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egyptian wheat

Postby jdbuckshot » Wed Aug 10, 2005 9:26 am

any of you guys ever planted this stuff? i hunted a field of it in the delta right off the yazoo and shot alot of ducks.

whats your opinions?


EGYPTIAN WHEAT

Egyptian wheat (Shallu or chicken corn) has a misleading name because it a member of the sorghum family that bears large seed heads and is grown extensively for birds of all types and is high in protein and shatters freely when reaching maturity. Dove, quail and all gamebirds are naturally attracted because of the easy access to the seeds. Wheats can be grown in freestanding plantings or mixed with other food plot groupings. Plant at the rate of 10-15 lb. per acre not over ¾ inches deep. This sorghum requires higher rates of nitrogen for the best production of seed heads

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Postby turkeyman » Wed Aug 10, 2005 1:21 pm

dont plant it for doves they Being the GW's will bust your butt. they got a buddy of mine and about 20 guys last year. cost them some money and a year with not hunting.
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Postby jdbuckshot » Wed Aug 10, 2005 3:03 pm

why cant you plant if for doves? if you do it in a normal ag process can you get in trouble? wingman? sb?
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Postby turkeyman » Wed Aug 10, 2005 3:16 pm

its a summer crop planting for doves has to be a winter crop. thats what they were told.
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Postby Wingman » Wed Aug 10, 2005 5:14 pm

its a summer crop planting for doves has to be a winter crop. thats what they were told


What???

If you plant it according to MCES guidelines at the time of year recommended by MCES and at the rates recommended by MCES, there should be no problem.

I'm not gonna rule on somebody else's case, but explain that summer crop/ winter crop statement please.
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Postby Greenhead22 » Wed Aug 10, 2005 5:16 pm

Recommended doesn't mean has to be planted by a certain date. Something is fishy here unless the GW was just out to get someone that day.
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Postby Wingman » Wed Aug 10, 2005 5:26 pm

Recommended doesn't mean has to be planted by a certain date


No, it sure doesn't, GH22. But I'll bet you a box of rocks that somebody planted some egyptian wheat on top of the ground about 2 weeks before dove season.
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Postby Greenhead22 » Wed Aug 10, 2005 5:34 pm

If it was done in a normal ag process then I see no probs with. However, if it was considered 'baiting' it could've been removed 10 days before the season and still hunted.

The interpretations of dove fields are endless....had one gw tells us our field was off limits one season, called the district gw.....said it wasn't a damn thing wrong with it and the other gw got reprimanded or so we were told.
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Postby turkeyman » Wed Aug 10, 2005 7:19 pm

the federal boy told them that that crop was a summer crop. says it grows in the summer months i guess. said that you have to plant a winter crop to dove hunt over. most wheat is a winter crop. thats y uou can hunt over it. if the field is done right. i am going by just what i am told and i saw the tickets. yall can tell me that i dont know what i am talking about and it want hurt my feelings b/c i am on the site to learn most of the time.

thanks.


and you can hunt anything that has already been harvested like corn.
i think that egyption wheat is not common around also
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Postby Greenhead22 » Wed Aug 10, 2005 7:34 pm

Millet and Milo are no different from the Egyptian Wheat.....all 3 are summer crops and used mainly for doves. Either there was something extra added to the wheat or the fed was out to get them for something and came up with some bs excuse to do so and got away with it.
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Postby Wingman » Wed Aug 10, 2005 8:00 pm

GH22, when you gonna quit that sugarcane mill job and sign up with the USFWS?
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Postby Greenhead22 » Wed Aug 10, 2005 8:06 pm

I'm not in the sugarcane mill. :lol:

I'm part of a contractor's office that does mill repairs, big difference. :lol:

USFWS doesn't pay as much nor the perks I have now. :lol:
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Postby Wingman » Wed Aug 10, 2005 9:03 pm

But you know so much about how Special Agents with the FWS do their jobs...heck, I bet they'd promote you to National Advisor. :roll:

Something is fishy here unless the GW was just out to get someone that day.


The interpretations of dove fields are endless


Either there was something extra added to the wheat or the fed was out to get them for something and came up with some bs excuse to do so and got away with it.


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Postby Greenhead22 » Thu Aug 11, 2005 7:34 am

It takes an outlaw to be a great employee of the USFWS. :lol:

Heck, I've seen a federal gw hunting a sanctuary before when he thought no one was around, so I know how some of them work. :lol:

I've seen some gw's pull some bogus stuff on people before, and they didn't want to argue so they just took the tickets and went on. That's like that hotshot gw from a few yrs ago, gonna write everybody in the field a ticket for hunting over bait........called his boss to the field....."nothing's wrong with it." That guy was out to get somebody that day and chose us......luckily we knew all the facets of the law and proved him wrong.
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Postby turkeyman » Thu Aug 11, 2005 8:08 am

how do you get that wheat is a summer crop. wheat is grown in the winter and harvested before the summer.
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