Calm down Nancy..... if you cant take a little ribbing from time to time then i can assure you this wont be the place for you.... not a lot of slack cut around here. But if you can sit back and enjoy and give a little ribbing back when the chance comesddub98765 wrote:Thanks to everyone who gave honest opinions. Guess ill get me a 350 hp mercury and put on the back of it so it will make everyone happy and be a good joke to everyone. Even though it wont be in compliance with the US Coast Guard. And it says alot when Ya'lls most respected person on here pops off with a silly comment like that.
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Ddub... please read the title of your post what is the fasted new outboard. I answered your question. I didn't take time to read your post as the question was pretty plainly stated in your title. I would never ask what is the fastest outboard when speaking about a 25-40 hp motor. Plain and simple it's not even close.
In further discussion if you truly want a fast motor have your boat re rated as a commercial vessel fairly straightforward process and doesn't take much of your time. Then you determine the proper HP rating. I call BS on a max hp rating of 40hp on an 1848 that is WAY underpowered and I would think it's almost unsafe to put a 25 hp motor on a boat that size. I would check with the manufacturer I think you have some bad info.
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In further discussion if you truly want a fast motor have your boat re rated as a commercial vessel fairly straightforward process and doesn't take much of your time. Then you determine the proper HP rating. I call BS on a max hp rating of 40hp on an 1848 that is WAY underpowered and I would think it's almost unsafe to put a 25 hp motor on a boat that size. I would check with the manufacturer I think you have some bad info.
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Jeff I agree with you, he did say "fastest new outboard"! But talking about the rating plate. Unless something has changed recently, all manufacturers put a max of 40 hp on any tiller operated boat. By BIA standards you are suppose to have remote steering to get a rating above 40 hp. Same with stick sticking. They will not rate a "stick steer" boat above 40hp regardless the size.Jeff wrote:Ddub... please read the title of your post what is the fasted new outboard. I answered your question. I didn't take time to read your post as the question was pretty plainly stated in your title. I would never ask what is the fastest outboard when speaking about a 25-40 hp motor. Plain and simple it's not even close.
In further discussion if you truly want a fast motor have your boat re rated as a commercial vessel fairly straightforward process and doesn't take much of your time. Then you determine the proper HP rating. I call BS on a max hp rating of 40hp on an 1848 that is WAY underpowered and I would think it's almost unsafe to put a 25 hp motor on a boat that size. I would check with the manufacturer I think you have some bad info.
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If thats the case then what is the point in 90 and 115 stick steer motors?BR549 wrote:Jeff I agree with you, he did say "fastest new outboard"! But talking about the rating plate. Unless something has changed recently, all manufacturers put a max of 40 hp on any tiller operated boat. By BIA standards you are suppose to have remote steering to get a rating above 40 hp. Same with stick sticking. They will not rate a "stick steer" boat above 40hp regardless the size.Jeff wrote:Ddub... please read the title of your post what is the fasted new outboard. I answered your question. I didn't take time to read your post as the question was pretty plainly stated in your title. I would never ask what is the fastest outboard when speaking about a 25-40 hp motor. Plain and simple it's not even close.
In further discussion if you truly want a fast motor have your boat re rated as a commercial vessel fairly straightforward process and doesn't take much of your time. Then you determine the proper HP rating. I call BS on a max hp rating of 40hp on an 1848 that is WAY underpowered and I would think it's almost unsafe to put a 25 hp motor on a boat that size. I would check with the manufacturer I think you have some bad info.
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I have had this conversation with 549 before. I think he is saying that the manuf. will not rig a boat with a higher HP than 40 with tiller or stick. You the consumer can do as you please. But may open yourself up to additional liability.
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I figured the Lunds and other boats I've seen running around with 115hp tillers must have had a commercial rating to still be legal.
