Mississippi is ready for some change

[jwayne]

[quote="chopper30"][quote="teul2"][quote="southdeltan"][quote="teul2"]
And my deep seeded belief in term limits is going to play in todays vote for me.[/quote]

I see a lot of people saying this, and typically by term limits people mean 2 terms in a post. McDaniel has served 1.5 terms (6 years) in the MS Senate. If he wins and runs two terms in the US that'd be 18 years. I guess he's going to retire from politics at that point, but if he doesn't - will the total time in office (all posts he would serve) not matter if he's moving around. Say he runs for the House after 2 terms in the Senate, or for Governor. Would he still be considered a vote-worthy non career politician at that point? I'm just curious. How long is too long? 42 apparently is too long for some people, but 36 was ok. [/quote]
I think you are reading WAY to much into my statement. I've never really thought that deeply about it. But since you ask, 2 terms per post (state, fed, local, what ever) sounds about right to me.[/quote]

I'm all for term limits in College Football. I mean Saban has been doing good for Alabama for too long, let's tell him he can't do good for them any longer.

Anyone that supported McDaniel, but will not vote for Cochran now is definitely not part of the solution but part of the problem. Looking at you jwayne[/quote]


This is actually very funny coming from someone who supports the “Status Quo” Someone who complains about the way big government is ran and then when had a chance to do something about it, didn’t. But that’s ok, you can call me part of the problem, frankly I don’t care. And in my view

Thad = Travis just as Potato = Potato

And by the way, I would have been 100% behind Thad if they would not have resorted to recruiting democrats to win and to me, that’s morally reprehensible. If you are going to live by that gun then you better be ready to die by that gun. You just better hope Thad’s Democratic friends are there to help you in the General (which they want be). And because of this I could never vote for him now in good conscience.

People always want to complain about government and the way its run, but when you bring up their Representative, “Oh it’s not my Representative fault; he’s doing all he can.”

[chopper30]

When did I say any of that. I've gotten on here and explained why I think Thad was the better of the two candidates. Never said I didn't think there was a better candidate or that Thad couldn't do better. I'm mad at the Washington Democrats too, but I'm not placing the blame on Thad. Status Quo this or status quo that, bottom line is Thad takes care of MS like few could and that's why he won the election. Personally, I strongly approve of his support of conservation and infrastructure.

Everyone on here acts like its black and white, cut and dry. "I can't support democrats voting for Cochran." Happens all the time. Tell me if you live in the City of Jackson, that you shouldn't vote in the Democratic primary for Mayor because you are Republican? When you realize your party isn't going to win your election, should you: A) throw your vote out there anyway (waste) even though your party will not win or B) vote for the best candidate in your opinion that can win? I'm not saying they all did, but do you not think the more educated Democrats could have viewed yesterday that way, got on board and encouraged others?

Not voting for the GOP in November is a vote for the Democrats whether you actually cast a vote or not.

[teul2]

I think you are reading WAY to much into my statement. I've never really thought that deeply about it. But since you ask, 2 terms per post (state, fed, local, what ever) sounds about right to me.

I'm all for term limits in College Football. I mean Saban has been doing good for Alabama for too long, let's tell him he can't do good for them any longer.

My view of DC, or any elected political official is that after a time in office, they loose something. That something that made them seek out that position to help change the system.
IMHO, nothing in DC works as it seems, or should. To pass a legit regulation, it has to be a rider on some 300 page BS law. No one submits a simple 2 page "you do this, you go to jail for this" law. It's all cloak and dagger. And I have no respect for it. So changing out the bath water every so often seems like a dam good idea to me.
Would term limits remove the good with the bad, yes.
Would this return our country to a place more like when it was founded by removing career politicians? I would hope. Because what we need is more citizen statesmen, not politicians.


Oh, while we are at it, reduce their salary and benefits as well.
rant over.

And I will support Thad in the primary. I'll not ever be caught voting for any democrat.

[Deltamud77]

[quoteMcDaniel did these things?][/quote]

Nope, but he sure as heck lied about his knowledge of them.

[chopper30]

Good post, agree.

[deltadukman]

[quoteMcDaniel did these things?]

