ( eg loss of wetlands) and sets forth proposed mitigation projects to offset the anticipated damage. The COE project cannot go forward without this expensive environmental study, proposed mitigation, and public comment. Thereafter, the project and its funding must be approved by Congress.
The real fraud in this process is that there is no mechanism for recourse by taxpayers/citizens if the COE fails to carry out the approved mitigation. Under the law, the COE/federal govt cannot be sued for not doing what they said they would do in order to get the project approved. The COE will blame the Congress for cutting off funding. Congress will blame the CEO for a project with never-ending costs. And somewhere in the middle of this blame game, wetlands are being lost, and/or we are losing huntable lands.
At some point one has to ask: why even go through the charade of the environmental impact studies if the proposed mitigation to offset the negative impacts is not absolutely required to be done? Sounds like a huge waste of money and time.
So, the ultimate result of this farce is that the ball gets frequently dropped on these mitigation projects. And as an aggrieved citizen/sportsman there is nothing you can do about it ........ except.......
Change the law, and change the result. Or, another way to say it, don't approve the projects absent guarantees of mitigation. Publicly call BS on the unenforceable proposed mitigation related to these projects. Light up the phone lines of your Congress critters --- House and Senate.
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Oh. I see. Blame it on us Mudsuckers!
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Which districts are supposively behind on their mitigation proposals?
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