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It has nothing to do with legality. It's all about covering their butts on Liability. You as the consumer can put any size motor on any size boat if you wish. The boat will not be illegal. But should you have an accident, you've opened yourself up to possibly a serious liability claim simply because the BIA and or Coastguard said it was above their safe recommendations. No legitimate tournament organization that Im aware of will allow over rated boats for this reason. Most insurance companies won't knowingly insure boats that are over rated either. Why because of Liability exposure. The same reason a dealer won't put a motor on bigger than recommended. If you were to have an accident then he becomes part of that liability. Commercially rated boats fall under a different category. They are not even required to have flotation in em. You can purchase and do what you please with em including getting insurance to a point. At one point and time you had to show proof of being a commercial fisherman or in some kind of commercial business requiring the use of the bigger motors but that went away long ago.Trip wrote:I figured the Lunds and other boats I've seen running around with 115hp tillers must have had a commercial rating to still be legal.
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There's a reason the mercurys are cheaper.... The Nissan my buddy has has been a good motor
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BR549 wrote:It has nothing to do with legality. It's all about covering their butts on Liability. You as the consumer can put any size motor on any size boat if you wish. The boat will not be illegal. But should you have an accident, you've opened yourself up to possibly a serious liability claim simply because the BIA and or Coastguard said it was above their safe recommendations. No legitimate tournament organization that Im aware of will allow over rated boats for this reason. Most insurance companies won't knowingly insure boats that are over rated either. Why because of Liability exposure. The same reason a dealer won't put a motor on bigger than recommended. If you were to have an accident then he becomes part of that liability. Commercially rated boats fall under a different category. They are not even required to have flotation in em. You can purchase and do what you please with em including getting insurance to a point. At one point and time you had to show proof of being a commercial fisherman or in some kind of commercial business requiring the use of the bigger motors but that went away long ago.Trip wrote:I figured the Lunds and other boats I've seen running around with 115hp tillers must have had a commercial rating to still be legal.
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Huh? I have a 754 War Eagle with a 50hp rating on the plate? Fully skinned out, floor etc.. NOT built with a console etc.. The same exact boat with a console is rated for a 90.BR549 wrote: Jeff I agree with you, he did say "fastest new outboard"! But talking about the rating plate. Unless something has changed recently, all manufacturers put a max of 40 hp on any tiller operated boat. By BIA standards you are suppose to have remote steering to get a rating above 40 hp. Same with stick sticking. They will not rate a "stick steer" boat above 40hp regardless the size.
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I have a 1652 G3 with a 40 Yamaha. In my opinion It will flat out fly.
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Yes, I thought I misread it when it said "what's the fastest outboard" and then was followed up with 25hp and 40hp.....a bit confusingJeff wrote:Fastest would likely be a 2 stroke 350 hp mercury racing engine I would think. Unless you wanted to have a specialty shop work on the cylinders for you however I am not a big fan of that, not to mention going that fast in a boat.
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Don't doubt that one bit. There were a bunch of 754's got out like that. But they were all skinned and floored, have extra flotation in them and are heavier. All those different things factor into the recommendation. Actually the Screaming Eagle version of the 754 was rated for 115 hp. But as a rule most tiller operated boats when leaving the factory are just open floored jon boats and thereby get the standard 40hp rating plate. But again this is ONLY A RECOMENDATION! There is no law that says a bigger motor can't be used. If the manufacturer feels comfortable with his rating he can certainly use it as long as it's within the formula. Length x width x depth divided by a certain factor determine what a hull can be rated up to. Now if anything less than that rating is applied to a boat it's because the manufacturer feels that for one reason or another (lack of this or that) it wouldn't be safe with that much hp in some FOOLS hands! Like I said its all about Liability!randall25x wrote:Huh? I have a 754 War Eagle with a 50hp rating on the plate? Fully skinned out, floor etc.. NOT built with a console etc.. The same exact boat with a console is rated for a 90.BR549 wrote: Jeff I agree with you, he did say "fastest new outboard"! But talking about the rating plate. Unless something has changed recently, all manufacturers put a max of 40 hp on any tiller operated boat. By BIA standards you are suppose to have remote steering to get a rating above 40 hp. Same with stick sticking. They will not rate a "stick steer" boat above 40hp regardless the size.
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I notice we seem to have lost the OP, never meant to send the guy packing. Oh well I'll keep on working to read....
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