Nope, but he sure as heck lied about his knowledge of them.[/quote]


We can play tiddly winks all day...why did the cochran camp wait 3 weeks to contact authorities on the nursing home fiasco? If that was your wife and you really cared about her, would you wait 3 weeks? Hail no!

[Deltamud77]

[quoteMcDaniel did these things?]

Nope, but he sure as heck lied about his knowledge of them.

We can play tiddly winks all day...why did the cochran camp wait 3 weeks to contact authorities on the nursing home fiasco? If that was your wife and you really cared about her, would you wait 3 weeks? Hail no![/quote]

Valid point...which I have made before. Once again, I am not some grandstander for Cochran. Best case scenario is that he stepped down and let some new people run for the spot. My issue is with McDaniel. He is not Senator material...heck, he is not even respected in the MS senate.

If you have heard McDaniel's speech from last night, you should inherently know that he would have been a poor choice to be representing this state for the next 6 years in Washington.

[deltadukman]

I am not a McDaniel grandstander myself. I didn’t have any problem with Cochran, voted for him the first go round, but he and his establishment handlers pizzed in their Cheerios with me as far as the buying the democrat votes. It is true what they say, "there is no honor among thieves", and the last week of this campaign solidified that. Integrity is doing what is right even when no one is looking. Sure it may not technically be illegal, but neither is adultery.

[bustercat64]

Senator Cochron might like the Blues better than we think. He might have just sold his soul to the devil to get elected. You can bet your house the Bennie Thompson did not get behind him for nothing.

[JDgator]

Cochran is now saying he supports "common sense immigration reform." I guess that means there will be no wall but we will grant amnesty to the illegals. Now that he doesn't have to be conservative he can appeal to our amigos.

[donia]

...You can bet your house the Bennie Thompson did not get behind him for nothing.

yep

[peewee]

The Cochran voters can thank themselves for liberal immigration policies, healthcare compromises, budget deficits and all the other liberal agendas out there. Pat yourselves on the back!!!

[deltadukman]

Senator Cochron might like the Blues better than we think. He might have just sold his soul to the devil to get elected. You can bet your house the Bennie Thompson did not get behind him for nothing.

Came out yesterday from Ole Bennie himself

Senator Thad Cochran (R., Miss.) needs to reward the black voters who crossed party lines to support him in his runoff against tea party challenger Chris McDaniel by backing some concrete policy initiatives, according the the state’s only member of the Congressional Black Caucus.

“We have historically black colleges in our state who do the best job they can trying to educate our citizens,” Representative Bennie G. Thompson told National Review Online during a Wednesday interview at the Capitol. ”I’d like to see efforts that they receive full funding. I’d like to see the health care of our citizens improved; our children die too young. I’d like to see an increased effort to make sure that the minority unemployment rate inn our state is reduced. So, there are a lot of opportunities for us to start with.”

[Deltamud77]

The Cochran voters can thank themselves for liberal immigration policies, healthcare compromises, budget deficits and all the other liberal agendas out there. Pat yourselves on the back!!!

Right, because McDaniel was going to be able to stop all of that.

[fireplug]

Seems strange that we all talk about using the voting booth to set our own term limits on our elected officials since they would never pass that law themselves.
And out of the other side of our mouth we say, just not our guy. Seems pretty silly to me. I guess some like lifetime politicians that are not in touch with what
really happens in Ms. If you never come to Ms, there is no way you can be grounded in what Ms really is about. It was God's will that Cochran went back in
to office. We will never understand it so let it rest, and move on. If you want to term limit Cochran, vote for Childers, if you can stomach him for 6 years. I personally don't see much difference Childers & Cochran. Only benefit voting for Childers will give the people of Ms is that maybe we will get a good republican to
run against him in 2021 instead of allowing the GOP establishment to pick OUR representative for us in a year or two when Thad retires. \
That is your choice to make at the voting booth in November, just like it was the black voter's choice Tuesday.

I'm torn over it myself. I can't see myself voting for Cochran and going against my own principles, but I don't know if I can stomach 6 years of democrat
representing me in DC. It's bad enough I don't have any representation from Benny Thompson. Really should focus hard next election cycle and organizing
a crossover vote to get rid of him just like they did with Cochran. Beat them at their own game. Hard decision coming in November. Not sure I can
pull the lever for Cochran.